What is the "Age of consent" where you live?

I can only wish at this point that I don't have to worry about it. Unfortuantly I do have to worry about it and after finding out about her "activity" it is a great concern for me. I am WAY too young to be a grandmother.

On that, I can only agree and you have my sympathies. There really should be some sort of written test you have to pass to become pregnant, instead of just the practical.

I would agree with that wholeheartedly, I wish there was something like that, unfortuantly most of these girls want to get preg to get out of the house at an earlier and earlier age. Its really sad that it has come down to that in this day and age.

I wouldn't even say it's this day and age, to be honest; teen pregnancy rates have increased somewhat, but this sort of thing has been going on for as long as Mankind has known where babies comes from, and probably longer than that. It's just that until the last few decades, such scandalous things weren't something discussed in polite society; such 'indiscretions' were quietly swept under the carpet.

I bet you would make a very pretty grandmother though hehe. I knwo what you mean though that would really suck.

That it would Darkjedi hehee. And you are right Wolf it was a disgrace and swept under the carpet, now its like a status symbol to some of these girls to have a baby. When Kat was in 8th grade there were 3 preg grils in the same class with her. its scary!!

Nope I still have to deal with her until she is at least 17. She can legally move out of the house at 17. But when she turns 16 I still have to deal with her crap for another year and I can't really do anything about it. Thats really sad isn't it? I can be held responsible for her behavior yet I can't do anything to stop it.

That makes no sense at all! If they are of the age of consent you should be able to let them go live as "adults" then.

You would think so. I can't legally throw her out of my house till she is 17, but she can go out and do whatever she wants to and i have no real recourse. Its really sad the way things have gotten for parents.

Yep, it is rather sad Teenagers...can't live with 'em and ya can't shoot 'em...

Can't lock them in a big cage either, I already looked into that one.

Well...CRAP!

Yeha tell me about it and here I had already planned on buying the cage. And had planed on how to decorate it.

Now, why does this not shock me? Sell anything good in that online shop of yours? Like a ball and gag kind of thing/ LOL

Yeha but I can't use it on her. I asked about that too. They won't let me do nothing!

They sure put up a lot of roadblocks, don't they? Fussy law people you got there

Yeah tell me about it!! I will just have to have the squirrels surround her and try to keep her in line. They didn't say anything about using trained squirrels!!!

That should work! Is either that or steal all her clothing so she cannot go anywhere LOL

I do that she will just run out naked. You don't understand that she feels no shame at all what so ever. She doesn't care and will do what she feels neccessary to justify herself, BTW did you get my message?

Just answered the message:)

It is but unfortunatly thats the way people are. Being a parent is not at all easy anymore these days. I wish it were more like where you are in terms that it seems that most people do wait till their wedding night.

Thanks for the best response mark...

I had assumed it was 18 across the country. Apperently I was WRONG really really WRONG. I am not often wrong but man this was a big error. I wish there was something I could do at this point but my hands are tied.

Thank you and yeah I can't believe it either!! Its crazy that I cna be held responsible for her actions, yet I can't dicipline her. I have no recourse in what she does but I am responsible for her behavior. Makes you wonder whats going on in this country doens't it?

I wish I had the normal teenage problems. It took all I could do the other day when there was a woman in the store that was complaining about the terrible twos not to walk over to her and say enjoy it while you can. She was saying she wished she never had kids if she knew it was going to be like that. And here I am dealing with all of this. I wanted to slap the woman.

I Sweetheart, some People just do not appreciate their Children, then there is People like you that have to deal with a situation like that
I really wish I could help you Sweetie, but i do not know what to suggest at all
But please remember I am always here for you, I know that does not sort your Problem and fear but I am really stuck on what to suggest
Big Hugs

Thank you hun for the hugs and support, thats really honestly all I need right now just to know that I have my friends I can talk to even if we can't find a solution to the problem at hand. You have no idea how much it has comforted me knowing that I have my friends here for me.

I think I do Sweetie
Love and Hugs your Way

Thank you sweetheart love and hugs back to you. and I do hope that you are getting better!! I am so Sorry I didn't think to ask you how you were doing lately sweetie.

Do not worry about that I am ok still the same my recovery is slow but I am ok and still resting a lot
Love you Sweet

I am glad you are ok hun, I am still praying for a speedy recovery for you and hope that you get better soon. I love you too sweetie!!

Well hun I think you can see how I have been lately lol. It's definatly been a trial for me lately. Iam thankful for my friends and am glad to include you as one of them:). Don't worry about not catching up with me, I know we will get back to it! I am thankful for your friendship! I have been trying and trying to get her on the right path but I don't think there is much hope anymore. I hope that the court system will be able to find a solution with her.

I know now! I responded to this and then next minute I am reading the latest news, I can honestly say that I am still shocked and it takes a lot to shock me. You can certainly count on me being a friend, I am not full of words of wisdom, I am not full of useful advice, mainly because I dont take advice myself, but if you need to unload your troubles I have 2 ears to listen to you with.

All I do know, is that you can only try your best, and if that is not enough or good enough then she has to be left to get on with it on her own. Shes at that age now where she thinks she knows it all and that no one should be able to tell her what to do. Fair enough, as soon as she is old enough,if she has not changed put her out in the big world ALONE. See how far she gets before she realises how much her Mum loved her. I remember it well, it was scary, cold and lonely.

It sacry isn't it? I already planned on when she turned 17 letting her find out what the world is really like. Not that it will do a lot of good at this point, but maybe she will finally see what it is that I have been trying to protect her from. I won't let her come crawling back after all of this though I will tell you that much.

It is scary, I was out in the world on my own at 17 because I thought I knew it all and I ended up in so much trouble it was unreal, my parents were there for me but I had never raised a hand to my Mum. Gosh I would not have dared, she would have flattened me! I am still wary of her now LOL

One day she will realise exactly what she has done, but until then..... and dont let her come crawling back, let her tough it out on her own. In the long run it may make her a better woman.

Thats what Iam hoping for then of course I have to accept the fact the she could easily go the other way also. But iam trying to accept the fact that I have done everyting that I can and she is now going to have to face her own responsiblity in all of this as well.

Yes she could but you have to let her, and I know that it is hard but she has to learn for herself now, she made that choice the moment she raised her hand and hit you. Whats the saying? "Dont bite the hand that feeds you" well she did not just bite, she well and truly tore the thing off.

You also do not need to beat yourself up in thinking you could have done more, I am certain you have done everything you can for your daughter, she has to accept her part in it. Until she can stand up and say "Mum, I was wrong, really wrong" then she will not see it. I know it is hard not to blame yourself, we all do it but once children reach a certain age and develop their own minds it is out of our control.

Oh i know hun, its just really really hard not to wonder what Idid so wrong as a parent. unfortuantly the way I am I can't just let it go. It has been so difficult to get through to her all her life that this is just one more thing for me to deal with. I just went back to work for multiple reasons but one of them was to get away from her. I can't take all of this anymore.

I know, sometimes it is easy for others on the outside to say "well this is what you should do, or this is what I would do" reality is when it actually happens to us we do a totally different thing. I think that if she were my daughter I would still want to get her on the right path, still have that faith in her that it will be OK. I think going back to work is a good idea, I think that the time away from her will do you all the good.xx

Well it has helped so far, we don't fight near as much. She still gets nasty, but its a bit easier for me to deal with. I can at least look foward to going to work to be away from her. I know that I can go away from her for a little while. And my boss has been great about everything, she knows some of what I am going through and has told me that if I needed more hours to let her know and she will try and fit me into one of her stores.


BTW I love the new icon!!

Hello! I have missed our little conversations, seems like ages since we spoke last! Glad to hear that things are a little better for you and that you are enjoying work and getting out of the house some more, it is definately the best thing for the both of you. Time away does wonders.

I have hardly seen my son in the last 2 weeks he has been going and spending time in a garage in the hopes that he will get a job and so he has been out all day everyday. Plus he works for my Mum and she has given him extra hours, he has also been staying with her and my Dad since last friday so it has been heaven.

But I am missing him now, it was bliss at first because the house has been so quiet and calm and happy but I do miss him!!

Glad you like my new avatar!! Hope things carry on getting better for you xxx

I have missed our chats also! I am going to try to have more time online when I can now. I worked from 1-11:15 tonight at 2 different stores and I was only supposed to work one store till 8 pm lol. I will check everything when I can and if you want to check out my blog also it is http://erilyn.blogono.com I am going to try to keep that updated everyday at least if I can. You can also email me anytime at erilyn26@yahoo.com:). I am going to like I said try to be around as much as possible!!

I have wrote your blog and email address down so I will keep in touch with you one way or another!

Sweet!! I may not get to check it everyday any more, but I will check it as often as I can!! I am doing my best to keep everything updated the best way I can and such lol. I just got off work, so excuse me if I am not coherent!! lol. Had a REALLY REALLY busy day today!!

Same here hun on all 3 counts apperantly. Kinda scary isn't it?

It is really, considering that kids are a lot "older for their" age now anyway so they're more likely to, erm, go for it as soon as it's legal, if not before

I can only wish it was like that here. Unfortuantly it isn't and I have a lot more to deal with until she leaves.

Oh No dear. I think both are extreme cases. Too much of love and freedom on one side and total monitaring on the otherside!

I can see your point, at this point my daughter is under complete monitoring. She can't even take the trash out without supervision. It would be nice if there was a good medium that would work.