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myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18785)   ranked 476 out of 26,919 in people 4 years ago

You would never think a bird could disable a plan but when it gets into the engines it can destroy it. In yesterday's crash the flock of birds got into both engines and the plane had to come down. Apparently the plane can fly if it still has one engine, but not with two damaged.

birds are responsible for over 200 known crashes so far,

http://www.newsday.com/ne...

the survivors were rescued from the freezing waters of the Hudson river,

some of them turned around and bored the next flight

1- Would you take another airplane after a disaster like that?

or what you take a train or bus to get to where you were going if you had the opportunity?

2 - even not being on that plane and hearing about it in the news would you take a plane now?

please give your reasons for or against taking planes,

 

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mtdewgurl74 (11320) response was accepted on 1/17/2009.
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1. myLot reputation of 99/100. mtdewgurl74 (11320)   ranked 4,438 out of 26,919 in people   4 years ago

Yeah we heard about this on the news me and my husband watches. The pilot done a amazing job setting that plane down just right so that it didn't break apart and drown anyone. 200, Wow that is a large amount. You would think they would have some kind of shields to make sure that the birds wouldn't fly into the engines. It would save alot of lives for sure since I am sure alot of people died with 200 crashes. I would be afraid to take another flight yeah but some couldn't help but to take it because they had to. Bet alot of lawsuits will pop up. I don't take planes but if I did I guess I would take next flight or a train or bus depending on the urgency of my business. Well, I guess it would be like falling off a horse/bike if you don't get up and do it again then your losing out on a enjoyable/faster time and you'd end up being afraid of it always.


myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18785)   ranked 476 out of 26,919 in people  4 years ago

you are absolutely right you got to do it again to let go of the fear.


myLot reputation of 99/100. mtdewgurl74 (11320)   ranked 4,438 out of 26,919 in people  4 years ago

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2. myLot reputation of 99/100. pergammano (3543)   ranked 1,474 out of 26,919 in people   4 years ago

Such a disaster! But can easily happen! I am all to familiar with all natural disasters that can disable a plane! My ex-husband, (my son's father) retired as a Senior Captain with Air Canada! His father Frank & Russ Baker started Central B.C. Airways in the late 40's, that became Pacific Western Airlines (PWA) that then became Canadian Pacific Airlines (CPA) which was swallowed up by the tax-payers nemisis; Air Canada! And, keeping with tradition; my son graduated as an Aircraft Engineer from B.C. Inst. of Technology! I have been surrounded by airplane talk for a long time! The Captain of that particular flight deserves all the accolades in the world! God Bless him! Just to clarify things, there are several airplanes that can fly on one engine (but there are several that cannot) this is done by configuring the airplane in a vertical position, dead engine pointing to the ground, good engine skyward holding the aircraft up! But landings are very complicated! With my gleened knowledge from a Captain & two engineers in the family...you betcha...I would fly again...and right away! The longer you stay away, the greater the trepidation becomes! Cheers!


myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18785)   ranked 476 out of 26,919 in people  4 years ago

yes you are absolutely right the only way to get rid of the fear is to fly again as soon as you can. Thanks for the info on the engines.

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3. myLot reputation of 95/100. CinderInMySoul (4337)   ranked 2,649 out of 26,919 in people   4 years ago

unbelievable isnt it? but what a great pilot to manage to put that plane down as well as he did, it could have been sooo much worse!

i dont think id get right back on a plane. but i would eventually. plane crashes arent that frequent when you compare them to the number of planes in the sky every single day.
id sure as hell be nervous when i finally did get back on a plane though!


myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18785)   ranked 476 out of 26,919 in people  4 years ago

yes plane crashes are not that frequent,

but the best way to get rid of a fear is to go right back and do it again.

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4. myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (24681)   4 years ago

That is a tough question. I guess I've probably flown enough that knowing that if I've been in one crash, I'm probably safe from a second crash. I don't know if I could get on another plane THAT DAY and do it, but if I HAD to be some place, I guess I would.

I guess its like falling off a horse, you have to get right back on it.


myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18785)   ranked 476 out of 26,919 in people  4 years ago

yes that is right it is like that, the only way to get rid of a fear is to go right back and do it.

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5. myLot reputation of 93/100. eeyore39 (3181)   4 years ago

You bet. In actuallity flying is the safest of all means of transportation available based on the numbers of people involved. Anyway I believe if my time is here than no matter what I am doing or where I am I am giving it up. So it doesn't make any difference. Might as well go in comfort and style and faster as well.


myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18785)   ranked 476 out of 26,919 in people  4 years ago

great attitude my friend.

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6. myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 327 out of 26,919 in people   4 years ago

That's really not true that if one engine of a plane is damaged that it can still fly...I saw taped videos of previous bird strikes..it showed a plane that had just taken off and only one bird struck into the one engine. The engine started to catch fire and disabled and the plane had to land again.
I live in the NYC area so this "Miracle on the Hudson" as they are calling it, was on the news all day and night and the flock of birds were Canada Geese which are pretty big birds.
I haven't flown in ages, but I loved flying when I did..in fact I was the only one in my family that ever did fly..my mother had a real panic/terror phobia about flying after she had experienced some flights with horrific turbulence. And as silly as this sounds, it STILL is one of my dreams to learn how to fly a plane myself...that's how much I feel in love with flying. Planes are actually much safer..there are more fatal car crashes than plane crashes. What I don't understand, is why they can't design and put a simple metal type grating in front of the engine that would prevent birds being sucked into the engine in the first place, since from what I saw in all the videos bird strikes are actually very common and happen all the time...


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 327 out of 26,919 in people  4 years ago

Oh as a personal note...LOL..for awhile there I was reading up on the technicalities of aviation so I do know the difference between a turn coordinator and altimeter..LOL


myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18785)   ranked 476 out of 26,919 in people  4 years ago

it depends on the plane, this is not stuff I got out of my head but the news report and a lady above who family in is the airforce explained it, depending on the plane, some will work with one engine and some won/t.


myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18785)   ranked 476 out of 26,919 in people  4 years ago

there are many sources on google that tell you that jetplanes can fly on one engine, here is just one source,

http://www.usatoday.com/educate/flight/page7.htm
you can look up the rest for yourself,

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7. myLot reputation of 78/100. suspenseful (19613)   ranked 998 out of 26,919 in people   4 years ago

Those darned birds! You just cannot trust them. They must be related to our Winnipeg birds. They do not fly off when you walk up to them, they just move to one side. lol Well if I were in a disaster, I would take the next plane. Why should a little water bother me. Besides I would have had to save money for the trip and I would not waste it.
But who is going to pay for my ruined luggage? sad


myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18785)   ranked 476 out of 26,919 in people  4 years ago

the birds will pay you for your ruined luggage


myLot reputation of 78/100. suspenseful (19613)   ranked 998 out of 26,919 in people  4 years ago

I was imagining those birds as the ones on Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds flapping around, charging at the plane, beaks open, trying to peck the pilot's eyes out, but the safety glass is stopping them. He makes a valiant effort, dives into the Hudson to escape, they follow - and all those birds are in the bottom of the river. I suppose the luggage of the passengers are at the bottom of the Hudson. sad

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8. myLot reputation of 98/100. mobhomeir (2119)   ranked 36 out of 26,919 in people   4 years ago

If it would be an urgent that I need to go even after a mishap, I think I must but not on the same kind of vehicle. Like what you said a plane crash, if I survived unscratched then I proceed on my destination but I think not yet on an airplane cause I guess my phobia or my trauma would still there, I would just for other means but not on an airplane yet...thanks


myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18785)   ranked 476 out of 26,919 in people  4 years ago

that is if you can take other means, what if you absolutely cannot get home without taking a plane.

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9. myLot reputation of 92/100. underdogtoo (8736)   ranked 4,221 out of 26,919 in people   4 years ago

I have heard of birds causing plane crashes. Jet planes are especially in danger because they could crash into the jet intakes.


myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18785)   ranked 476 out of 26,919 in people  4 years ago

would you take the plane again right away if you survived a crash or would you see if there was other means to get you where you needed to go.

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10. myLot reputation of 94/100. stephcjh (27638)   ranked 987 out of 26,919 in people   4 years ago

I had seen this in a couple of other discussions as well. That is very scary what a bird can do to a plane. I am scared of flying anyway. I have flown a few times but I am still scared of it.


myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18785)   ranked 476 out of 26,919 in people  4 years ago

I have only had the opportunity to fly once in my life.

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