Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden.....
By Sparks
@sparkofinsanity (20471)
Regina, Saskatchewan
July 5, 2008 10:51pm CST
I've been doing a lot of reading of all kinds lately.
It's been keeping me MIA from the lot too.
Anyway, my reading material has been rather eclectic and I've been taking a lot of notes for articles and such I want to right.
Tonight I was going over some of those notes in one particular area, and a question occured to me that I thought I'd share with all of you.
Now I want your gut response. I want to know what comes to your mind when you read the question. Serious, silly, thoughtful or sarcastic, I don't care. Just tell me what comes to mind, ok?
Here's the question:
Why did God create Adam and Eve as ADULTS? Remember, he was a rather hands on type of guy in those days and could have cared for them, and the first man and woman had dominion over the animals of the earth, so had nothing to fear from them. So why were they created as adults, rather than teens of child bearing ability?
Being me, I already have the answer of course, but give me your best shot anyway............GO!
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17 responses
@fwidman (11514)
• United States
6 Jul 08
Oh, that's a good one, Being me, I already have the answer of course,
Even God, in all His wisdom had more sense than to create teenagers. He wanted the world to survive, not be destroyed!
Actually I have no clue, but I gave you what popped into my little pea brain. Glad you stopped reading and came back here 
Even God, in all His wisdom had more sense than to create teenagers. He wanted the world to survive, not be destroyed!
Actually I have no clue, but I gave you what popped into my little pea brain. Glad you stopped reading and came back here 
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@sparkofinsanity (20471)
• Regina, Saskatchewan
6 Jul 08
Well done fwidman! You are very very close to the answer. Not spot on yet, but very close! LOL Trust a man to be the first to come within a stone's throw distance of the answer! LOL Thanks so much for the giggle of appreciation!
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@Rosekitty (19368)
• San Marcos, Texas
6 Jul 08
Fwidman..not all teens are reckless...I at 5 was doing more things around the house than most people..at 10 had a job babysitting..at 14 took care of my younger sibs, my father and the household chores,cook and still went to school with a b average..so even though its funny..its how you were raised and the maturity about you..at 18 I was married and later had 5 children who are very good ones.
Sparky..this is for you...
So the story really is about Adam and Eve..but i don't feel Eve did anything wrong..and if she was 12 or 18 or what..it doesn't say in the Bible they had children right away after this so called episode..will write in my own post about this..so go on further in your discussion to see me
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@sparkofinsanity (20471)
• Regina, Saskatchewan
6 Jul 08
"deliquents vandalizing the garden"...........good point. But HOW would they vandalize the garden?
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@Angelwhispers (8978)
• United States
6 Jul 08
Can you see God changing diapers? I would imagine that is why they sure were not babies.... I have always pictured Adam and Eve young people 18 19 20. But sparks age and time plays no part in how I think of what stage of life The first man and woman was born in. Biblical people lived hundreds of years.
Then of course there is the fact that the bible states that God created Man in his own image, Eve being made from Adams Rib would take on his age, I would not think of God in age or time or imagine him a teenager.
Did Adam and Eve have belly buttons? I would think not as that would imply a birth but then would they have indeed been the perfect humans? I have read many articles and opinions on this question myself Sparks and if The first parents had belly buttons that that would make one believe that God the father was deceitful and the bible tells us that God is not the author of lies...They had no mother so could not have had a belly button :)))
I think these questions are impossible to answer given how vague the creation story is. Who did Cain and Able marry? Had to have been sisters right? Yet God condemns incest just a short time later. I am not saying that the bible is wrong just that there is not enough information give in the old testament to fully answer certain questions with out a doubt.
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@Angelwhispers (8978)
• United States
6 Jul 08
Sparky I am quite anxious to read your take on this :))) No theories mind you I want chapter and verse :)))) I have so misssssssssssssssedddddddddddddd you!
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@Angelwhispers (8978)
• United States
6 Jul 08
Hi there McButtero, yes that is the same theory I have always been taught. But again its a theory and one interjected by man. So much time we do not have account of and since becoming an adult and wanting to learn truth, and not childhood Sunday school stories I have come to the conclusion that we can not interject what we do not understand or do not have record of. It changes real principles.
Another point I would like to add, is that the translations of the bible we have today are misconstrued in many places and the real meaning of words are not what the original writings say. Then again we do not really know what the very first writings held as they are so long gone, the original books were copied one after the other by scribes who often made mistakes, or interpreted words to meet certian other agendas.
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@sparkofinsanity (20471)
• Regina, Saskatchewan
6 Jul 08
I'd like to know how God came up with the whole concept of conception through to birth, for animals and humans. I rather think His hatching from an egg process is the most efficient and painless! lol
Good thoughts there Angel and makes you realize that God really has a lot to answer for when we finally get the chance to 'see' Him.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
6 Jul 08
Hmmmm. Well, I suppose because back in those days, there was really no 'adolescence' period. Even as late as the depression era (1920ish), people were children (and should be seen and not heard) and then around 12 or 13 they were suddenly adults with all the responsibility of an adult piled on them. Just going back a few decades from there, people only lived to be mid 30s at the oldest, so there really was no time to insert that whole slice of 'teenhood'. I find it interesting too how many people will make nasty comments about teen parents yet Joseph and Mary (Jesus' parents) were little more than children themselves, probably estimated to be around 12 and 13 when he was born.
I may have to go back on this though because didn't they live hundreds of years in the bible? Now I'm not sure. This makes little sense if they did because the life spans were so short in the 1800s and life expectancy has only increased back up to the 70s and 80s recently with better healthcare and knowledge of disease and conditions and our bodies, and technology to extend life. So many things that do not make sense!
Teens know less and their brains are not actually finished, so perhaps he created adults so he would not have to answer 'are we there yet' and 'are you sure we're doing this right?' and 'WHATEVER DAD' 39485758 times before they had populated the earth. =D
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@olivebranch56 (910)
• United States
7 Jul 08
I think the age people live decreased because people stopped taking care of themselves. In biblical times, people tried to keep their bodies and minds purified Then more and more loose living and sin spread, thus sexually transmitted disease, also like in the 1800's disease like consumption, measles and others took a lot of children. Now I am rambling, getting sleepy, better stop before I stick foot in mouth, LOL.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
6 Jul 08
Right, the only confirmed or known case of immaculate conception, unless you don't believe anything in the bible happened. What I mean by that though is that was the typical age, it's not like God looked around and decided to cripple Mary by making her pregnant. I am sure that most of the other couples having babies were the same general age, it was not out of the norm. At least I don't recall reading anything in there about 'ooooh, a CHILD is pregnant' and 'let's go stone her parents for allowing this to happen' or 'we better build an abortion clinic', you know, things that might not be far off base today when you think about fanatics and what they spout.
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@steeltownfan5828 (252)
• United States
6 Jul 08
But Joseph and Mary were a special case. Today there aren't teen mothers without actually, erm...,y'know....
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@mclendon (308)
• United States
6 Jul 08
My first thought is... how do you know they weren't teens? I don't remember the Bible indicating how old they were or how mature when they were created. Maybe this is a joke or a riddle.
My next thought is that I think the creation story is true, but not necessarily an exact account of the beginning of the earth and humanity. In the interest of making it understandable to everyone and not too complicated and detailed, it is an allegory of basically what God did and intended and what was/is important to the mind and spirit of God.

@Angelwhispers (8978)
• United States
6 Jul 08
I have heard that theory all of my life as well. McButtero I agree it does not have a sound biblical base.
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@steeltownfan5828 (252)
• United States
6 Jul 08
We know that Adam was 130 at the time of Seth's birth, and since at that point of the Bible men were generally fairly old (not really by their standards, but still) at the time of the birth(s) of children. So, we can guess that Cain was fairly old when Enoch was born, meaning that Adam would have had to be fairly young at the time of Cain's birth.
That, or it was the other way around, and Cain was fairly young when Enoch was born. Either way.
None of which answers your question, but it was the first thing I thought of, although I did have to look up Adam's age at the time of Seth's birth. I am curious as to the answer, though.

@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
6 Jul 08
I still have no clue why they lived to be 900 years old that long ago and now with all our technology etc people die at 85. Of course this is probably something that won't become clear until after we move on to another life, if it gets answered at all.
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@olivemai (4738)
• United States
7 Jul 08
Well, it is a far stretch, but what I have learned is that the years changed! A year was counted differently, I think it was June and July that were added, making a ten month calendar year a twelve month calendar year! So, try multiplying the number of years in your age by ten and then compare it to the number you get when multiplying by twelve! That is the difference in ages of someone in the old calendar and the new calendar! Say you are considered twenty years old in the new calendar, that would be two hundred and forty months old! In the old calendar, that same person would only be only two hundred months old! Reverse it, and you see that a person who was two hundred and forty months old was not considered to be twenty, but was considered to be twenty-four years of age!
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
6 Jul 08
I am not to sure Spark I mean come on this is hard for me
I will give it a shot but I am sure it will not be right or make sense I guess that then the point was made that you only have Children as Adults and not as Children, as a Teenager is still a Child really if you think about it, as the Years went by it just got to the Point where People started having Children younger and younger
Hugs
@mummymo (23706)
•
6 Jul 08
LOL Trust you to rush our thought spark! Ok My gut reaction is that in those days Teens WERE classed as adults and in some cultures they still are! That is probably way off base but I know that it is a fact anyway! Great ot see you spark darling! Hugs xxx
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
6 Jul 08
Spark - you can come up with the damnest discussions that makes us scratch our heads!! LMBO!! All I can say is "Who the hell knows?!" LMBO!!
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@darkangel079 (1488)
• United States
6 Jul 08
If you were a Creator that made a life form and knowing psychology how both children think and adults think -- which ones have a better mind to pick up things and the source of intelligence?
Think of the infants that are born their minds are not fast to expand things or electrically respond to things fast. Think of children or of teens most of which their minds consume into amusement and another thing it would have been a faster way to learn things but of course on their own -- And most children can't develop maturity in that type of age.
Things were created by wisdom and not just out of the blue moon. If the artist is going to paint a delightful picture he is going to make sure that painting is perfect and to give awe to his eyes and those for people to see.
So then Adam and Eve were created as adults and what God spoke to them they were quick to absurb and understand what God taught. Of course both have destroyed their spritual aspects from their own free will which lead them to discover what is called human nature.
So the conclusion is based on understanding the behavior difference of an infant, child, teen and adult. Adam & Eve weren't alone on this since God their Creator taught them well with the wisdom he gave both of them.
@Rosekitty (19368)
• San Marcos, Texas
6 Jul 08
Ok..I know this sounds serious and didn't mean it to be..LOL..I just know back then children weren't like they are now and felt exceptions like the way i was raised and still believe, had a right to be heard that not all teens are reckless..
So God made them and then supposedly told them not to eat of a tree..well you can argue that since teens can be saying.."Don't tell me what to do" could clarify that indeed they were teens then since they did it anyway!
I matured at 9 1/12 and could have had a child if i was that inclined..mentally I was stable but to have one then..I don't know..I did raise my sibs and had alot of children..so hmmm
But I doubt my parents would have helped since i did most of the work anyway..but i feel they(A and E)had children as young as 18...But I don't feel it happened as soon after the tree episode as many may feel..ok enough of this.now tel me your logic?
Missed you Sparky..I'vebeen reading alot more too
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@blackmantra_x (2732)
• Philippines
6 Jul 08
good day. For me basically when they're created, they were chronologically infant. Even when they were created as adults the equation of creation is birth, so they were infants in term of chronological age and adult in term of chronological form. I would guess that God created them in the form of adults, to have an understanding of an adult and ultimately free will. Imagine if they were in toddler or in teens form they will need guidance and that was like obliterating free will. Just my one cent.
@paroloza (140)
• United States
6 Jul 08
Well, perhaps my answer is too serious, but here it goes:
The Adam and Eve story is a narration used by the Hebrew authors about 3500 years ago. It was their way to explain the creation of nature and men, and why, inspite of God being perfect and good, the world is a very rotten place and men so very rotten too.
According to this story, the first human being's fault -the original sin- is responsible for this. But responsibility does not go with children but with adults. So that's why the Hebrew myth from the start deals with adult man and woman.
One must not believe in the literal truth of the story in order to recognize and believe its spiritual truth.
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@KrauseHome (36445)
• United States
6 Jul 08
Interesting thoughts and topic here, and I am sure you are not the only one who has ever wondered about something like this and wanted to discuss it. After I post my thoughts I will read what others have said as well.
For me, I feel that the reason Jesus created Adam and Eve as adults, so that in the Garden of Eden they would be old enough and mature enough to know right from wrong, and be able to make a choice on whether to eat the forbidden fruit or not, and be able to deal with, and understand the consequences they are given there of.
If they would have been younger, they might not have been prepared enough to accept the consequences, and then things would not have worked out like they did. And since Jesus was the one in control of the Creation and what was to happen in people's lives from there it happened just like it was supposed too, and so we have something to learn from and base our lives and knowledge on as well. Just my thoughts.
@olivebranch56 (910)
• United States
7 Jul 08
One more thing, just as everything in the life of Jesus was not recorded, or anyone else in the bible for that matter, I think it may be the same for the Adam and Eve saga. It doesn't say anywhere that I have read, that God stopped creating people when he finished A&E. I think he may have created at least one more couples, possibly more, to keep from having incest, and there fore deformed kiddos. I think A&E were mentioned because they were the first, the blueprint you might say.
@olivebranch56 (910)
• United States
7 Jul 08
Wow Sparks that is such a deep question. I am a Christian, and have been for a long time, and I have never even heard a discussion on this. I have a couple of ideas, don't know if any of them are right or not but here goes anyway.
1. God created them to worship and praise Him, but He wanted them to have free will. Now if He had created them as small children, it would not have been free will exactly that made them love Him, it would have been like our children, they learn to love us from example, and heck not even that sometimes, it is ingrained in us to love our parents. To get perfect love and praise from them as adults it had to be from the heart, not learned.
2. They were also created to populate the earth, they could do so faster being adults, than waiting until they grew from children.
3. If they had been created as children, they may have grown up feeling more like brother and sister, than lovers. Of course, if indeed they were the only two people on earth, their offspring mated with each other.
Like I said, deep subject!
I do hope you are going to share your opinion. Hugs Marilyn















