Could Jim Cramer's comment destroy the US stock market?

United States
March 14, 2009 5:49pm CST
To start off with, I really like Jim, I like his show, I like how he thinks, and I like his attitude. I don't care about his personal opinion about Barack, or his fight with Jon, he is who he is and that is what everyone loves about him. But, on the Jon Stewart show they unearthed an interview detailing how the US stock market "game" is played (most of us who understand the market already knew this, but for those of you who didn't: Welcome to reality). he explained how he would short sell (bet against a stock from going up) a stock, then make up a story about how bad the stock was doing, or talk up one of it's competitors, so his fund could make money. The problem with him coming out and explaining this to the world is: Who will trust him, or anyone talking to you about stocks? If you look at your 401K statement (give it about a month from now), and see how much money you have lost, how many Americans will pull their money out of the "game". Does this change your idea of how our stock market works, and does it change your investments in the stock market, or your 401K?
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@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
15 Mar 09
Lol, I have always known that the stock market is similar to the lottery. I thought it was a rather bad move to force people to have their retirement investments in 401ks. In essence this was rather intentional. Once it was a requirement the stock market had unprecedented gains. Right now, it's one of the few things that keeps it going. After all, companies and their employees still pay into 401ks. Will the general public's trust deteriorate because of those comments? Well, you putting an awful lot of value on people having watched him make that comment in the first place. Not that many people watch that program. Of those who do, the majority already knew this anyway, lol. Yes, the stock market is a 'game' but one you can still make gains with. I have a Masters in Finance. I have no problem playing the game (so, no, those marks didn't change my opinion) I told people to get out when I saw the signs on the horizon. I really wish I'd have the money to buy right now. There are some solid shares to be had at a bargain. By the time I'd retire, the market will have recovered and I'd have made a good chunk of money. At least the 401ks will have gains at that point buying low right now. At least Obama has finally figured out that he needs to stop talking gloom and doom about the economy to get his legislation through. People don't invest in doom and gloom like we need it right now.
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• United States
15 Mar 09
Jonesy, did you hear what Jim had to say? He was open and honest about what REALLY happens in the stock market. He discussed ways that he used to manipulate the system to make money, and use newspapers, research papers, networks, and brokers to scam the system. Seeing how you have a Masters in Finance, I am sure I am not telling you something new, but how many of your friends, or co-workers really know about this? If they did would they still put money in their 401K? And, if they didn't could the market survive all of that money flying out of the market durning our current economic state?
@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
15 Mar 09
As I said before, in the grand scheme of television shows not too many people really watch that show and most those who do know more about how things work anyway. He is not the first one to explain those things in detail and on television btw. You can also find it in the investment sections of newspapers. Funny thing is, most people don't pay much attention either when things like that are explained. This would have gone unnoticed as well, if not somebody from the Obama admin would have made a comment about it. That much for causing a panic, lol. If people would rush to pull money out of their 401ks or would stop putting money into it, that would be a problem. That's already a problem for the market right now. Too many small-time investors, who had everything to lose, put their hard-earned money in the market wanting to reap the big returns. When they started to lose money, they pulled out what they could; by now making things worse than they really should have been. Anyhow, a lot of people have already stopped or reduced their contributions to the 401ks in order to have more money in their paychecks to be able to pay their monthly bills. A lot of people are also already to the point that they take money out of their 401ks. Those who still put money in are those who can. There are different reasons for that such as complacence. They have always done it and won't change their habit. Then there are those who know about dollar averaging and that what goes in now will be worth more in the future. Most shifted stuff into money market funds within their 401k to keep what they have already accumulated somewhat safe. And there are those, who think they have no choice, it's mandated (ignorance is a bliss). And yes, there are those who took everything out of the market and the banks and stuffed it under the mattress. They do exist. Quite frankly, by now those people who would panic due to a remark like that already did, when they saw their last two 401k statements, watching the market decline and decline. They probably did what they felt was right, even if it would be a knee-jerk reaction of taking everything out and not contributing anymore. They also would have taken everything out of IRAs and Roth-IRAs. An all out panic would make things really bad. But I think investmentwise people have reacted worse than they should have and I think those who would panic listening to that remark already did long before it was made. The stock market has not quite hit bottom yet, but it is not far from it. And it will recover unless it is put away with, which is a doubtful thing to happen;) As to my friends, co-workers, etc. They are reasonable people. They didn't panic yet. It's doubtful they would panic due to listening to something like that. What most people don't understand is that the stock market tends to create value bubbles. They lack the understanding that a lot of the value is perception based and often not all that real. A lot of research has to be done to find value investments. So called hot tips are usually cold fairly quickly. If you want to invest in the market you have to be in it for the long haul. You have to put money into it that you can afford to lose so to speak. It's money you don't need, not now anyway. One definitely should not invest one's life savings into the stock market;)
@snowy22315 (208819)
• United States
15 Mar 09
I think Cramer is entertaining but like Jon Stewart put it money these days is a serious matter. I think that there are problems with the stock market and Cramer may have something to do with giving some bad advice. It is difficult to know what to do with today's economy and the problems it is creating for people.
• United States
15 Mar 09
Cramer's remarks won't destroy the stock market. Most people didn't even understand what him and Stewart were talking about. My 401 has gone down 24 percent in the last year, but that's ok. I have plenty of time for it to come back.