How can the political left and the political right know two different 'truths'?
By ladyluna
@ladyluna (7004)
United States
July 24, 2008 8:18am CST
Hello All,
I imagine that many of us have asked this question; at least once or twice, right?
So, how can it be that the left and the right know, absolutely know, two opposite truths? Perhaps the answer isn't as complex as we may think. Perhaps it has everything to do with what we're being told, or not told.
Hmmm...
Yesterday I shared with two of my associates (at separate times) my assessment on how 'upside down' the world is when it's the tabloids that are doing investigative journalism, and the serious newspapers like the NYT are knee-deep in conjecture and speculation. Neither had any idea what I was talking about. Both looked at me like I was speaking in Mandarin Chinese.
So, I went on to explain how the "National Enquirer" should get at least a 'nod' for voluntarily 'tabling' the John Edwards affair and 'love child' story last December -- until they had more to go on -- at least some corroboration. Still, neither had any idea what I was talking about.
So, I asked each, very directly, "Didn't you hear or read about the gossip/ allegations from last December suggesting that John Edwards had had an affair with a woman who worked on his campaign? Separately, each indicated that they never heard or read a word about the accusations. What's more, I have no reason to believe that either was being less than 100% honest!
In all honesty, it's none of my business, AND I could care less what John Edwards, or anyone else for that matter, does in the privacy of their own bedroom. I do feel badly for Elizabeth Edwards, and their children. This kind of narcissistic nonsense is really difficult for kids to wrap their heads around. Yet, the affair itself is none of my business.
What I do find intriguing, and care very deeply about is that two of my associates, whom I personally like very much, in spite of their unconcsious embrace of socialism, had never heard about Edwards' alleged affair.
How could that be? I very distictly remember that questions about the affair were everywhere. Certainly, it was all over the tabloids, and it was all over the internet. I'm pretty sure that I remember hearing about it on the T.V. and radio as well. It was big news because -- if it was true, then the implications were very unflattering with respect to Edwards' trustworthiness or his lack thereof. Perhaps the bigger questions being asked related to his ability to keep his commitments to the office of the presidency if he was unable or unwilling to keep his commitments to his devoted wife, who was battling the fight of her life with cancer. On 12/19/2007 the Enquirer story broke, raising serious questions about Edward's character, and about a month and a half later, Edwards bailed out of the presidential race.
OK, so why do I provide the time table? Well, because it's inconceivable to me that the accusations about the affair had no bearing on Edwards' decision to quit the race. Whether the claims were true or not, that kind of personal gossip has, time and again, been such a distraction to a political campaign, that a campaign typically sinks under the weight of the negativity that it causes.
So, here are my questions for you:
Is it possible that my two associates never heard a word about the affair BECAUSE of where they typically get their news? In other words, if they get their news primarily from far-left sources, is it possible that those sources provided zero mention of the Edwards affair allegations?
If so, then it's conceivable to believe that many, many Americans were denied the informational link between the emergence of 'love child' allegations, and Edwards' abandon of the presidential race a scant few weeks later, right?
Furthermore, if it's true that my associates knew nothing about the 'love child' allegations, or the possible link to Edwards' decision to quit the race, then aren't the news sources who failed to cover the allegations being wholly negligent toward their customers, and the nation as a whole?
Is it possible that this glaring example of media negligence is directly responsible for the highly divisive state of our nation today? In other words, we know two totally different truths, because the media is manipulating what we're told.
And, if so, how do we remedy or repair this fissure of a problem?
The URLs below link to the original Enquirer story from last December.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/john_edwards_love_child/celebrity/64426
The Enquirerer's follow-up 'gotcha' story from yesterday.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/sen_john_edwards_caught_with_mistress_and_love_child_in_la_hotel/celebrity/65193
And Edwards' Louisiana announcement that he was dropping out of the presidential race.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/30/politics/main3768889.shtml?source=mostpop_story
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8 responses
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
24 Jul 08
Ladyluna,
On question 1; I believe it is not only possible buy very likely the reason these two associates had not heard of the Edwards affair was their choice of news sources! Just as the ultra-left here on Mylot refuses to take seriously any conservative news source, I believe the liberal democrats in the general public pay attention to the media who report in line with their views!
Question 2; Of course people are being denied pertinent and important news on the issues! Case in point; Barack Obama's overseas campaign to become president of the world--oh, wait, I mean president of the US! ALL three of the major networks sent their evening anchors to cover this circus! It's like unless you spell it "Obama" it just isn't news!
Question 3; I really can't tell you the remedy! I'll give you a theory which is hitting me in the face right now. The major news media (ie TV newspapers and radio) are trying to make "selective reporting" the norm
so when their "new born king" is elected it will be that much easier for him to control bad publicity! It's simple, right? If we are already used to only getting part of the news we won't miss even more of it later!
I've said this once but it bears repeating:
If the Bush-bashers are indignant about the percieved freedoms and rights trampled upon by GWB, I have to wonder what they will feel like if Obama gets elected? The bill of rights will be in every restroom of the whitehouse--on the toilet paper holder!
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
26 Jul 08
Hello Sir Rodney,
Thanks for sharing such good points!
"Just as the ultra-left here on Mylot refuses to take seriously any conservative news source..."
I wanted to address the above statement because I have experienced this first hand, and quite frankly I've been genuinely stunned by this phenomenon. Particularly when the right-leaning news source references a separate, verifiable source(s). This seems to defy all logic to me.
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
24 Jul 08
"How do we remedy or repair this fissure of a problem?"
Just in the way we are. The NYT is painfully aware their profits are down over 80%. As people continue to not read the NYT or to advertize in the NYT they will eventually get out of denial. Yes, they are in denial.
The liberal mindset is such that currently the NYT probably view their problem as the readership being too stupid to understand the wisdom they print. Eventually, it will dawn on them that is not the problem or they will go out of business.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
26 Jul 08
The tabloids actually are not that numerous. They can not handle even 1% of the people being laid off from all over the media. Additionally, the tabloids actually pay very well and get the cream as it is. I have read some excellant tabloid stories the MSM was too gutless to touch. Yes, I look at the headlines while buying groceries. When they have a solid story, I read it!
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
26 Jul 08
They have come a long way, haven't they?
I cannot say when the last time I saw a tabloid story about a two-headed alien. While I'm tempted to add a "(chuckle, chuckle)" commentary, I'm holding off because I'm still in a state of shock over the recent news from U.S. Astronauts Edgar Mitchell and Buzz Aldrin that aliens do exist. Go figure!
http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm303195.html
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread286298/pg6
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
26 Jul 08
Hello Red,
Yes, you're spot on. The disatisfaction is precisely why the NYT revenue is down 82%.
Actually, I do worry that as more traditional print news agencies are laying off their employees, where are they seeking replacement employment?
I wonder because it would seem that the tabloids may be efforting themselves to fill the void being left my the MSM. I sure hope that all the laid-off MSM staff aren't going to end up at the tabloids. I would think that they would deem the tabloids 'below' their NYT, LAT, CT stature. Any thoughts on this stream of consciousness???
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@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
24 Jul 08
Honestly, most people do not believe the National Enquirer because they are known more for their bulls**t than actually speaking the truth. The Enquirer loves to make up stories just to sell a paper. I am to the far-left and I know how the media can lie to people just to slander others in order to benefit from that person's misery.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
26 Jul 08
Hello Rogue13xmen13,
Precisely! Though, one cannot ignore the upside down shift between the traditional 'serious' sources of journalism, and the tabloids. The Tabloids are now doing what the main stream print media is not -- serious, investigative journalism.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
24 Jul 08
The big issue is that Edwards used his wife's cancer as a political aid, then to find out he was cheating on her. That is what I am getting out of this story. Now onto your questions.
As Rush says it is amazing what does not get packaged into what we call the evening news. If your only sourse is NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, and or MSNBC you are going to be less informed. I heard about this story because I listen to a more intellegent outlet for my news Talk radio. Anyone can watch television but it takes someone with a brain to get your news from the radio. The love child is not the only thing that has been left out of the evening news. Look at how they protect their party. Would anyone have heard that Democrat Congresswoman Maxine Waters wants to socialize the oil companies, if it had not been for talk radio. Lack of reporting on stories like these might just be the reason that they cannot pay anyone to watch their news programs. If one only get their news from the Lefty news media they will probably be more liberal on their view of the world.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
24 Jul 08
Hello Gewcew,
Yes, you're right! I did unintentionally neglect to highlight the point that:
Much of the controversy last December related to the question of whether John Edwards was capitalizing on his wife's illness. And, if so, how could he 'run around' on a woman who was willing to give so much for his goals and dreams?
My two associates both get most of their news from the internet: One gets her news from PBS, CBS, NBC, ABC -- in that order (or so she says). The other gets his news primarily from AOL, closely followed by the NYT and The Chicago Tribune. And yes, both associates are very liberal. Neither are CNN or MSNBC fans.
OK Gewcew, so you remember hearing about the 'love child' affair on the radio. Thanks for confirming that for me. It makes sense that liberals would not have heard it on the radio, since that is not a medium that they regularly choose.
The Maxine Waters 'government takeover of USA businesses' was absolutely shocking, I agree. This is an excellent example of the 'alternative media' running with a story, where the mainstream media ignored it. I say so because neither of my two associates heard a word about her plan to steal businesses from USA business owners. **Incidentally, one of those two associates that I've referenced is the C.E.O. of the oranization that I work for. Initially, he didn't believe that a fellow Democrat would make such a declaration about taking business away from business owners. So, I sent him the URL link to the video of Maxine Waters making her now infamous statment. I cannot say whether he actually viewed the video, or not, as he made no mention of it whatsoever.
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@Adoniah (7512)
• United States
25 Jul 08
The secular Left is a whole world of it's own. It answers to no authority other than itself. It's reporting is not usually based totally on fact, but it gets away with whatever it reports because there are no checks and balances anymore to stop them.
The very worst part of this whole thing is, that if the story of Edward's affair etc. had not at least broken somewhere, he would have run on his wife's illness. Both Left and Right were playing that to the hilt and Edward's would have used the country's sympathy to the inth degree.
Shalom~Adoniah
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
26 Jul 08
Hello Adoniah,
You make a very good point -- the secular left IS a microcosm. Though, I'd say that that right is also. Perhaps the most significant distinction is that the 'right' world is consistently intersected by the left. Where the opposite is not the case.
It's as if the MSM believes that it doesn't need to compare or contrast with anyone else, that what they write should be taken as fact. Whereas right-leaning sources then to compare and contrast, as a matter of course. Am I making any sense on this?
@MaeTsuen (257)
• Philippines
25 Jul 08
o.0 i really don't know what's the difference as far as i am concern.. everything about politics is just in the textbook or webster dictionary for reference but the meaning of it sometimes too idealistic and in reality it is not being practice.... so the true essence of it is lost through the years....
@theprogamer (10532)
• United States
16 Aug 08
I want to be somewhat sarcastic with the first part of my commentary. It maybe possible that the political left and political right live in alternate universes. I'll draw up the theoretical calculations if need be... but be prepared for a lot of numbers and symbols. ;p
Other than that, different members already stated the things I'm thinking of. One thing I would add is that regardless of political affiliation, people believe what they want and they hold their own "truths" depending on innate variables (needs, wants, perception). The only thing is that political affiliation influences this facet of human thinking quite significantly. People are also willing to defend and believe in certain truths more than others dependent on investment(how much they believe) in that truth.
I honestly don't see a "repair" happening here, simply the continuation of the BS news outlets, the radio shows and now internet sites. But last time I checked there were already people, politicians and groups trying to do their own "repair" job of this situation. And by repair its nothing of the sort in my opinion... what's really called for here is the dissolution of any news/talk that runs counter to what the BS evening news outlets and print are saying. Remember what I said about people wanting to defend their "truths"... the mentioned attempts on speech are a result of this. If this comes to pass, the people will no longer have to decide between different "truths", there will just be one manufactured and unquestioned "truth". The real truth be damned.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
24 Jul 08
I would imagine that your two friends do get their news primarily from far left secular progressive sources that chose not to cover this issue because they do not report straight news, they report what they believe and support and nothing else. I posted a discussion about this very problem not too long ago because it really bothers me that many Americans are not getting the entire story because they trust news organizations to presenst all of the fact and they repeatedly fail to do so. Yes, it is neglect but the organizations that do this don't care about reporting on the truth, they care about promoting their own political agenda and editorialize more than report. Fortunately, some big name newspapers are failing and network news organizations are losing viewers as more and more people wake up to the fact that they are beind denied information and are turning to other sources. The only thing that we can do as a nation is to insist on fair and balanced reporting by our news providers and, if we see that that's not happening, we should complain loud and often, not only to the owners but also to the sponsors.
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
24 Jul 08
Hello Spalladino,
Yes, you're correct. They are both left of center, secular progressives. One much more secular than the other.
Would you be so kind as to provide the title of your related discussion? I would appreciate being able to read more perspective and opinion about this subject.
You're right about big-name news sources finding themselves in deep trouble. In fact, the NYT is reporting that their profits are off 82%! I'd call that a loud & clear message, wouldn't you?







