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myLot reputation of 89/100. dodoguy (794)   ranked 249 out of 774 in pets 4 years ago

Hello Fellow Insectologists,

Have any of you had the joy of managing an ant-farm?

That's a specialized insectarium for raising a captive colony of ants, hopefully with a queen or two to keep the colony viable.

They used to sell them in the big department & toy stores years ago here in Australia.

They were really just a toy, but well enough constructed to do the job. Consisted of just a couple of rigid sheets of clear plastic, and the necessary ends, top and bottom to hold them in place.

You'd fill the gap between the two clear plastic panes with coarse sand, toss in your specimens and let them go to town. They'd get to work building little tunnels and stuff, just like they would underground out in the garden - but it was all on display for you to see.

I was never too successful with mine, because I was never successful in getting a queen ant to start up a colony or to keep one going.

But just plain worker ants were sufficiently well-programmed to do a sterling job of building a nest anyway, even without a queen. And they seemed to live for a couple of weeks if you kept them supplied with bits of food and sugar and a few drops of water and stuff.

Very important to keep the whole thing securely capped, though - otherwise the little buggers would be out and about and all over your house!

Just bye the bye, have you ever wondered why ants look a lot like little wasps, without the wings?

That's because they allegedly ARE wasps - at least, a more communally evolved version of those otherwise relatively big, nasty, primitive beasts that build paper nests which hang from the rafters (and wasps are carnivorous - so keep tha barbecue steak hidden from the wasps as well as the ants!).

The thing about ants which really amazes me (and irritates me no end, too) is that they have this close symbiosis with other critters like aphids, where the aphids suck the life out of your veges but also give off sweet liquid which the ants like to eat...

SO the ants actually raise herds of these little beasts inside the ant nest, carry the little mongrels out onto the pastures (ie, your veges) and actively defend them from attack by other predators (such as spiders and parasitic wasps).

You'd have to wonder how such intricate and seemingly intelligent patterns of behavior could have developed. It's apparently not learned - the ants do it without having to be instructed on the mater.

I just wish I could find some little Rambo bug that is programmed to on a rampage, with hand grenades and flame thrower in hand, through any herd of aphids that it can find.

Wishful thinking, I guess.

But getting back to the ant-farms - have any of you had the pleasure? Maybe in your school science class, or even just at home in the basement?

 

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tags:  aphids, ants, captive, mature content, wasps
 
1. myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15689)   4 years ago

I love your Rambo Ant idea, it's always nice to start the day with a laugh!

We had one of those when my brother and I were young and our ants lived about a month. It was fascinating and we loved to watch them! I didn't remember that about the aphids, I just sprayed my aphid-infested snowball bush and like a dummy wondered by there were so many ants around the bush!

When I was about 8, we lived in a big old house and there were spiders that spun webs on the steps where they met the porch. I named them, watched them, and fed them ants! Learned a lot about spiders that way.


myLot reputation of 89/100. dodoguy (794)   ranked 249 out of 774 in pets  4 years ago

Hi dragon54u,

That stuff about the spiders sends shivers up my spine!

Of all the creatures that I know of, noting creeps me out like spiders.

Not just any spiders, mind you, but most of them.

The big black house spiders are the worst of the lot - them and Funnel Webs, and Mouse Spiders, and Trapdoors. They all look pretty similar, and are all equally horrible. I imagine there's probably analogous monsters lurking in the deeper pits of Hell.

The ones that I don't have any problems with are Daddy Long Legs (they look just way too goofy to be scary) and Jumping Spiders. I love Jumping Spiders - those little fellows are very entertaining to watch, because they display an astounding level of intelligence for something that, by common thinking, shouldn't even be capable of any intelligent thought!

The whole top of the Jumping Spider's head is one big eye, and you can see quite clearly how they look around their surroundings and decide what they're going to do next. And what they do next is sometimes remarkable for the planning and strategy that they display.

I once had a Jumping Spider on my desk (don't know how he got there, must have hopped in from somewhere) who was intensely interested in the mouse pointer on my video monitor. You could see him moving his little head back and forth from the desk, watching the mouse pointer move around.

And then, he did what I thought was an amazing thing for a little spider.

He stopped looking at the mouse, and proceeded to look around the desktop, mostly around the monitor and it's stand.

Then, this little Jumping Spider ambled over under the monitor several feet away, climbed up onto the stand, and crawled all the way around under the monitor and up onto the video display in front.

And then he went chasing the mouse pointer all over the screen!

They are smart - really smart - for a spider, and I just think they're cute.

They're also extremely accurate when they jump. I saw one many years ago in the school playground. He fixed his attention on a fly which had landed on a blade of grass about a foot away from him. In one jump, he nabbed the fly!

You know how hard it is to catch a fly with your hand? Put it in the context of this little fellow, who is only the same size as the fly, jumping a distance of what would be equivalent to a football field for one of us, to catch the fly at the top of a big blade of grass.

Did I mention I like Jumping Spiders?

But keep the rest away from me.

I pity those poor ants - aphids or not, being eaten by a spider is a cruel way to die.


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15689)  4 years ago

Yes, being a spider's dinner is cruel and I'm sorry I did it. If I'd listened to my Grandpa I wouldn't have done it!!!

My neighbor her in Ohio told me that the jumping spider was poisonous but I'm prone to putting that towards the general hatred of spiders. Por misunderstood things!!

And Daddy long legs are the most poisonous in the world, I've read, but their mouths are too little to effect we humans!

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2. myLot reputation of 97/100. AmbiePam (20775)   4 years ago

I guess you could say I had an ant farm. Only I didn't let them live with me voluntarily, and it wasn't my idea for them to stick around. I had the unfortunate chance of living on a lot in a fifth wheel years ago that was apparently over a bunch of ant colonies. I really wish the prior owner had warned me. It was very disheartening to come home one day and find they had invaded my kitchen, along with my food.


myLot reputation of 89/100. dodoguy (794)   ranked 249 out of 774 in pets  4 years ago

Hi Spookybutt,

I can relate to how you feel with ants in the larder.

It can be so frustrating, because once they get their foot in the door, it's very hard to get them back out of the place.

I've had occasional problems with tiny ants nesting in the walls or even on the carpet in plain view! In the latter case, the vacuum cleaner fixed the problem (mainly because I also sucked up the Queen, which basically doomed the colony) but when they're in the walls, the best you can hope for is to "train" them to look outdoors for their food rather than have them foraging through your house instead.

I've found that methylated spirits is a nice, clean way to "train" them. They really don't like the stuff, it kills them on contact, and also messes up their trails so more don't come in by the same route. So a spray bottle filled with metho is very handy for ant problems - and it's also cheap and relatively non-toxic.

Once they're in the food, though, that can be a bummer.

Unless one likes chocolate coated ants - but that's probably an acquired taste.


myLot reputation of 97/100. AmbiePam (20775)  4 years ago

You know if I still lived in that awful fifth wheel I might try those chocolate covered ants. Get them back for eating my food.

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3. myLot reputation of 87/100. zigzagbuddha (1845)   4 years ago

Hehehe... I never did but my cousins had a huge one. They were fascinating to watch.

My son just recently told me about 'Slave-Maker Ants', who raid other ant colonies for their pupae and larvae which they take back to their own colony and raise them as slaves.

There was an article written in 1981 called 'Why There are no Ant Slave Rebellions'. Hehehe, I'm afraid that would be some pretty dry reading.


myLot reputation of 89/100. dodoguy (794)   ranked 249 out of 774 in pets  4 years ago

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