May need some new medication.....
By psspurgeon1
@psspurgeon1 (1109)
United States
November 17, 2008 11:50am CST
I have borderline personality disorder. I have had it since I was about 13. This is not anything like mulitple personality disorder, so please don't wonder if your talking to me or another version of me. It is just me... anyway... I go off my meds alot cause I really don't like the idea of being numb and emotionless and requiring medication for survival or "good mental health". So I haven't been on any medication for about 2 years or more and have for the most part felt really good. The problem is...I can feel myself changing. I'm getting really sensitive and emotional which for me is a key indicator of a problem coming so I'm going to go back on the meds. I just wanted to vent a bit cause this may be one of the last posts that I make that actually has feeling to it. I may become boring and robotic. It's just so sad to me because I wanted to raise my daughters to be normal and strong, not mentally ill or even for them to see my illness. It bothers me that I may not be as sensitive to them, yet it is dangerous if I go unmedicated when I clearly need it. Not dangerous like I would hurt anyone but dangerous that I may show so many different feelings in a short period of time that it could be traumatizing to them. I may be very happy one minute and then cry for no reason. That kind of thing. I may not be able to maintain a "happy mommy" face no matter how much I love them and want to. It is just becoming more difficult to be normal. I know it's time, I'm just not ready. It makes me sad. I wonder what kind of life they have to look forward to with me as their mother. Do you think they will be like me? That is the last thing I want...I mean that...I don't want them to be like me.....
5 responses
@cryw0lf (1302)
• United Kingdom
17 Nov 08
I'm currently only 16 (even though my profile says 18)... SHH. Lol.
I am mature for my age so dont assume i'm talking about rubbish.
I've been depressed, best part of 6 years. So i was 10 when i first felt truly unhappy- I noticed over some time, it got worst, to a point where more recently i have self harmed twice.- I know its stupid to do such a thing, but its part of growing up for me, it helps me deal with the reality of knowing that i did the stupid thing again, the second time i struggled more then the first, because my body told my mind it didnt want to happen.
My mother was depressed, and apparently depression is hereditary-
But to top that off, my mother was never there for me emotionally, and i think thats whats important to you right now, and its what you need to focus on- especially at this age, i am mature enough- i am going to college, but there are still things i need my mothers support for, and i never got that.
She was irrational, and cruel to me. Arguments used to be caused by fault of me, around 2 years ago, but the recent 2 years i have grown up alot.
I think the sad thing is, i'm left feeling i have to support myself. Although now i have my boyfriend (we've been together over a year now) and he's supported me through everything.- One of my recent arguments- i told my mum that my boyfriend had been a better mum then she had. Which emotionally, and sadly, is true.
I think the most important thing is, you listen to your children, you talk to them, make them feel open about talking about things.- I mean, i was bullied 2-3 years ago, for about 2-3 years, which didnt help my depression. And the saddest thing was, i didnt have a friend in the world (i'm not too great at making friends, i'm too nervous etc.) and i didnt even have my mum, she didnt believe me when i told her.
Now- i've become so distant... she ruins every little piece of happiness i always have when i'm here, so i try to spend most of my time with my boyfriend. Recently, i told her i hated her. And that i truly meant it, and in a way, i actually do. She's never emotionally carried me when i needed it, so why should i feel emotion for her?
Just support them, let them know you love them... and least of all, HUG them... (My mum never hugged me...)
I hope this wall of text helps, if it bored the hell out of you- sorry.
Good luck, i hope you find all your answers :]
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@cryw0lf (1302)
• United Kingdom
17 Nov 08
You dont know how much random respect i have for you right now.
It terrifies me that i might grow up to be like my mum... or you (no offense) :P
I just dont want to take medication that may make me numb- i'm so glad you found your husband- my boyfriend makes my life so much easier.
@psspurgeon1 (1109)
• United States
17 Nov 08
I was exactly like you growing up. I self mutilated for about 6 years while living at home and my mom never even noticed. Now days, it's hard to cover that up. It is scars that are noticible and emotional scars that are never ever seen. My mom told me when this all started that all of my feelings were nothing more than teenage problems and they were not important enough to warrent a trip to the doctor or medication. My feelings were insignifigant and meaningless. I was just a kid with kid problems. I never had but one friend adn when that friendship was not going great, I had noone. My mom went on medication after I moved out and all I could think was, why didn't you do that when I lived there. If you'd like, we can pm back and forth cause I don't necessairly want to air all my dirty laundry in front of 150000 ppl that will pass unnecessary judgement. My husband was my savior. We met when I was 16, moved in w him on my 18 birthday and married six months later. Had a beautiful baby a year later, a second four years after that and have been happily married(for the most part) all along. He understands everything I went through. It was important that I found someone who loved me regardless and never once passed judgement about all of my weirdness. Now I'm worried about my kids. Can I be a good mother with this mental condition? Can I raise my children to be "normal" if I myself am not? Can I avoid passing this problem on to them? It is a hard world to live in when you are normal, it's freakin impossible when you are not. Anyway, thanks for the response, I know exactly how you feel. I mean that. If ever you need to talk....

@spalladino (17891)
• United States
17 Nov 08
Maybe you should talk to our doctor about trying a different medication this time around. I'm not an expert on personality disorders but I am married to a man who has Post Traumatic Stress Disorder with depression and we have had several medication changes during the six years that he's been treated by a Psychiatrist. He started out doing well on Prozac but it stopped working after about two years so the doctor added another medication that made him feel numb. I can understand your hesitation to return to that. In my husband's case, we went back to his doctor and he was taken off of both medications and started on something else...which worked fairly well but made him very tired...so another med was added. We have to make adjustments about once a year but my rambling point is that, at least in my husband's case, it is possible to feel good and to function well on medication. It's my hope that there are medications for your condition that will work well for you but you need to be pro-active with your doctor and, if there are alternative meds, learn about them and give them a try. Good luck! 


@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
18 Nov 08
Spalladino has hit on such an important point, which is to keep talking to your doctor, and trying something different if needed.
I understand the feeling of not wanting to go -- I have that constantly whether for physical problems or routine check ups or anything, including depression or adhd. Keep up the good fight.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
17 Nov 08
I'm glad you have a supportive husband and I'm sure he knows just how special you are. I love my husband very much but I sometimes have to be a nag when I see him going downhill and he's not willing or able to do anything about it himself. Fortunately, he trusts me...something that isn't easy for him to do...and the V.A. lets me make appointments for him or talk to his doctors so I do understand the lack of motivation that comes with being in a down cycle.
I do understand that going back on your meds is a pain in the butt...and I wouldn't dream of nagging you in any way so please don't think that I am...but maybe after you go off of them again at some point in the future, while you're still feeling good, you might want to consider talking to your doctor then about making a change. Just something to keep in the back of your mind.
I will give my husband your message and please give yours a hug from me for being there for you.
@psspurgeon1 (1109)
• United States
17 Nov 08
I know I definitly need to talk to my doc. Unfortunately, with the disorder comes the lack of enthusiasm to talk to someone. The lack of willpower to follow through. I was supposed to be in counseling some time ago....He thinks I'm on my meds still....I will call, get a script, start taking them and go from there. It is such a pain in the but ya know... By the way, I'm really glad that you can be so supportive for your husband. It is not easy in any sence to deal with someone who has a mental disorder. Those of you that can and do (my husband being one of them) are just wonderful. It is really nice to know that there are ppl that are strong and loving and will just give all they can. Thank you for him from me... And thank you for your response...

@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
18 Nov 08
You should be the Mommy of the Year!! You sound like you really love those kids! How old are they?
Have you been on medication at all since they were born?
What kinds of meds will you be taking?
I just want to suggest some things for you to think about.
First, is it possible that the medications do not cause you to be robotic, but closer to "typical" and it just feels robotic and emotionless because you are used to widely fluctuating and intense emotions? I think this is a question you may not be able to answer by yourself. You might want to ask someone close to you, who has dealt with you both on and off medication, and who is insightful and thoughtful and can give you an honest opinion. I have severe ADHD and I've seen people with ADHD do that same thing. They improve while on medication, but they have the idea that it is not really "them", and they are stifled while on the meds. That is simply not true in the case of most ADHD. The medication helps the person to focus on the task and to finish their thought, but it doesn't interfere with their personality.
Many years ago, most medications for mental illness did cause personality changes, because for the most part, the meds were basically a type of tranquilizer.
That is not at all true of the meds that are mostly used today. The newer medications are based on newer info about the brain and generally just help to balance the chemicals that are naturally in the brain, but because of trauma or illness, or genetics have become unbalanced. Since these are naturally occurring chemicals that our brains need, they don't have such a heavy affect on changing us from who we are, but instead their effect is to allow us to really be who we are.
Now, they can cause sleepiness or a slight change in yourself at first, for a few weeks, but that is not so much the medication as the body adjusting to having the chemicals it has been lacking, or having less of what it had too much of. Once their body adjusts, the person is more than likely able to more fully be them self.
So I think this is something for you to consider and look into. Now, if your doctor is giving you old style medications, then you should consider changing to a doctor that is more up to date. Also, remember that sometimes you may have to have some adjustments in dosage or type, before you get the right/best help.
Another thing to think about is that if your moods are changing rapidly and without reason, that is not going to be very healthy for your children either. And especially if they are not old enough to know anything about your healt problems.
Maybe the same person(s) you can find to ask about how you are on meds vs how you are off meds, would also be willing to monitor you, so you will know if you are being robotic or if you are being exceptionally emotional.
If it turns out that you do tend to get more robotic on your meds, and all docs agree it is the right medication and the right dosage, then would it be helpful for you to make little reminder cards for you, so when you are talking to your child, you can check your reminders, for example, to remember what would be the better thing to say, or when to give a hug -- I'm not sure exactly what you are worried you won't do, so not sure what to suggest here, but hopefully you understand what I'm getting at.
Keep up on the latest research, as well. Things come out fast nowadays, and while you should not just jump onto every promised treatment, you should know about them all so you can discuss each with your doctor.
I've read that therapy and group therapy can be helpful for borderline personality disorder, also, along with medication -- do you participate in any therapy? Again if you do, and it doesn't help at all, then you may need to change therapists, or switch to group, or switch from group to private, etc.
And a group might be a very good place for you to get good feedback about how your are reacting to your children.
I hope you will update us.
You are to be commended for your dedication to your children. SO many mothers have so little dedication these days, even when they don't have half of what you have to deal with.



@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
18 Nov 08
Oops! I didn't read all the responses at first. I didn't realize you have such a wonderful, supportive husband! That should help a lot in keeping you stable, and also in finding out if you really are robotic.
I want to also tell you that you cannot do anything about genetics, as you know.
But it seems you have a pretty good life despite your illness, and you can give your children the strength and info to do the same, even if any or all of them end up with the same illness.
However, there is also an environmental factor to developing this disorder, from what I've read, and it looks like you had that environmental factor too.
Your children, however, do NOT have that factor. So while they may have the genetic component, perhaps the good and loving environment that you are providing them will protect them from genetics!
Remember, too, that love covers a multitude of sins. And it is so obvious to all of us that you dearly love those children, and so I am positive they know you love them. That will go a long, long ways in giving your children a good, happy, healthy life.
@tinkerick (1257)
• United States
17 Nov 08
Wow. My heart goes out to you. It has to be difficult to have such a condition and be a mother as well. You obviously are doing the best you can to be a good mother while keeping yourself in good health. Kudos to you!
As for your children, you are probably doing the best thing right now. But when they get a little older you may want to sit them down and explain your condition to them. Not just so they have a better understanding of why you are the way you are, but also so they understand there is the possibility of it happening to themselves. Being that it's probably a genetic thing, you'll want to warn them at least of the possibility. Hopefully it won't happen to them or their children. But a heads up is always a good thing.
Good luck, stay strong.
@psspurgeon1 (1109)
• United States
17 Nov 08
Oh it is. I would rather run through a sausage grinder than to cause any kind of pain or undue stress to my children. BTW I like your avatar, it reminds me of mine which is signifigant to me... I am grateful that I have insight on this situation in case my babies ever find themselves in a position to need help like this, I just hope I don't cause them to have a lifelong condition that they can't control. It just bothers me that I could be the cause of future pain for them. It bothers me that I could cause pain emotionally to them. How do I guard against something like this??? I can protect them from anything, but can I protect them from myself? My genetic defects?
@tinkerick (1257)
• United States
17 Nov 08
Tigers have always been close to my heart. I love their beauty and their strength. I feel like they are my animal spirit (although I can't say they are for sure). My oldest daughter seems to have the same taking to tigers, which makes for a nice thing to share with her.
I understand your concern for your children. But don't beat yourself up for what MIGHT happen in the future. You are doing all you can to protect your children for the time being, and that is commendable. When they are old enough to understand, I'm sure you will explain to the best of your ability, what is going on with yourself. This is all you really CAN do therefore no one can say you aren't doing enough.
You may feel that your condition is more traumatizing than other conditions, in reality it is very much like a mother passing on diabetes, cancer or other disease to her children. Any genetic illness carries with it an emotional burden that may or may not affect the child traumatically. Because you are strong and are dealing with your condition in the proper manner, your children, IF they were to develop the condition, should also do the same. You are, in fact, teaching them by simply doing.
Although I am not diagnosed with a condition like yours, I do have a genetic disease that could be passed on to any of my children. It's PKD (Polycystic Kidney Disease). Currently there is no cure, and it often ends in renal failure (total kidney failure). My oldest daughters are aware of what I have. Thankfully it does not drastically affect my lifestyle as of yet. I was lucky enough to have caught it early (most people don't even know they have it until the cysts start causing them pain - usually in their 40's). With the knowledge, comes the power to hopefully extend my life beyond what it would have been.
I respect you highly for your hardship, and for your strength in managing it. As I said before, don't let anyone ever tell you that you are not doing enough.
@psspurgeon1 (1109)
• United States
18 Nov 08
Thank you, you are very kind and very knowledgeable(sp?). The tigers for me symbolize my feelings as a mother. I feel like a tiger, just hovering and protecting. They really are wonderful creatures! I'm glad your daughter shares your love. It is nice when you find things along the line that makes you similar. It gives a strong foundation for a loving trusting relationship. I do understand your genetic condition and the feelings that come with it. I feel for you. Again, thank you for your words, they are taken to heart.
@besthope44 (12123)
• India
8 Oct 10
Well for depression, medicines are not solution. Do Meditation, try breathing exercise, it will help you balance and handle depression.






