Food Stamps and the people that use them

United States
July 12, 2008 5:37pm CST
I work for Wal Mart and here in South Dakota, and on the 10th of every month, we have people coming in at midnite to buy groceries with their food stamps or EBT cards. I don't have a problem with people who need the help to buy the food for their families but I do have a problem with those people who abuse the system. For example, last Wednesday night was the 10th and we got slammed with those coming in to buy food on their EBT Cards. My co worker and I were noticing that many of the items bought were junk food, (chips, pop, candy and anything non nutritional) and also many high end meat items such as beef briskets for $25 a piece-meats that we as working people cannot afford but these people can because we as tax payers pay for them to buy these expensive meats. It just really burns me up how people can take advantage of the system. I was on food stamps years ago but I just bought the basics, nothing expensive and used coupons. Then if someone didn't have enough money on the card, they would put the perishables to the side, we have to throw the perishables away if they are left out. I wish the laws would be a little stricter for the food stamps-just buy the nutritional foods, limit the junk food purchase and limit the costs of the high end meats. Many of the people have had two or more shopping carts full of groceries but inside the bags, there was not a whole lot of nutritious food. Then these same people would buy other things such as electronics and whip out a credit card. I thought food stamps and government assistance programs were for those that seriously need the extra help.Any comments?
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@lisan23 (442)
• United States
12 Jul 08
When you had food stamps, did you want the government telling you what to buy with them? If they decide to blow the money on junk food, and are truly on an income where they get food stamps, it's their problem. You have no idea what their house looks like on the 8th or 9th, before they receive their stamps. Plus, how many of them are single? My sister is single and receives them. She's 19 (disabled) and she buys mostly junk food. Whatever, she's 19, if she wants to live off junk food that's her choice.
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• United States
13 Jul 08
I agree, people have a right to choose what they eat, and if it's considered "junk food", then that is up to them. The problem is, it seems like if the government gives out aid or help they seem to want to also control the recipients like some kind of puppet. Luckily I'm not on food stamps or anything, but if I had to be, and if people thought I was buying alleged junk food, it would be because I am very picky, there aren't many foods that don't make me sick to see, smell, taste, etc. Now, I haven't met anyone *as* picky as I am, but I'm sure that some of these people buying junk foods do so because that is the food they like, it's the food that they were raised on, and you know, by the time a person is grown up and in a position to need food stamps for whatever reason, they already have their tastes established. Actually, from what I understand, I was about 2 or 3 years old when I started getting sick from most foods. Another thing related to this is, I was a strong believer in the need for universal health care, but then the more I read and the more I thought about it.. like I said above, anytime the government is in control of our lives, it takes away our rights to decide what we put in our bodies and everything. Yes, the taxpayers help pay for welfare and stuff, but the taxpayers are also, like someone else pointed out, helping to fund the biggest travesty of a war in decades, personally, I would worry more about that billions of dollars.. a little junk food is not very healthy of course, but it takes many decades of eating like that to die from it, but the war has cost many innocent soldiers lives, most being so young that they haven't even gotten to live. Now that is unethical, if anything is. That is my personal rights stance on it. We have the right to choose what we eat, but of course I believe people should eat better, but nobody, even the government can control that. This really is a black and white issues.. there isn't much grey area. People aren't gonna change, and besides, all the government cares about is money, and they make money whether the food stamps go towards milk or milk duds.
@lisan23 (442)
• United States
13 Jul 08
Well, there's WIC, and if they are on food stamps often they are on WIC. WIC just changed their food, I believe, because it was actually contributing to obesity. (Lots of milk and cheese, and other high fat foods.) But most of their foods are healthy foods for children. Still, you can't force parents to feed their children properly. Anyway, I was on food stamps for a short time when I was pregnant. Someone probably thought I was buying junk food because I would buy ramen noodles and regular potato chips. However, at 4 months pregnant that was literally all I could keep down, and I couldn't even mix the flavor packet with the ramen noodles, or else I'd get sick.
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@taface412 (3175)
• United States
13 Jul 08
The main reason why eating junk food alone, and the only reason that I think is important is, a diet like that will not provide the nutritional needs of children. ANd these children who are fed this junk food may end up with Child Obesity (which is much more common nowdays thanks to tv, video games, Junk food, etc) And Childhood obseity can lead to health problems....such as heart attacks (and it has happened to children), diabetes (on the rise in a big way and can be prevented or controlled through proper diet), and other health conditions. I am realistic enough to know people will always eat junk food, I do too, but when their is help being given to a person they should use it wisely. I know people who use WIC (another form of government aide) for mothers with young children and they list what you can buy for example: 2 gallons of milk, Dry Cereal, Juicy Juice...and they list it on there and the cashier has to double check it and sign it, etc. This makes sense. I do not believe in Governmental Control, but people need to use it wisely, not selfishly. ANd anyone who grew up on one diet can change to a healthier one...hopefully before they get a health condition.
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• United States
13 Jul 08
It's sad that people do abuse the system. Some people need the help and I agree that they need the help. However, it really bugs me when people that are capable of working or work pretty good jobs and get more money than they claim are able to get away with abusing the system and getting money from the goverment. It really bugs the heck out of me. I know someone that doesn't get foodstamps but lives completely off of goverment funding and complains that it's not good enough. Every single person in that family is capable of working but no one does. They buy new cars and camping trailers all the time. I believe a new four wheeler was purchased not too long ago either. However, this girl gets a free ride to college because 'they don't have any money'. She constantly buys crap she doesn't need and charges items on a credit card all the time and then goes onto say that she will eventually pay her parents back. However all that money she gives them just gets recycled back to her. It's annoying that hard working families like myself pay a spoiled family money and are paying for that spoiled little brat to go to college while I'm struggling to pay for college without help and we definitely need more help than they do. It's definitely obvious from the amount of crap they purchase.
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• United States
13 Jul 08
It definitely is a viscious cycle. I really wish the government would refine their aide programs because what they're doing now obviously are not working. The government pays way too much money to people that do not need it and they don't want to work because it's a free handout. The girl in question feels she shouldn't have to work, that it's pretty much beneath her and won't attempt to get summer jobs because she shouldn't have to work. And we pay people for that kind of thinking. It's really, really annoying.
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@taface412 (3175)
• United States
13 Jul 08
I know it's annoying and the way I look at it is anyone who actually needs to draw this type of aide should get upset about the ones who are abusing it, because eventually the government is going to wake up to the fact that people are misusing the system, and not just buying junk food- I am talking about the people who can work, do work (minimum hours in order to qualify), and lie. So this should make anyone who uses "foodies" ill if they really need the help. I am just speaking from experience of people I have worked and do work along side.
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@taface412 (3175)
• United States
13 Jul 08
well, at least she is going to school...But i hear ya. I myself got through college on a mixture of Financial Aide and Loans and the dreaded credit cards....but I learned from all of this and maybe one day she will too. You can hope at least...but then again my parents didn't have money, nor aide or buy stupid items that will not help the family like you listed. You know I just thought of something I heard the other day that made me ill just hearing it...a girl was talking about child support and she actually said "I don't worry about him not paying support because I get more that way from the government..." AHHHHHHH. It's such a sad cycle....But at least she is paying taxes to somewhat support herself that way LOL
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
13 Jul 08
I'm quite sure I'm in the minority and it may not have been technically legal but....for the few months I was eligible for food stamps, I would buy s/o's junk foods and soda with it and then he'd pay me back in cash because the bulk foods store and the discount grocery store I preferred didn't accept food stamps. If I went to a standard grocery store I couldn't get nearly as much healthy, 'real' food as I could doing it the way we did it. I doubt the majority of the people you see are doing the same but did want to at least share an alternative.
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@taface412 (3175)
• United States
13 Jul 08
You know what else makes me sick...someitmes I hear people making sure they only work a certain amount of hours (Yes, they are working and drawing aid) so their rent won't go up, their foodies (as my friends call them) won't get cut off, and child care assistance and/or Medical Card won't be cut off.....All while they are driving new cars, getting new systems put in said cars, etc. And here I am having to borrow my parent's car to get to work, paying my bills and some of my parents pay check to pay check...etc. So I know where you are coming from....it makes me sick, upset and ill. But at the end of the day I know I am one of the honest, upstanding citizens who happens to know that becoming one of them is not worth it. I know a girl who the IRS took her refund away because she failed to report drawing foodstamps something like five years ago. So I hope everyone who cheats the system gets caught. Now if they just revise and improve the system it would be better for those who deserve it. Like the disabled and the elderly, the wives who leave abusive relationships and the men who are left widowed with kids, etc. instead of people who can work or are afraid to work to hard.
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@babystar1 (4233)
• United States
13 Jul 08
I agree with you 100%
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• United States
13 Jul 08
I know how that is. The girl in my post below was going to get a used car, all of a sudden, she (her parents bought it) ended up buying pretty much a brand new car of which new things are put onto said car all the time. My car however doesn't get worked on until it needs done but stupid things can be added to her car all the time to make it look better. She thinks she's better than everyone and that everything she owns is better than everyone else's things. If someone buys something that she thinks she can rival, she ends up buying it and makes sure to one up them. I take pride knowing I'm better than those people. I know it sounds bad to say it that way, but I'm not living off the taxpayers and milking them for all their worth. I'm struggling to pay bills, struggling to make it through college and I'm OK. Living off the government with such a blatant disrespect for taxpayers and the system is disgusting. They obviously have no plans for that to change anytime soon and it's annoying.
@taface412 (3175)
• United States
14 Jul 08
I know. There is a difference between knowing you need help and expecting help. There are far too many people out there who expect to get things for free...like they deserve it. Help is just that help...it is not a requirement or an obligation that has to be met by anyone...it is just an act of kindness....which is usually dismissed. I know several people who just expect things to come to them without any effort. These are the lazies in our world...and to me....they need to grow up. I am fortunate to never had to rely on such a source of income or even consider it, even though there have been many tough times in my life....people overcome them. And I am stronger for it....not reliant on others.... Plus, with budget cutting and such people need to realize one day it may not be there...and what will you have then? I am a firm believer in looking forward as much as possible....and covering your bases. But that does not require effort and work. Like I said before maybe I should look at the same way I look at donating to people on the street.....hoping it actually gets to the REAL people who deserve it.
• United States
13 Jul 08
I understand your concern and I also understand that there are people out there who abuse the system and who shouldn't. Seriously, why do you really care what these people eat? Just because you decided not to eat junk food when you had food stamps then that doesn't have to be the same decision they make. You can't go around telling people what to eat and what not to eat. What if the government made you buy junk food? I'm sure you wouldn't like that. I am with you on the fact that they should cut down more with the food stamps because people really do take advantage of it..but there are some boundaries also.
@vorksholk (122)
• United States
12 Jul 08
That is really bad. So the food stamps let you buy anything you want? How can they buy those high-end meats and make us pay for them? Isn't that kinda stealing? I always thought the government only gave food stamps to poor people. Are the people using food stamps dressed nice?
• United States
13 Jul 08
Yes some people are dressed nice and even have the nicer cell phones such as a Blackberry cell phone.
@babystar1 (4233)
• United States
13 Jul 08
I know there are a lot of people on food stamps. Thats ok if the persons really need the help.But there are so many people that are on food stamps that dont need to be. The ones that I see are driving brand new cars got brand name clothes and are on food stamps. This is not right. I have to go to work every day and pay for all the ones that are on food stamps that dont need to be.
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@underdogtoo (9579)
• Philippines
13 Jul 08
I live in a country which does not provide food stamps and if you cannot earn a living you would surely die and not be living off the hard work of others. Of course a lot of people have become professional beggars and this is their way of living. Whole families nay, whole tribes have taken to begging because there are people who do give them money and it is a good business for them to prey on the goodness of people.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
13 Jul 08
sdmoonchild yes its not right when someone takes foodstamps and has credit cards too, they are posing as poor when they are not but they will get caught. I do not begrudge most of the wo rking poor who really need the help of food stamps as I as a senior citizen of limited funds could get them but would rather not habe the hassle and the snide remarks of other people who are much better off. I do not judge people as I do not know alltheir circumstances so I do not let myself make nasty remarks to anyone who uses foodstamps. they have enough troubles on their plates as is.
• Philippines
13 Jul 08
Good day..I think it's for the American people to be responsible on how to use their food stamp. If they tend to abuse it sooner or later, the consequences will be on them. I know it's unfair for those people who are using their food stamp responsibly and it's really better to make a well-defined policy regarding what can be bought using food stamps and by what age group.
• United States
13 Jul 08
To be honest, brisket is a pretty cheap cut of meat. They're usually only .99-2.99 lb, but they're big so they seem like they're expensive. Those things can feed a LOT of people. If they were buying filet, it'd be a different story. Now, I completely agree with you on the junk food that people on food stamps seem to always buy. Recently, our community started a low-income cooking class for people on food stamps to teach them how to cook more nutritious foods and make their food stamps go a little farther by buying ingredients rather than boxed. A lot of people were raised on Twinkies and Cocoa Pebbles and don't know how to get by with eggs and a bag of flour, and the program seems to be making a huge difference in the way the attendees shop, in my area. Education can really go a long way, sometimes. As for the electronics, there are always going to be those who abuse the system, but the system is there to help those who actually need it. It seems like the ones that stand out the most are the ones that abuse the system, but there are a lot of people who are helped. You'd also be pretty suprised by how many people who make enough money to survive qualify for food stamps and welfare.
@singlemommy (2955)
• United States
13 Jul 08
I understand exactly what you are saying. I work with people who get food stamps, they get help paying their daycare, etc. I make less money than they do and I can't get any help at all. I've seen them going out and buying all kinds of junk food, like candy bars, etc just to bring into work and eat on all day. It's crazy, I don't understand it either. I agree with you, they should have some limits to what they buy with food stamps.
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• United States
13 Jul 08
sdmoonchild, Sadly so many use and abuse the system and end up feeling comfortable doing it. You make a good point about how users of food stamps should shop more conservatively and healthfully. Many times I have noticed that lots of food stamp users seem to be overweight. Please understand that I am not being prejudice toward anyone. But, I am seeing the healthy way of living side of this issue. In my mind I always find myself thinking that some need to "quit being lazy" and exercise instead of sitting around feeling sorry for themselves and eating so much. Maybe the food stamp program does need to set some guidelines on how to use their program. Good idea!
@AlephWren (135)
• Argentina
13 Jul 08
Nver heard of food stamps... But well, when new things arrive, what people at first will do is try to adapt to them, so try to make the system complex, like a laphyrinth, to don't let them get to the other side without looking "from above", so, Good luck next time and don't lose the hope, try better doing a research on the people's likes and dislikes and what they don't like to solve "puzzles, etc." and maybe a nice idea can come up for you to tell to your boss. ;)
@robert19ph (4577)
• Philippines
13 Jul 08
Hello sdmoonchild, That's sad. Yes, you are right there should be a regulations to specify what type of food should be allowed to used these food stamp or EBT cards. These are taxpayers money being used and should be regulated for those who used them also. Most of these government assistance program are prone for abuse too. People can't get around it and even they don't need assistance they were able to get it. There should be audit done and stricter punishment for those who abuse it. This way, people who really need it can benefit from it.
@coffeebreak (17797)
• United States
13 Jul 08
Yeah, for years I've been behind people in line with food stamps that were buying more expensive food that I was. And it is annoying that they hold up the line so much - seems each category of food has to be rung up seperately it seemed, not sure..just know that I am in line for 20 minutes and the same people are still being rung up.