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myLot reputation of 87/100. Ravenladyj (19028)   ranked 273 out of 19,259 in questions & answers 4 years ago

As many or at least some of you, know I am both an alcoholic and drug addict...Now I've been clean for 6 yrs now and drink only socially (though not at all lately for specific reasons) and got clean and sober on my own without attending any meetings of any kind etc etc....Well last night while on the phone with my bf we were talking about his recovery etc and he asked me to go to an A.A meeting with him while I'm there visiting him in a couple weeks.....Initially I said yes thinking that I could go as an observer but then he told me that I'd have to put my hand up when the group leader asks if there are any first timers there...Well in all honesty I'm not sure how comfortable I am with that....so my questions are for those who've attended meetings...and they are the following

- how uncomfortable were you at your first meeting....

- what was your thought about it AFTER your first meeting..

- have you ever attended a meeting NOT becuase you personally needed to but becuase you were there with a loved one who did

- if so, how was it for you

- can you describe what the meeting procedure etc was like in your eyes and would you do it again, recommend it etc etc (remember I'm not in need of meetings myself)

any other comments, suggestions, questions even etc is greatly appreciated.....

I'm all for supporting him in his recovery but for some reason I'm really uncomfortable with the thought of having to actually participate in the meeting itself ya know....

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1. myLot reputation of 33/100. barrudaki (1327)   ranked 3,899 out of 19,259 in questions & answers   4 years ago

Well I have never been to an AA meeting, but I do have a friend who has, I could ask her if you like. As far as raising your hand because you are a first timer there is nothing wrong with doing that because you would not be lying but if you get a chance to speak maybe you can talk about your road to recovery and how you are there to support your boyfriend.

I think it is wonderful you are helping your boyfriend by standing by him and also by being an example to him 6 years clean that is wonderful!


myLot reputation of 87/100. Ravenladyj (19028)   ranked 273 out of 19,259 in questions & answers  4 years ago

Thats just it though, I dont want to have to raise my hand when they ask...I mean yes I'd be a first timer to a meeting but I dont NEED to be at a meeting...In all honesty I would feel like it would be wrong for me to (participate)....I dont need meetings and by participating I would feel like I'm giving off the impression that I do and that I struggle with my recovery which isnt the case so it'd feel to me like I'm almost deceiving the members who are there because they NEED to be there adn I'd be taking away their time or cutting into their time...Does that make sense?? Plus now that I'm thinkin about it..I do still drink on occassion, I mean not like I did when I was at my worst but I'll have the occasional couple beers or glass of wine etc so again i'd feel like I'd be deceiving them ya know..

I'd like to think that my 6 yrs of being clean will be a postive thing for him..BUT I'm also aware that his situation is different to mine in a way and he has other factors that put him at higher risk IMO..I think one thing thats different this time though is the fact that he WANTS a support system and for me to be a part of it...In the past he basically wasnt ready (in my eyes) so he WOULDNT allow any of us (myself, his sister etc etc) to be there for him..if he felt like he was slipping he wouldnt lean on us..he'd just roll with it and screwup all over again if that makes sense....

If you get a chance and dont mind talkingn to your friend whos been that would be great..I'd like to get the input of someone who has attended meetings for their own benefit (rather than like in my case where I'd be thre as a supporter)..that would be great Barr and thannks for the offer...

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2. myLot reputation of 93/100. sweetierook (201)   ranked 1,630 out of 19,259 in questions & answers   4 years ago

I feel like I can relate to this because I have NOT been to a meeting ever, but am a recovering addict for about the same length of time. I did not go to meetings because I really thought that it would hender me more than help. My goal was to distance myself from people that I knew had a problem like me. I had heard stories of people going to NA or AA to make a connect. Heard about people going off the wagon becasue the met up with an old buddy at the meeting. There are people or probation or parole that are required to go there even though they are still using. I think that if you decide on your own that this is right for you and need the support.. it can be a good thing. However, I think that no one can make that decission for you. If you were struggling with your addiction and someone might suggest it. Of course!
I would feel uncomfortable if my bf tried to force it on me. I understand that he might just want to share it with you. But forcing you to participate doesn't seem appropriate. Good job staying clean and sober! The best of luck.


myLot reputation of 87/100. Ravenladyj (19028)   ranked 273 out of 19,259 in questions & answers  4 years ago

Oh just so its clear, he's not forcing me by any means...LOL he knows better for starters and he just wouldnt do that...He just asked if I'd go with him..

Like you I've never been to meetings and always felt like it would hinder me for several reasons actually...and yea my method was to partly just get away from not only the ppl but also the places that are my bad scenes ya know...Hell i took it as far as to not only move out of the region but to leave the country LOL BUT there were other factors on that one like my husband being an American for starters LOL..

My bf IS actually on parole but I dont think he is required as part of his terms to attend..I'll have to ask about that though..

Thanks so much for your input and good job to you too btw...

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3. myLot reputation of 97/100. Pose123 (8269)   ranked 2,031 out of 19,259 in questions & answers   4 years ago

Hi Ravenladyj, I have never been to an AA meeting either, though I've had friends who did attend. For me there was never a reason, but I've heard a lot of good things about the organization. I can understand your problem here, wanting to help your bf, but not wanting to raise your hand at the meeting. Maybe you could raise your hand but make it clear that you are only there to support your bf, and say nothing about your own addiction, or do they allow other than addicts to attend? Just trying to be helpful here friend. Blessings.

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4. myLot reputation of 88/100. wuzzle29 (152)   ranked 1,023 out of 19,259 in questions & answers   4 years ago

Hello my dear friend. Like you, I to am a recovering alcoholic and addict, but I did attend the meetings. I have been clean for 18 years now but it too was a fluke chance for me to get clean.

I was in the military and was using everyday when my friends would not sell to me or use with me I started finding it other place. There was a program for us enlisted peronnal on drug awareness and they mentioned a sort of get out of jail free card for people who are using to get some help and get clean. Well as you know my addict mind just heard what it wanted to hear and figured I would check it out and try to get help controling my addiction so my friends would use with me more often.

When I was checked into the rehab center and did the intake I even told them this, nothing was said to me at the time I had to stop using altogether or if it was I did not hear it. For the first few days it was mainly group therapy and discussing our past. Which as you might recall was not that pretty with my sexual abuse I endured by my father and brother. Soon we had to start to go to meetings in the public that they transported us to and of course they asked if there were any newcomers here. Sure it was not the most comfortable place to be at the time but you know what it was what I needed. To see some of the people there and be able to speak with them afterwards was great. You do not need to participate if you do not want to. You can just it there and listen to what the other people have to say, their story of recovery and mingle afterwards if you wish to. The whole thing of the AA and NA is the fact they are annonamous and when you leave there what you said there stays there. I have been to many other meetings in my 18 years and would gladly go to one again. If you ever need someone to talk to or just a friend they are always there for you just as I will be here for you too.

If it is just raising yor hand as a newcomer or sharing your story of recovery the experience of being with others who know your struggles and can relate to how you have felt is great. Trust me evreyone that is there was a newcomer at one time and felt the same way as you do. You wil not be singled out as some sort of alien just because you are a first time attendee nor will they post fliers of you around tow if you do not feel like sharing. Go support your boyfriend and keep an open mind ok.

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5. myLot reputation of 92/100. reckon21 (3482)   ranked 6,194 out of 19,259 in questions & answers   4 years ago

You have to be there to extend your support on his recovery.
Just give in to your boyfriends demands anyways it is not hard
as you think it is. You can do it. It mean so much to him.wub

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6. myLot reputation of 95/100. snowy22315 (8777)   ranked 492 out of 19,259 in questions & answers   4 years ago

It's not going to hurt you to go to a meeeting and participate even if you think you dont need it. I would go to be supposrtive and to just aid in your own continued sobriety also.

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7. myLot reputation of 77/100. myklj999 (7218)   4 years ago

The A.A. and N.A. meetings are really pretty low key, at least those I attended several years ago (18 years or so). I would assume it's pretty much the same. I don't know if I agree about their philosophy of "once an alcoholic/addict, always an alcoholic/addict", but that's another story. I don't know if you'll actually enjoy the meeting, but it shouldn't be that bad. I think it shows real character that you are intending to do this for your friend though. thumbup


myLot reputation of 95/100. LadyMarissa (4300)   ranked 141 out of 19,259 in questions & answers  4 years ago

Their philosophy used to be you're ALWAYS a recovering alcoholic. I've been married to 3 alcoholics. One tried to quit. I can say it's 30 years later & he still cannot resist the temptation. He can go forever without a drink until somebody hands him a drink, then he has to start all over gettin off the chit. It always makes me sad to watch. I know he can do it & he can until truly tempted. Then the human flesh takes over. It's a NEVER ending battle. All you can do is be there for him, try to be strong for him, & NEVER give up on him (the hardest part).If you give up on him, it gives him the only excuse he needs to give up on himself. My prayers will be with your boyfriend (& you)!!! thumbup

In my humble opinion, raising your hand to say it's your first time there, is NOT saying you're acknowledging bein an alcoholic. I do believe you're given a chance to speak & tell your story at which point you can say you're a recoving alcoholic & are there to support your boyfriend in his desire to become sober. If it makes you that uncomfortable, maybe you shouldn't go. My guess is your boyfriend will see that as you're not supporting him & he will become very agitated. Your support seems to mean a lot to him.


myLot reputation of 87/100. Ravenladyj (19028)   ranked 273 out of 19,259 in questions & answers  4 years ago

My guess is your boyfriend will see that as you're not supporting him & he will become very agitated

Oh my no not at all!!! Especially considering I've been there for him for the past 12 yrs when was in prison, out of prison, messing up and going back to prison etc etc....He'd totally understand if I didnt go...and would NEVER think I was unsupportive of him..

Mike - I think that the "once an addict, always an addict" only applies to SOME but I dont htink it should be used in a general sense ya know. In fact I think its totally unfair to generalize it like that....My husband is a former alcoholic and he DOES NOT fall under the "Once an alcoholic always an alcoholic"..I on the other hand do and will always....I'll ALWAYS be an addict BUT I wont always be a "user".....

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8. myLot reputation of 98/100. littleowl (5305)   ranked 785 out of 19,259 in questions & answers   4 years ago

Hi Raven..Congrats on you being dry for as long as you have my sister is an alcholic but has been dry for 2trs now after she nearly lost her life through drink..she never attended AA but was treated by her hosp and GP also she had a lot of support from our family...but she was much like you in a sense she never wanted to get into the 'system' so to speak which I can understand so can understand your problem but its a double one as you b/f has asked this of you..really wish I could help you on this but all you can do if you want to help him is go along and when asked if a first timer though you are you can stand proud if asked and say OU have been dry for the past 6yrs in that wayyou will be not only will you be more encouragement to your b/f but also to everyone else...be PROUD of YOURSELF for being able to do this if you can..I know you have the bottle and strength to do it Raven only its your chice in the end bright blessings littleowl

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9. myLot reputation of 83/100. sherlock27 (850)   ranked 3,964 out of 19,259 in questions & answers   4 years ago

I've never heard of an alcoholic drinking socially. I thought if your an alcoholic you can't get near the stuff.You drink to be social? My husband joined A.A and I went with him to support him. I really think your are in denial. If you are an alcoholic you need the meetings.I get the impression you can't get into participating because you really aren't ready to face your demons.


myLot reputation of 71/100. RhythmWalker1 (755)   ranked 4,720 out of 19,259 in questions & answers  4 years ago

Ditto, Sherlock

It's a matter of whether you are an alcholic or not. If you can't control
your alchol intake once you start, you just might have a problem.
I've watched in horror as a family member of mine turns up a beer can and drinks it in 2 swallows. Then he pops another top and proceeds to drink until he has
to "pass out". He doesn't see that he has a problem.
These meetings can help us learn many things. Going to them to support someone with a problem is an act of love. Unconditional Love at it's best.


myLot reputation of 87/100. Ravenladyj (19028)   ranked 273 out of 19,259 in questions & answers  4 years ago

Wow..I faced my demons YRS ago...Sure in the beginning of ones recovery you CAN'T go near the stuff...I'm not in the beginning though..Just like my husband who has been on the wagon for 14 yrs or so..he can sit and have a couple beers and be fine...I DON'T drink to be social...I never said that..I said I drink socially, if I'm out for dinner with a friend or my husband I'll have a glass of wine or a cocktail with dinner for example....

Addicts and alcoholics DO NOT NEED meetings or at least not all of them...sure some do because thats what works best for them...there are those of us however that dont and we get clean and sober just fine in fact NOT going to meetings is the best way for us....Like I said I've been clean for 6 yrs now WITHOUT any meetings, programs etc etc...

LOL the last thing I am when it comes to me or any part of my life is in denial in fact just the opposite..I spent many yrs getting rid of denial in my life and that was a long time ago..

I honestly think that you arent understanding my position on this and thats fine because the reality is you dont know me....bottomline is this (I came to this conclusion after discussing it with my husband the other night)...I am the type of person who doesnt like to take away from others in need...Ppl go to weekly meetings because they NEED to be there..i dont need to be there (for me I mean), I have a great support system and am a very strong and determined woman..so by participating I would feel like I'm taking away the time from those that NEED it...and thats something I'm not ok with....make sense?

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10. myLot reputation of 96/100. vera5d (2201)   ranked 2,349 out of 19,259 in questions & answers   4 years ago

I can understand why you might be uncomfortable being there, but let me tell you, nobody there is going to judge or think badly of you for being there, even if you're not in "need" of a meeting. There are many recovered alcoholics who still attend meetings just to help others.

Nobody is going to make you talk about anything you don't want to, but to get the most benefit, it's best to be honest with yourself and everyone else. You can easily say exactly what you said here, "i used to drink and do drugs but have been sober for 6 years, and while visiting my bf came along because he asked me to." Nobody is going to be upset by that, they're going to think, wow, this guy has a good girlfriend!

Personally, i am not a huge fan of aa, but if it is helping and working for your boyfriend, then that is all that matters.


myLot reputation of 87/100. Ravenladyj (19028)   ranked 273 out of 19,259 in questions & answers  4 years ago

Thank you! I think you get it and your reply is very helpful...(though its my own issue about participating when not in need...what anyone else thinks of me has never really been somethig I worry about..I'm just b!tchy like that LOL)

I have to admit too that I'm not a huge A.A or N.A fan either....BUT that has a lot to do with ppl I grew up with, where I'm originally from and how things work there etc etc...

thank you again for a fantastic response! thumbup

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