the downside of reusable bag  | | | | i was thinking that reusable bags are good for the environment....but this article from yahoo, is saying the opposite...READ ON An Inconvenient Bag The green giveaway of the moment -- the reusable shopping bag -- is a case study in how tricky it is to make products environmentally friendly. It's manufactured in China, shipped thousands of miles overseas, made with plastic and could take years to decompose. It's also the hot "green" giveaway of the moment: the reusable shopping bag. The bags usually are printed with environmental slogans as well as corporate logos and pitched as earth-friendly substitutes for the billions of disposable plastic bags that wind up in landfills every year. Home Depot distributed 500,000 free reusable shopping bags last April on Earth Day, and Wal-Mart gave away one million. One line of bags features tags that read, "Saving the World One Bag at a Time." But well-meaning companies and consumers are finding that shopping bags, like biofuels, are another area where it's complicated to go green. "If you don't reuse them, you're actually worse off by taking one of them," says Bob Lilienfeld, author of the Use Less Stuff Report, an online newsletter about waste prevention. And because many of the bags are made from heavier material, they're also likely to sit longer in landfills than their thinner, disposable cousins, according to Ned Thomas, who heads the department of material science and engineering at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Used as they were intended, the totes can be an environmental boon, vastly reducing the number of disposable bags that do wind up in landfills. If each bag is used multiple times -- at least once a week -- four or five reusable bags can replace 520 plastic bags a year, says Nick Sterling, research director at Natural Capitalism Solutions, a nonprofit focused on corporate sustainability issues. Just as digital music downloads were the giveaway of choice last year, reusable shopping bags are the new "it" freebie. Earlier this month, Google handed out 525 nylon bags bearing the company's logo at its "Zeitgeist" conference, a meeting of business and political leaders held at its campus in Mountain View, Calif. The Sundance Institute gave out 12,000 fabric bags at its annual film festival earlier this year. Elisa Camahort Page, cofounder of BlogHer, an online community for women bloggers, says she even gave away 150 reusable bags to guests at her wedding last year. Fueling the reusable-bag boom is the growing unpopularity of the ubiquitous throwaways known as T-shirt bags, so-called because the handles look like the top of a sleeveless T-shirt. An estimated 100 billion plastic bags are thrown away in the U.S. every year, according to the Worldwatch Institute. Last year, San Francisco became the first U.S. city to ban the bags from supermarkets and chain drug stores, and this month, the city of Westport, Conn., banned most kinds of plastic bags at retail checkout counters. Boston, Baltimore and Portland, Ore., are also considering bans. Earlier this year, Whole Foods Market grocery stores stopped using the T-shirt bags, and now offer paper bags or sell reusable totes priced at 99 cents to $29.99. Next month, Ikea will also discontinue their use, forcing customers to carry their purchases to their cars, bring bags from home or buy the chain's 59-cent reusable blue plastic substitute. Such efforts are helping make reusable totes the nation's fastest-growing fashion accessory, with sales this year up 76% to date over last year, according to Marshal Cohen, chief industry analyst at the market researcher NPD Group. At Bags on the Run, an online-based Phoenix company that sells nonwoven polypropylene bags, sales this year are up 1,000% to date over last year, according to Aerin Jacob, senior vice president of business development. Eco-Bags Products, which sells bags made of fabric, recycled materials and plastic, had $2.2 million in sales in 2007, a 300% increase over 2006, says Sharon Rowe, who heads the Ossining, N.Y.-based company. ChicoBag, in Chico, Calif., has tripled sales of its $5 reusable polyester tote this year, says president Andy Keller. THIS IS AN EXCERPT OF WHAT THE ARTICLE IS ABOUT....IF YOU WANT TO LEARN MORE, GO TO THIS SITE: http://online.wsj.com/art... | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| 1. Sheepie (2576)
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4 years ago
| | Well, right now we use the normal plastic bags, but we just use them as garbage bags, and when we get too many we put them in a bin at Shoprite where they are recycled or something like that. I don't know if I have seen anyone use reusable ones, and it seems kind of strange, especially because we have to buy food for the whole family, so it is a lot of bags for us to have to carry there. | | | | | | | bubblyapple (1411)
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4 years ago
| | we do the same......whenever we go out shopping for groceries or anything, we don't throw the plastic bags....we use it as trash bags.....so instead of buying another set of trash bags-which are plastics too, we just reuse the grocery bags we have.... | | | | | | | | |
| | | bubblyapple (1411)
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4 years ago
| | wow....making such an effort is truly amazing....i hope to follow your footstep so that in my own little way, i would be able to help our environment.... | | | | | | | | |
| 3. cobrateacher (4909)
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4 years ago
| | Notice, the problems aris when people don't use the reusable bags. I keep several in the car, and they go with me into the store. I've been using the same ones for more than a year, and I believe there would have been a whole lot of plastic in landfills had I not used them! | | | | | | | bubblyapple (1411)
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4 years ago
| | yeah, imagine if all of us just throw those plastic bags that we get from grocery stores...it would have been a bigger mess than what we have now.... | | | | | | | | |
| 4. coffeebreak (7191)
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4 years ago
| | I read that to and thought, good grief, here we all are trying to "go green" and the media is finding fault with that! ALl we heard was go green, save plastic and landfills, buy these bags. We do and what happens? some special interest group or the confuound media, turn tables and tell us no, that isn't good. Can they all please make up their minds!!! I think these bags are a good thing - if they can save as many plastic bags as they say they do and trust me, some creative person will come up with a way to re-use them some time down the road so this articles fears won't be as they say they will be. And even if they are, these bags last a long long time - do the math of the life of one of these bags and whole many plastic ones to match that life, and even if they aren't as recyclable - they stillput tons of plastic out of commission. Ya gotta start somewhere and there are so many uses for these that the article didn't mention any of that. I use those bags often. I think the Walgreens ones are the heaviest - the ones I got at Target are already pulling apart at the seams and I haven't used them that much. But I do now see the quality in them and it is infearior. But anyway, I have sevearl and I keep a stack in my trunk of my car and 2-3 in the house. My garage is a bit away (living in an apartment complex) so I fill one from teh house with things I need to take with me. As shopping through the day, i will use them to haul things from the car to the apartment. I am trying to collect enough to not use plastic bags at grocery - that is my goal. They are much stronger than the plastci anyway and with the walk distance fromgarage to apt - I need that strength. They also make go bags for things like taking things to others house, colletcing toys and things like that around the house, laundry bags for small items etc. I say do the best you can with what you goT | | | | | | | bubblyapple (1411)
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4 years ago
| | yeah, we do what we have to do...but if they keep on confusing us, then we just decide on our own which ones help and which ones dont..... | | | | coffeebreak (7191)
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4 years ago
| | If they didn't confuse us - they'd all be out of a job!! In this case I think it is so stupid, tho. And really it shows their stupidity, but it isn't going to change anything. IF we all stopped using plastic bags and these recycle bags, we'd have to go to brown bags again....but then they'd carry on about the tree population being destroyed... If they'd just do something intelligent, like figure out how to grow extra arms and hands, we wouldn't have this problem! But do you think they do the intelligent thing? Oh.....No..... | | | | sid556 (18637)
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4 years ago
| | coffee break...well put! I am in the same situation as you. My parking is a bit of a distance from my apt. I find these hold more and are so much easier to carry. I also use them for many other things. So what is the alternative here? Give up the green bags and go back to the zillions of plastic ones? ya...that makes sense. | | | | coffeebreak (7191)
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4 years ago
| | They made it sound in the article, that people just buy these recycle bags, use them once and trash them that same week. Look at what you are buyig and for 99 cents you can pick one up every week so no big investment and use them countless times! I have a few from different places and Targets are the flimseiest and Walgreens are the strongest. I notice at the dollar store the other day they have htem with their logo - didn't check them out as I have plenty at the moment nad Walgreens are 99 too. Actually the better of the worst at Target is $1.25 I think and red!!! Also on the plastic bags - if you have a Ralphs grocery store (and maybe others, that's just where I go) they weill give you points to the club card for bags you bring back and let them reuse to put your groceries in - 5 points per bag. So there you recycle, thing is twice and a third time, there are holes in those bags so you have to dump them, but the points are redeemed for dollars and every 500 points is $5. Add these points to the points you get from what you spend on groceries. I get $5 minimum each month in points/cash for not doing literally anything but buying groceries there and their prices are pretty good considering all. | | | | | | | | |
| 5. sid556 (18637)
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4 years ago
| | I use the re-useable bags all the time. I bought a few for .99 ea. Why would anyone want them if they are not going to use them? I use them for groceries and toting my crafts and all sorts of things. I hardly ever get plastic bags anymore. The few that I do get are used to line my bathroom trash can. I think they are a great idea and I see them being used more and more. I'm sure that eventually they do wear out and must be added to the trash but then again, so does everything else we use. I really don't think there are that many that go to the trouble of getting these sorts of bags that just throw them away afterwards. | | | | | | | | | | | |
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