Is Car Exhaust More Dangerous Than Second-Hand Smoke...  

Well I'll be honest I hate when people smoke around me. I can't breathe & then my hair & clothes smell like smoke & I hate that smell. BUT although I am all for banning smoke in public places, to tell someone that they can't smoke in their own apartment is utterly rediculious. That woman has rights too. It is after her HER apartment. She pays rent just like they do. Those people are being rediculious & I hope that they didn't win when they sued that woman.

My argument entirely, my friend. I know somebody who took their own life with car exhaust emissions, and health authorities have already proven that these emissions are the biggest cause of asthma. Not only that, aeroplanes release their extra fuel before going in to land, normally over the sea, but to my mind, that's not always possible and anyway, causes the same problems... it is thought that aeroplane fuel causes some cancers.

It's all a big hype, at least in this country, to keep up with the EEC guidelines, which are basically lain down by the French, one of the biggest wine drinking countries in the World. So, go figure!

Brightest Blessings, my friend, and thank you for bringing this up. I've tried and failed many times before because there is so much single mindedness amongst some of the people in our communities.

I think the second hand smoke thing is all a ploy...I grew up around second hand smoke my whole life - I'm healthy. So are my brothers and even my parents. My dad survived a heart attack, but I doubt it's from smoking - so did his mom & half his family. I think people forget about looking at genetics and other issues. The people I know that have cancer & even the ones that died from cancer never smoked a day in their life.

Sure some people are deathly allergic to it, and that's a different cause for concern, but for most people it's not going to hurt them. They think it will, they'll pull out long lists of why it's so bad for you and everything...but I am not convinced. I wouldn't say smoking is good for you, I wouldn't encourage anyone to start smoking, but I think you are right with the car exhaust example - there are just as many other things worse for us!

I know what you mean. I'm a smoker as well; have been trying to stop but it's hard. It's the old scenario of 'money'...The carmakers/oil and gas companies wouldn't make as much money if we demanded a cleaner environment. Everyone talks about cleaning up the atmosphere, etc. but when it comes to losing out on all the money they're making from poisoning us, they don't want to do it.

It's the same with all the foods we purchase from the store with all the chemicals and poisons we ingest and all the vaccines that have ammonia, mercury, etc., that's going into our's as well as our children's bodies.

It will never end...there's nothing we as a people can do because we will never have the influence or monies these major companies have to buy-off the government.

You do have a good point about car exhaust. The car companies have had to clear up their exhaust fumes and the regulations are getting tighter by the year. So something is being done to clean up those exhaust fumes.

I don’t want people blowing smoke in my face or around my child. I had a grandfather that died from emphysema from smoking and my grandmother almost had congestive heart failure for the same reason. For me that is enough reason to not want people smoking around me or my child on a regular basis. I see no reason to not ban smoking around you kids. As far as smoking goes, if you want to do it in your home, fine. As long as it doesn’t come into mine (we have had this problem with some apartments with our neighbors who smoke, we moved).

That is exactly my thought as well on this. You asked for some links and I actually have some for you:

This one is about how car exhaust has been linked to cancer in kids: http://www.lifescript.com...

This one talks about the dangers of car exhaust: http://www.abc.net.au/wor...


I think you'll find both of these interesting. I've pointed out many times that smoking has been around for centuries but it has only been in the last century that the problems with smoking have been on a rise. Could it be it's not smoking that is to blame but something else that has become popular in the last century like cars. Also supposedly the number of smokers is down but the problems are continuing to rise. That should indicate that smoking isn't the cause.


As to the bit about child abuse. To me that is total asinine behavior. They don't arrest people and charge them with abuse for wearing perfume around kids which also have carcinogens in them and can cause asthma problems. They don't charge parents for having their children use fluoride which is a poison to the body. Kids have died from it and yet the government encourages us to use it. You can read about some of it here (Just do a search on dangers of fluoride and you'll get a bunch):

http://www.mbschachter.co...
http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/fluoride.htm
http://www.ecomall.com/greenshopping/fluoride.htm

So why with the evidence that there are other causes do they insist it has to be smoking? Could it be because they don't want to give up the things they like but think others should give up what they enjoy?

I do also want to comment on that lawsuit. That should be thrown out. That is a set of parents wanting to point the finger and make some quick bucks. They figure with how the press is so "anti-smoking" that the press will side with them and thus put pressure on the courts to then give way. Let's face it we've seen the press do that far too often lately with cases. It shouldn't go to court. The fact that the woman smoked in her own apartment is within her rights and I seriously doubt it had anything to do with the child's illness.

I agree with you about the second hand smoke and the car exhaust. I do know if you see a car with smoke coming out of their tail pipe you can report them and we have free exhaust checks ever so often for those who want to drive by the machine and test their car or truck.
As for the woman in the apartment, I saw about this on television the other night. There is no way that her smoke traveled way down the hall to where this lawyer lived. This lady has done so many things to her apartment so smoke won't seep out anyway and she has tried to stop smoking. She was living there way before that lawyer and her family moved in also.
I don't agree with the law saying it is child abuse to smoke in the car with children in there. I smoked with my kids in my car and we always rolled windows down.
I do think that smokers as well as non smokers have rights but come on people, until you make my house and or car payments let me do as I please.

It is well known that pollution from car fumes causes a lot of health problems like asthma and it is dangerous for anyone with breathing difficulties.

Car fumes are also putting us all at risk because of the contribution they make towards climate change and damage to the environment. That is why alternative sources of fuel are being sought and some governments are encouraging the use of biofuels, though these also contribute to global warming.

I don't drive and I walk a lot so I always try to avoid areas where there is heavy traffic, in the same way I try to avoid inhaling other people's tobacco smoke.

I did hafe a news paper form our local Indian smoke shop that says 2nd hand smoke is not really a killer as they would make you beleive it is wish I scould find it for it had a YRL to go to to look into it.
Yup there is more toxins in the air other than cig. smoke
And people are just trying to make other cowtoe to their way of thinking.

I, too, was raised around smokers. Both of my parents smoked. Dad quit in his fifties, but mom never was able to do it. I have suffered absolutely no ill effects and have smoked more than 40 years now. My brother never did smoke and he is allergic to every airborne allergen on the planet. Go figure.
Non smokers started pushing us out of everyplace in the 80's and are still not happy. I firmly believe that there is much more danger in the pollution we breathe, food we eat, and the water we drink than in second hand smoke. If a person has a propensity to develop deadly respiratory diseases smoke will certainly affect them, but if not then it's not likely to happen. Thank goodness I am not one of the genetically "at risk" group.
You know what really irritates me are the government sanctions on smokers that are now the trends. Education on the dangers is fine, but if the government spent less money on enforcing all the new non-smoking legislation and put that money into Social Security and Medicare those programs might not be going bankrupt. Just my opinion.