Can "Dewey Defeats Truman" happen in this election?  

Sorry, sirnose, my tv antenna doesn't pick up very well through these stone
walls. I agree the polls are basically meaningless and the media mostly
tells us what they want us to hear. Thanks for your response.

I think the MSM still try their best to make everyone believe the election is a done deal long before election day, just as they did in 1948.

I'm hoping, too. I'm beginning to think if we take the opposite of what the MSM are preaching during presidential elections, we will have the truth. What they do in trying to manipulate the thinking of the American people could be called mere wishful thinking. People should give more credence to their gut instincts than to the MSM and their polls.

I posted this in another discussion, but I feel the need to share it here as an example of why you can't always trust what the polls say:

Polls are more subject to bias than most people are aware. I worked for a market research company and used to call people to take surveys. My company would often do political surveys and here's is an example of how it works:

Question asked to voter:

Would you vote for candidate Mixlplic if you knew he donated every paycheck he ever made to feed and house homeless people, orphans and kittens?

Most people say yes, even though Mixlplic never did such a thing, but it is not a lie because it is a "hypothetical" question.


Question asked to voter:

Would you vote for candidate Zippyflip if you knew that he routinely killed and ate kittens and wants to raise taxes to pay for contributions to groups that feed homeless people and orphans to alligators?

Most people say no, even though Zipplyflip never did such things, but it is not a lie because it is a "hypothetical" question.

Then the survey results come out and say that the majority of voters say that hey will vote for Mixlplic.

The thing about statistics is that they can be manipulated to say whatever it is that you want them to say. And surveys such as the one I used for an example, not only give misleading results, but the hypothetical lies used to get the kind of answers desired also plants a seed in the mind of voters, who may actually now beleive that one candidate kills kittens and the other rescues them.

Mark Twain said it best:

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."

Thanks for responding, kenzie. This information is very encouraging. Routers is a well known news agency and I'm glad they are being thorough to try and get a lot of demographic information when they do their polls. In my opinion it gives a much more accurate view of how the American people are thinking.

I am believing McCain will win, just because I think that most Americans aren't that gullible, to choose charm over dedication when choosing a president. I think polls are highly changable and that they are manipulated in a variety of ways in their presentations according the the whims of the MSM. Obama's resume looks lame alongside John McCain's, so I think most people will realize he is the better candidate to choose.

I'm a McCain supporter, however (and unfortunately) I've come to believe Americans *are* that gullible.
They respond to talking points parroted by partisan automatons, as opposed to doing the research for themselves.
They listen to campaign mantras that have absolutely no substance or meaning.
They believe what they hear, if they hear it enough times.
They vote a party without even understanding what that party's platform *really* stands for today.
They buy what an incredibly tainted mainstream media feeds them.
They believe the indignation and outrage of fools like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, in reference to the credit meltdown, when those two were probably more responsible than any other elected official.
They believe the perpetually "edited" platforms of Barack Obama, whom's entire career has been all about his own advancement (he's never written biographies, or novels, or texts -- only *autobiographies* -- it's always about Obama).
They would rather respond to elegant two-faced smiles, and empty polished promises, than disheveled substance, and awkward honesty.

I've given up. They'll get what they deserve...