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myLot reputation of 99/100. ahgong (3967)   ranked 14 out of 4,345 in have discussion on day to day issues 3 years ago

There is always a catch. Always a catch!

Recently, the local papers are reporting all the hype over the local transport companies' reduction of 2 cents across the board for fares.
And how the poor companies are having to absorb the losses to the tune of tens of millions of dollars, which is more than what the government is subsidizing them for other factors like road taxes and fuel taxes.

And a lot of people are not aware, the cuts are infact an increase in the cost of transport for majority of commuters who rely on the public transport to bring them around.

Everytime they make an announcement of something, there is always a catch.
Imagine, on the front, it looks like there is a decrease. But on the whole, they gained more than the decrease they are giving!
Refer to the attached picture.

Imagine, for a single transfer trip, one is gonnar be paying on average of more than $0.10 per trip!

So much for the losses they are gonna incure. More like the millions they are gonna gain is more than the losses they are gonna be incurring.

I sure hope that more people calculate the changes to the fare structure like the author in the attached letter do. This is out right deception!


Fare adjustment? Really?
 

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tags:  fare, ahgong, cost, cuts, deception
 
1. myLot reputation of 95/100. kun2349 (10498)   ranked 462 out of 4,345 in have discussion on day to day issues   3 years ago

I'm not able to see the breakdown in the attached picture, clearly.. hehe ^_^ But anyway, in singapore, everything happens for a cause, and whatever is opened to public, often are seem and deemed to be in the interest of us.. But actually, it's more beneficial for the government instead.. lol =D Like the saying, there's no free lunch in the world.. lol =D

So, in times in recession, what makes u/me think that our government is willing to make a further loss when its already dipping into our reserves?? lol =D It's common sense, right??

Anyway, i dun care much about public transports because i will choose to walk whenever i can, and they can do whatever they want, for all i care.. lol =D After all, in singapore, whatever goes up, will never come down.. And even if in this case here, transport fares decrease, but there are other things that are increasing on the silence.. lol =D


myLot reputation of 99/100. ahgong (3967)   ranked 14 out of 4,345 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

Think of it this way. We used to have a 25 cents rebate for single trip transfer between the different modes of transport.
Now, the first transfer will only rebate 14 cents.
That already we lose 11 cents in rebates when we only need to do ONE transfer. Which is usually the case.

How many people you know makes more than three transfers in a one way trip to work?

To me, this is deception at its ultimate!

The other one peeve I got is the percentage they announced. 2 cents equals a 4.6% DISCOUNT.
Now think of it mathematically. 4.6% = 2 cents
That would mean that 100% = 43.48 cents.
Where in Singapore did you manage to find a fare that is less than 50 cents today?

Even based on the cheapest fare on the list, which is 73 cents, the percentage discount should read 2.7%, not 4.6% as reported.

If this is not a balant case of deception, I dunno what is!


myLot reputation of 95/100. kun2349 (10498)   ranked 462 out of 4,345 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

Oh.. NOw i get what u really mean here.. hehe ^_^ IN a way, we are actually paying more than before and even though it's stated that we are paying less.. What's brought up by the government is only on the general point of view and hoping that we will just accept..

If that's the case, i will rather not want the 'adjustment' in fares and prefer things to remain as it is now.. Futhermore, it's pretty ridiculous to keep changing and doing of transfers in order to 'qualify' for the reduction of fares.. lol =D


myLot reputation of 99/100. ahgong (3967)   ranked 14 out of 4,345 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

Precisely!
Imagine, every commute to work is an additional 11 cents. Two trips a day is 22 cents.
Even with the reduction in fares across the board, we are still paying more per trip!
If this is their kind of reduction to help us, I rather they don't help!


myLot reputation of 95/100. kun2349 (10498)   ranked 462 out of 4,345 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

YEah.. Let's boycott public transport!!! lol =D


myLot reputation of 99/100. ahgong (3967)   ranked 14 out of 4,345 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

If I can afford to, I would!
Imagine, the so call discount is like a slap in the face!

And only now then I realised, that I am actually paying more to get home when I go home at certain timing!
angry

I am still peeved.
Looking and reading about the new transfer rebate structure, we are still paying more per trip even with three transfers.

Look, in the past, when you do a transfer from say a feeder bus to the LRT. And then from the LRT to the MRT. And then another feeder to the factory that you work in in the industrial estates.
That would mean three transfers of 25 cents each, capped at 40 cents max for that time period that you are travelling in.
So, you get the full 40 cents rebates for the three transfers you do.
Now, for the same trip, you only get up to 38 cents in transfer rebates. You are actually paying 2 cents more! Where is the discounts then?

Sigh... hard to illustrate what I am trying to say. I wonder if I can still find the different fare sructure of the current fares to show you what I mean.


myLot reputation of 95/100. kun2349 (10498)   ranked 462 out of 4,345 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

Yeah, i do get what u are talking about.. I guess the best way is to write in to the papers and 'shoot' the government directly.. lol =D if not, find the MPs for help.. hehe ^_^


myLot reputation of 99/100. ahgong (3967)   ranked 14 out of 4,345 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

Forget it lah. They help?
By the time they remember to read my letter for help, it is time for the next round of "Fares Review" liow loh!

Waste of my bloody time!

Just recently, I came across the new article of how one MP is telling people that if we want free transport, the GST must be raised by 1.5%. Cos that is the amount of money needed to run the bus and trains services in Singapore.
If that MP can really get the government to force the bus and trains companies to give us free transport, I certainly wouldn't mind an increase of 1.5% in GST.
Cos to me, it is still cheaper on the whole.

Problem is will the MP do it? NATO!

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2. myLot reputation of 93/100. eeyore39 (3181)   3 years ago

We have deception and lies because people are to lazy or stupid or trusting to do it themselves. Just as you have pointed out its right there in black and blue. Figure and see if the facts are true. How many will do it?? Probably you and a couple others who are truly concerned about what is being sold to us the public.


myLot reputation of 99/100. ahgong (3967)   ranked 14 out of 4,345 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

And the worst part of it is, we cannot do anything about it!
Talk about being strong armed into something!
angryangryangry

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3. myLot reputation of 100/100. arkaf61 (5809)   ranked 461 out of 4,345 in have discussion on day to day issues   3 years ago

It's never to our benefit no matter how carefully they phrase it to make it look like it is.
I keep telling people not to take things at face value, because there is no free lunch.
As soon as I see anything that says " for your convenience ..." or "for your benefit..." I know I'm going to be angry, because it's never for my anything.
Discounts are never discounts. Decrease in prices is never decrease in prices - not to me or the general public it isn't -. |Things done for my convenience are always in fact for their own.
We need to really remember " Nothing is done for us or for our benefit, unless it suits their political/economical agenda, and in that case only while it does".


myLot reputation of 99/100. ahgong (3967)   ranked 14 out of 4,345 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

Yeah... sigh.
Sad, isn't it?

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