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Can you be a Christian and still think being gay is okay? email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 51/100. katran (321)   ranked 699 out of 9,721 in religion8 months ago

I realize that this is a controversial topic, and that is why I am starting it, to be honest. I have tried as much as possible to not take a side in this argument, because it is difficult for me. I come from a very religious Christian family that has very strong beliefs about what is right and wrong, yet I, like most American children, have grown up in a world where I have had gay friends and have seen the homosexual lifestyle become more and more accepted. For the longest time I sided with my family and firmly believed that being gay was wrong and society should agree. However, more recently my mind has started to change. Part of the reason I started thinking about it was because of this letter:

http://www.humanistsofutah.org/2002/WhyCantIOwnACanadian_10-02.html

The letter brings up some very good points. There are lots of things that the Bible says are wrong or that the Bible says are right that we do not follow anymore. The reason is because Jesus told us that the most important commandments were to love God and love each other, and he freed us from the notion that we have to follow all those laws that God gave to the Jewish people. So why have we chosen to agree the eating pork is now okay and that we don't have to be circumcised anymore, and yet we have kept the notion that homosexuality is an "abomination"? It seems to me like that should be something to think about.

I still don't know where I stand on this issue, but I can tell you that I think it is blatantly un-Christian of a person to not show love to everyone, including homosexuals. Wouldn't you agree?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 22/100. kennyrose (4061)   ranked 6,903 out of 9,721 in religion   8 months ago

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myLot reputation of 91/100. uath13 (3857)   ranked 281 out of 9,721 in religion  8 months ago

Seriously with mankind overrunning the world so we still need to multiply?


myLot reputation of 51/100. katran (321)   ranked 699 out of 9,721 in religion  8 months ago

I hear what you are saying, Kennyrose. I try to obey God as much as I can. I agree with you that there is something strange about two men or two women being together. A study of biology can tell you that much. But is the Biblical version of marriage really one man and one woman? How many men that are talked about in the Bible had only one wife? It seems like the Biblical version of marriage is one man and many women or one man and many women and a bunch of concubines. Yet people seem to think that having multiple wives and extramarital relations is wrong. How do you explain that one?

All I am saying is that maybe it is not as cut and dried as people make it sound. Maybe we need to think about it a little more.


myLot reputation of 86/100. Ravenladyj (18001)   ranked 123 out of 9,721 in religion  8 months ago

It seems like the Biblical version of marriage is one man and many women or one man and many women and a bunch of concubines

WOW now THATS a very good point ot bring up!

can the couple be fruitful and multiply in the sense of bring children in to this world by their own egg and sperm,no they can not do this in a million years

i'm sorry but that argument holds NO WATER WHATSOEVER...Why? becuase there are PLENTY of couples out there (hetero couples) who CAN'T "be fruitful and multiply" due to various medical reasons...

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2. myLot reputation of 97/100. meiteoh (344)   ranked 2,218 out of 9,721 in religion   8 months ago

Love the sinner, hate the sin - that's what I believe in.

I believe in the freedom of choice and free will which is what God gave us and that I have no right to force my beliefs and choices on another human being since God never did the same to me.

And before you ask - I'm a Christian and my views (the above) have landed me in hot soup with my peers in my church. Lets just say that NO ONE speaks to me at all these days (in fact, none of them realized that I have migrated to Switzerland - one thought that I was still in Malaysia even though I left early last year) but they have no problems trying to get on the good side of my hubby whom they see as a "potential person to save".


myLot reputation of 66/100. celticrogue (371)   ranked 1,465 out of 9,721 in religion  8 months ago

I really like your answer in the second paragraph.

I, too, am Christian, and believe as you do. God gave us a free will. We have the freedom of choice - to believe or not believe. We cannot force our views onto anyone. I live in the USA, our constitution is written to emphasize that - we have the freedom of religion, freedom from the state forcing us to worship in a state-approved religion.

Some people think that since Jesus called upon us to spread the good news, and preach to others, that they now that the right to ram their beliefs down our throats, which will drive more people away than convert them.

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3. myLot reputation of 94/100. runner0369 (479)   ranked 483 out of 9,721 in religion   8 months ago

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4. myLot reputation of 67/100. Adoniah (2675)   ranked 703 out of 9,721 in religion   8 months ago

People tend to pick and choose what they want to do and what they want to believe in. Even the ones who say that every word of the Bible is the Word of G'd! It stems from their free will I guess.

If you read Leviticus 18.1-30, you will find that the Lord gave a preface and a conclusion when He told the Israelites what not to do in reference to sexual habits. He did not just say do not do this, He explained why they should not do these things.

There were two reasons. One He did not want the Israelites to act like the pagans: the Egyptians and the Canaanites, and two, He considered the acts to be wrong. In His conclusion, He said the land "vomited up" the Canaanites from the land because of their bad actions.

However, as Jews we are also taught not to discriminate against anyone. Homosexuals are a part of our congegation. Their children attend our schools. No one discriminates against them. Discrimination is also against G'd's law. It is a very difficult issue best left between the Lord and the person. It is no one else's business.

Shalom~Adoniah

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5. Mr_Schitzo (70)   8 months ago

I love eveyone when i am on my meds.

(except Poles)

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6. myLot reputation of 97/100. Polly1 (8481)   ranked 479 out of 9,721 in religion   8 months ago

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myLot reputation of 75/100. cmofi123 (182)   ranked 4,600 out of 9,721 in religion  8 months ago

I'm with you on that. We are all sinners one or aother.


myLot reputation of 86/100. Ravenladyj (18001)   ranked 123 out of 9,721 in religion  8 months ago

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myLot reputation of 97/100. Polly1 (8481)   ranked 479 out of 9,721 in religion  8 months ago

Thank you.

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7. myLot reputation of 75/100. cmofi123 (182)   ranked 4,600 out of 9,721 in religion   8 months ago

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myLot reputation of 51/100. katran (321)   ranked 699 out of 9,721 in religion  8 months ago

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8. myLot reputation of 73/100. CremeAndSugar (449)   ranked 1,795 out of 9,721 in religion   8 months ago

I do agree. I don't remember being taught in Sunday School to love my neighbor as I love myself only if the neighbor was heterosexual. Some people seem to concentrate on hate just as much as they can, don't they?

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9. myLot reputation of 66/100. celticrogue (371)   ranked 1,465 out of 9,721 in religion   8 months ago

I very much agree. Jesus preached that our Father wanted us to love each other as we loved ourselves. And this goes very deep - we love ourselves very deeply especially during tough times - wars, economic recessions/depressions, legal desputes in our communities,etc. We are always out to protect ourselves, then loved ones. So, being a Christian, calls us to love and respect everyone.

I agree that the letter brings up some very good points. Most of God's laws outlined in Leviticus are approprite when starting a new culture with religion and you want to make sure that the culture survives. You set it up so that you do not do want neighboring cultures do. Dietary laws are such to protect your people, especially in ancient times when the understanding of diseases was more mystical than fact. You outline laws to make sure there is peace within families so that families can come together to put together society. And that society will work together.

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10. myLot reputation of 95/100. ronaldinu (7779)   ranked 201 out of 9,721 in religion   8 months ago

According to my knowledge Jesus loves everybody despite our sexual orientation. Most homosexuals do not chose this lifestyle but its the way they are born. They did not choose to become one. The Catholic Church calls for a life of purity from homosexuals. I think that we should be charitable and love everybody despite their sexual orientation.

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