Bans newspapers from being read at this place?Need to read

@Lakota12 (42600)
United States
October 25, 2008 10:12pm CST
http://www.thecommunitypaper.com/
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8 responses
• United States
26 Oct 08
Good grief, get a grip, people. Kaiser Permanente is not a college - it is a privately owned health care and health insurance company. As such, they have every right to decide that they don't want to disseminate a free weekly newspaper that has already been under fire by area hospitals and health care organizations. No one is shutting the paper down or telling them that they can't print whatever they want, least of all the Obama campaign or the Democrats. A private organization was offended by something in the paper and let the paper know that they don't want to hand it out for free to their customers any longer. Frankly, I'd be pretty peeved and more upset if the story had been about a private organization being -required- to allow the dissemination on their own property of something they found offensive. If you want to talk about the erosion of our civil rights, look no futher than the folks in the White House currently.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
27 Oct 08
it still attacks freedom of the press and so what if the people that have always read this paper there still wanted it to be deliverd . also I dont think you went on to read any more read comment above you says alot!
• United States
27 Oct 08
There is no attack on the freedom of the press. There is a privately owned company who chooses not to hand out a privately owned newspaper for free to its customers. The company is doing nothing to restrict what is being printed in that paper. They simply have chosen not to give it space in their privately owned property. I not only read the full link -and- all the opinions expressed after your discussion, I also understood that it was not a publicly owned institution or a college, and that freedom of the press has nothing to do with this issue. It's about individual freedoms and rights.
• United States
28 Oct 08
Attention wonderful people. There's a nifty little document called "The Constitution." Most libraries and some internets will have a copy of this piece of archaic literature. I quote the portion commonly known as the 1st Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Now, what's cool about the first amendment is it does give people the ability to speak freely, assemble freely, press freely, and/or religiousize freely. (Note: some words may be made up. Void where prohibited.) This amendment has been interpreted, mauled, spindled, and adjusted several times, through case law. Scheneck v United States (1919) is a popular one, which discusses the limits of the right to free speech (yelling "fire" in a crowded theater = bad, unless there is a fire, in which case...good call on your part). If you've gotten this far, many of you probably think I support your viewpoint on the "hazards of censorship" and the "Dangers of Obama." Yeah...you'd be wrong. Kaiser Permanente is in fact a private business. And as such, has EVERY right to say "Thanks, but we'd rather you not deliver your newspaper on our property." They are not bound by the Fairness Doctrine, do not represent a federal, state, or local organization, and has not, at any point, attempted to censor anyone. The newspaper is undoubtedly still being printed. If a law is being broken here...it'll likely be by the newspaper if they continue to distribute the newspaper to KP against their wishes. I believe the law in question would be "littering." Undoubtedly, many of you have seen the phrase "This Restaurant reserves the right to forbid service as it sees fit." It can say that because it's a private business. Good luck saying that the restaurant is violating the constitutional right of assembly. Now, if it can be proven that a person's civil rights are being violated by non-service (e.g. the restaurant serves everyone, so long as they're male), then they could be sued. If you're going to make random, incoherent, unrelated, biased statements, without merit, evidence or basis...try to make better, random, incoherent, unrelated, biased statements.
@polachicago (18716)
• United States
26 Oct 08
I don't think it has anything to do with politics. Maybe ethics. Journalism very often forget about ethical site of the work. Freedom of speech is different from an assault. I don't know the newspaper, but the true is always in between. Freedom of speech is constitutional so is personal freedom free from an assault. Maybe medical professional mentioned was under newspaper attack and finally got enough. Maybe....I am just guessing. Lie is easy to sell and many people are becoming victims from freedom of speech, some will never recover. Again, I am just guessing....
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
26 Oct 08
thaks for responce . as I dont know for sure either but No one shoudl be able to stop a news paper for running what they want to say thats freedom of the press and if our first amenment dont mean athing if we dont stick up for it.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
26 Oct 08
“You ran an editorial that we did not agree with,” she said. “You had a picture of Senator Obama and had derogatory things to say about him. Plus,” she went on, “several of your jokes we found offensive. I and several of my colleagues found them offensive.” She told us further, “Our Physician-Leader read your editorial critical of Obama and it upset him. He said he didn’t want this paper here anymore.”
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
26 Oct 08
oops did you read that part this is why they banned trhe paper not because it said any thing about the medical profession
@meme0907 (3481)
• United States
28 Oct 08
Interesting topic LKo-we have freedom of speech as our constitutional rights & the actions against the paper are assinign ((hugs))
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
28 Oct 08
they sure are!
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
28 Oct 08
Ah so America now get a test what life would be like under Obama. Any paper, any person who does not agree with him will be punished severely. It would never happen under McCain. America has to remain free. It will not be free under Obama. Just read all what the Obamites say, and be warned. A paper should be able to print both sides, unless it is specific to a certain group such as a religious paper.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
28 Oct 08
thanks for you responce made good points in it
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
26 Oct 08
wow. *blink blink* Wow. Wake the F*$# up people. I don't know whats scarier, an Obama presidency, or the veritable trance people and institutions seem to be in over it. Colleges banning news papers for not putting him in a posative light. Government investigating a citizen for questioning him. Media crusifieing a mnn for questioning him. A tv station barred from interviews and access for questioning him. wow.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
26 Oct 08
Between this and the "B" girl I don't believe I want to be associated with any of the people supporting either candidate. I think I'll vote for a corn dog with mustard as its running mate. Probably be the best president we ever had.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
26 Oct 08
Oh geez, I haven't had a corn dog with mustard in years! That's definitely going to have to be a write in vote.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
26 Oct 08
MAybe we all need to write in Joe the Plummer!
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
26 Oct 08
I still have kids at home. They put catsup on theirs. Ewwww. That is soooo wrong.
@walijo2008 (4644)
• United States
26 Oct 08
Well I think thats silly, everybody has a right to say what they want to say, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press. I don't think its right for them to try to say what we can and can't read just because a couple of people don't agree with it, it doesn't mean that everybody doesn't agree with it.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
26 Oct 08
So do I and they shouldnt be able to dictate where the papers go am sure alot of people enjoyed the paper. and now they dont seem tobe able to get it!
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
26 Oct 08
I certainly don't agree with censorship in any form so, yes, this is very disturbing. I hope The Paper continues to fight this.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
26 Oct 08
So do I for its not right that they have no freedom of the press!