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blogging2 (62)   ranked 908 out of 12,171 in parenting1 month ago

I know we all agree that we would do anything to protect our children from any harm that we can. Here is my situation...

OK we have a family member who has A LOT of displaced anger. This anger is directed at my husband for whatever reason. The family member was abused when he was younger by an uncle (that is what the other family members have told us), and blames my husband for not protecting him. The family member went so far as to cause a huge fight at our wedding and attempted to attack my brother with a beer bottle (literally).

So that is the background, I said in my question this was about MY child. My question is I truly feel that this family memeber is a sociopath. I believe he would hurt our child to get even with my husband (remember the anger is already displaced). Am I a horrible person for always having an excuse as to why this person will never be around my child? I know they are family, but they are angry, hurtful, and I am afraid of the harm they can do to our daughter. What would you do?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 83/100. soooobored (352)   ranked 10,797 out of 12,171 in parenting   1 month ago

You are the parent, and you probably aren't unfairly sensing danger. You knew this person was a problem and allowed him at your wedding, if you were just being petty you wouldn't have done that, so this is really about keeping your kid safe.

If the person presents a danger, then no contact with the kids, period. If you need to cut out additional people who may act on that person's behalf, then you have to do it.

I hope I don't sound harsh, but I do see it as pretty black and white. I also have a maniac in the family, and this is what we had to do. And then some! But you can't reason with crazy, so you just need to start cutting it out of your life.

Good luck!


blogging2 (62)   ranked 908 out of 12,171 in parenting  1 month ago

Thank you for the advice and support. They have pretty much cut themselves out over the past couple of years. My husband knew that there were issues in his family long before I came into the picture, he moved as far from them as possible while still staying in the states. They don't like that we have moved on, but I was hoping that I wasn't being too mean in always comming up with excuses. There is no reason to address it directly so far we have been able to just "be busy" on those rare occasions they ask us to come up.

This member in particular just called last week talking about how "he was sorry he couldn't give more to our daughter," and "how he could not wait to see her," etc. So it brought it back to the forefront.


myLot reputation of 83/100. soooobored (352)   ranked 10,797 out of 12,171 in parenting  1 month ago

Might it be better to be frank with this person? It's a hard line to toe, but at some point he might catch on and feel double offended, once for not being allowed to see your daughter, and the second because you "lied" to him. If he's far enough away, can you be frank with him about your reasons for keeping him away? Is there any possiblity that could get him into counseling?


blogging2 (62)   ranked 908 out of 12,171 in parenting  1 month ago

He has been to counceling, it didn't do any good. There is serious anger issues and some of them are probably legit, just focused on the wrong person. We have considered being frank with him, but he is happy with his relationship with his mother and father now and if we were to address it head on we would have to point out the fact that they are who he should be angry with, not my husband, and how would that help?

I understand what you mean by he maybe double offended, but I feel the only reason he would try to come down would be to hurt my daughter. He has called us less than 5 times in the 8 years my husband and I have been together. The latest being the one last week appologizing for not being able to see us more, etc.

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2. myLot reputation of 93/100. thelastwolf113 (1484)   ranked 1,364 out of 12,171 in parenting   1 month ago

You are absolutely correct to keep this person away from your child.
Too bad if he's offended, it's better than subjecting your child to future abuse.
My mom lived in CA before my son was born, she didn't know him, never met him until he was 11. And then she had this weird resentment towards him. She'd say mean things to me. So I wouldn't let her see my son. I treat my kid with respect and NOBODY is going to disrespect him or abuse him. She finally figured it out. I don't do drama, I just always made sure he was out when we'd have to see her. She adjusted her attitude and finally sees my son for the person he is and not the person she projected onto him.
I don't know what her deal was and I didn't care. I did the right thing for me son and if she was mad, too bad.
Your situation is more volatile and dangerous, I'd definitely keep that person away from your daughter.
Just because someone is family, it doesn't give them a free pass to abuse you or yours. Just as, you don't have to take crap from anybody, family or not.
I support you 100%


blogging2 (62)   ranked 908 out of 12,171 in parenting  1 month ago

Thank you for your words of support. I have been the bad guy on this for a while, it is easier for my husband to use me as an excuse on the rare occasions that it has come up. For example Christmas is with my family (not just because of this family member but because my husband gets sick whenever he is around his family literally) and my family is from the old school. They clap and cheer etc for our daughter, she is the first grandchild and doted on.

I know at some point she will see this person, my husband's mother is getting remarried next year. I just wanted to know that I am not wrong for saying, it will be on my terms, not anyone else in the family's. For example neither myself nor my daughter will NEVER stay in a home where he is OR has access to. I will get a hotel and have my own rental car if I need to get away.


myLot reputation of 93/100. thelastwolf113 (1484)   ranked 1,364 out of 12,171 in parenting  1 month ago

Children don't need to be around negativity, no matter what form it takes.
You're doing the right thing.


blogging2 (62)   ranked 908 out of 12,171 in parenting  1 month ago

Thanks!

 
3. myLot reputation of 96/100. dextornap (305)   ranked 5,083 out of 12,171 in parenting   1 month ago

Come out from that family with your husband and child. Stay way from others. If possible change your town and shift somewhere else. as far as possible to you and your husband. Why should a innocent child suffer and pay cost. I think as a mother you should take care of your child and do all that things which is possible you to do until your child will grow up and take his/her care by them self.


blogging2 (62)   ranked 908 out of 12,171 in parenting  1 month ago

OH let me clarify here, we live NO WHERE close to any of them. The closest is 24 hrs drive time and the problem one is 28 hrs drive time. And we have a small house so we have been able to make it clear that "while we would love to see them, there is just no room for them to stay here, so if they came to visit we would get them a hotel room so they would be comfortable."

I was just making sure I was not being a "mean spiteful" wife. I just would rather his family be upset with me than risk my daughter's saftey.

Thank you for the support!

 
4. myLot reputation of 98/100. porcelina7776 (218)   ranked 322 out of 12,171 in parenting   1 month ago

I believe that you should go with your 1st instinct!! Usually the mothers instinct is right and should be trusted. Just because this person is family doesn't mean that they SHOULD be involved in your child's life especially since this family member has a history of violence, and is angry at your husband. If you don't feel right about them being around, then don't let them. You shouldn't have to give them any reason why. It is your right to protect your child. If you do find yourself in a situation where you can't avoid this person, just grin and bear it, and don't have any communications with them. I know it might be hard to do, but like I said if your instinct tells your it wouldn't be safe, then trust it!!


blogging2 (62)   ranked 908 out of 12,171 in parenting  1 month ago

Thank you for the support. I really do feel that just moments could damage a child forever and I would rather have his family mad at me if it ever came to that, than to put her in what could be permanantly harmful situation. Sometimes it is easier to get in your head what you would do if it comes to it ahead of time and then you can put it out of your head because you already know the answer!

 
5. myLot reputation of 95/100. kezabelle (1920)   ranked 295 out of 12,171 in parenting   1 month ago

It depends if I thought they would be safe as long as fully supervised id allow "contact" if even that was a concern then no id refuse any contact. It sounds like your husbands family member needs a lot of help to get over what happened and while possibly refusing to let them see your child might make things worse unfortunatly children have to come first and if this person cant get help to get over what they went through then id do what ever i had to to keep my child safe. Hard choice to make but esentially easy when it comes down to the childs safety, thats my opinion anyway x


blogging2 (62)   ranked 908 out of 12,171 in parenting  1 month ago

I agree it is not going to be pretty if it ever came to it. I believe the family member does have serious real issues by this point. What happened none of us know, but he has it in his head that whatever it was was my husband's fault for not protecting him. The family rumor is that he was molested but again no one knows.

I know I can ensure that the very limited contact that may occur (I can only really think of 2-3 occasions, his mother's weding, and his parents deaths) that there is never a moment when my daugher would not be by my side. Any of these we would have our own hotel, own car, and I am known in the family for being a little "odd" so saying I want my space makes it where we don't have to address the situation...

I know that prob is not good either, but honestly I don't think addressing it would do any good.

 
6. myLot reputation of 80/100. christylynn (382)   ranked 3,093 out of 12,171 in parenting   1 month ago

When it comes to your children you are the only one who is going to protect them because no one else will. I know being a mom of 4 kids I will do whatever I have to, to protect them


blogging2 (62)   ranked 908 out of 12,171 in parenting  1 month ago

Thank you for the support, it does help to know that I am not off my rocker and that I am doing the right thing (to the best of my knowledge which is all I have to go on!).

 
7. myLot reputation of 96/100. Sillychick (1696)   ranked 29 out of 12,171 in parenting   1 month ago

Sounds like this person has given you reason to be concerned for your child's safety. I would continue to keep him away from her. Even if he says he would never hurt her, you can never be too careful. From what you describe, he is not a reasonable person, and needs professional help. If you don't feel comfortable having him around your daughter, then keep him away. You don't need to justify your feelings to him or anyone else.


blogging2 (62)   ranked 908 out of 12,171 in parenting  1 month ago

Thank you for the support! I am glad to know that I am not being unreasonable and that I was correct in not having to justify it (that would just lead to a debate in my opinon and there is no debate), I don't trust him and don't think he has any reason to be around her.

 
8. myLot reputation of 95/100. underdogtoo (2601)   ranked 4,586 out of 12,171 in parenting   1 month ago

A parent's job is to protect the kids and care for them and nurture them until they can fend for themselves. I will protect my family by any means possible.


blogging2 (62)   ranked 908 out of 12,171 in parenting  1 month ago

thank you for the words of support, that is all we can do for our children isn't it? And we all do our best!

 
9. myLot reputation of 47/100. MaeTsuen (243)   ranked 5,104 out of 12,171 in parenting   1 month ago

hmmm i don't have children yet but base from my mom as we were growing up... she never quarreled with any of the parents from my classmates or friends and she never scolded my friends or classmates. she just talks to them to my classmates or to the guardian. but she never makes a big issue out of it. if i will have kids of my own too in the future i will try my very best to be just like her. but things can run differently depends on the situation and circumstances=)


blogging2 (62)   ranked 908 out of 12,171 in parenting  1 month ago

I agree with not making waves if it can be helped. I really don't try to pick fights, this is just something I don't think the family will ever see eye to eye on, and I would rather they be mad at me for erring on the side of my daughter than allowing the possibility of danger to come to her.

 
10. myLot reputation of 68/100. jasyjen (110)   ranked 2,064 out of 12,171 in parenting   1 month ago

You certainly have my sympathy for having to deal with this at all. I wouldn't want to have to deal with such an uncomfortable situation. However, I think you are ABSOLUTELY right for keeping this person away from your child. No question about it, there is a chance that your child could become the innocent target of this person's rage. I think it would make things a lot easier if your husband backed you up on this and didn't use you as an excuse. I'm sure he is just trying to keep things peaceful, but it would really help your cause if he showed a united front. Good luck to you.


blogging2 (62)   ranked 908 out of 12,171 in parenting  1 month ago

Thank you for the words of support. My husband does support me, in the fact he knows my stance and that I am not budging on this one. He also trusts my judgement, it is just not something that we feel the need to come right out and say. Telling his family "There is no way this person will ever be allowed around our child" really wouldn't help anything. Using me as an excuse (and I had forgotten to mention that after this person did what they did at our wedding, I approached him quietly and to the side and let him know, "You got in your shots, and I hope you are happy, you will be at the ceremony tomorrow, and after that don't ever expect to be a part of our lives again." He did just that, and I know he complained to his mother who has hinted but never come outright. They do know my stance though and that my husband made his choice when he said, "I do."

 
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