Huffington Post Article Attacks Palin's Son Trig  |
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A lot of people are dismissing the idea that Sarah Palin might have resigned to save her family from the attacks they have suffered in the media but this article that was published in the Huffington Post is an example of just how low some of these people will sink.
The post, which was pulled off the site after it was discovered by the Free Republic, is entitled "Palin Will Run in '12 on More Retardation Platform". In the article, the author, Erik Sean Nelson, who is a regular contributor to the Huffington Post, shamelessly makes fun of everyone from Down's syndrome children to Wal-Mart greeters.
You can read the text of the article here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2285113/posts
If this article had been written by a conservative about a liberal politician or their family, there would have been a major outcry and a call for his firing at the very least. I don't know why this attack on a minority (developmentally disabled) is not labeled a hate crime.
Most importantly, it shows what depths of despicable behavior some on the left are capable of sinking to in order to attack Sarah Palin and her family. To go after the tiniest of them, and the least capable of defending himself - a baby - is the lowest form of cowardice I can imagine.
Can anyone tell me why this man should not be fired? Will those on the left speak out against this or will they find a way to excuse it?
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1. bdugas (2422) | 5 months ago | I agree he should be fired, I do believe after the Letterman remark, she decided to gt out of public office to save her family, but you don't think that is going to stop them from trashing her. This person that can only make remarks about a baby is the lowest of life form and I think he should be fired and banned from ever being able to write for anyone again. I play cards in a site where in the lobby some who can't get attention any other way, make rude remarks about the people's kids. I can only imagine if this is what they do in print, what their real home lives are like. You are right it takes a coward to pick on a child. It is a shame that there is people out there so cruel that they would make a woman quit her job, I hope that she finds something even more better than the governor's job.I think that all of Washington is scared of her, and what she would do for the people if she got in, I truly hope she runs in 2010 she will have my vote.
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Rollo1 (1490) | 5 months ago | If they weren't afraid of her, it makes no sense to spend so much time trying to discredit her. I think the point is to try to discredit and embarrass her so much that people will never take her seriously. This kind of article though, HAS to make people see that she's not just paranoid, these guys are fighting dirty.
I haven't heard anyone call for his resignation or for his firing. I am waiting to see who will defend this cowardly attack.
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debrakcarey (1228) | 5 months ago | I posted on the media bias against Sarah Palin a few days ago. I cited the fact that the very liberal National Organization of Women paid big bucks to get Don Imus fired for his poor choice of words (if they can say Letterman's joke was only a poor choice, why can't I say the same for Imus?)...but said not one word of condemnation concerning Letterman's 'joke' about the deflowering of a 14 year old child. R*p* is no joking matter to most women!
N.O.W. is supposedly a media watchdog that claims to protect the rights of women in the public sector. Yet they would not come to the forefront to defend a woman govenor and her daughter. We hear how much the liberals are for the downtrodden and the vulnerable....social WELFARE programs are their favorite pastime...but a 14 year old child and now an disabled infant are fair game for the hatefulness running rampant in our society against conservatives.
It has passed idiocy and is quickly entering insanity. The dogs have been let loose...it merely saddened our president that a soldier outside a government building is murdered by a terrorist (an act of war!)....yet our President is OUTRAGED that an abortionist is murdered in church. While I was outraged at the murder of the abortionist as well...no one had the right to take his life...I am equally, if not more outraged that an American soldier can be killed in an open act of war on OUR SOIL...and it only saddens the president...and goes unnoticed by most of the country. INSANITY!
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bdugas (2422) | 5 months ago | Well this is what our society is coming to, it is not only going on here, but the game rooms that I play in on here. Once someone get piss*ed at someone else they start making remarks about the kids. And saying they should die. I can not believe what our society is becoming. I think Obama is saddened by a lot of things that he should be more concerned about what is happening in this world of ours here at home instead of beating a path overseas every chance he gets. I think he should of made a statement that what Letterman said was uncalled for and that it would not be tolerated by the tv shows and news and mags or what ever. I think Letterman should of been repremaned for the remark and this guy that wrote the article making fun of her baby should of been fired. As long as we sit back and let them get away with what they saying, when it involves a child they will do it.
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2. milkmaid (345) | 5 months ago | Is it tasteless and taking one phrase out of context? Yes.
Was it tagged as comedy news? Yes.
Does that excuse it? No. But some comedians (and apparently some writers) make their jokes by doing exactly this with people in the public eye. Nothing new in that. Look at Rush Limbaugh, he has a successful career based on his ability to vilify those he does not agree with.
Where was the outrage over Rush's comments about Elizabeth Edwards- that John only cheated on her because he wanted a woman that could do something with her mouth other than talk? That is demeaning to marriage, intelligent women, and wives. But I didn't hear anyone from the right screaming that it was cowardly and calling for Rush's firing.
Huffington Post was right to pull the article. That's enough.
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Rollo1 (1490) | 5 months ago | It's worse than tasteless. Think about it, is a comment about a grown woman the same as one about a baby? Do you think that all Down's syndrome people and all mothers of Down's syndrome children will say "this is okay, it was only a joke". Aren't the liberals supposed to be more politically correct than the conservatives they practice their sharp wit on?
Just can't admit that this is over-the-top. Have to point out that once upon a time a conservative said something nasty about someone. There is always an excuse.
Sorry, babies with disabilities aren't acceptable fodder for political comedy. Not funny.
And they only pulled the article after someone pointed out to them that it was vile and disgusting.
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milkmaid (345) | 5 months ago | Rollo, I think you need to read what I posted a little more carefully. I did not say it was excusable- in fact, I said the opposite.
Are you taking the stance that all women who have unfaithful husbands deserve whatever criticism they get? That it is justified because of their age? Does that also extend to Mrs. Sanford, or Mrs. Craig? Or is it just that Elzabeth Edwards is the wife of a Democrat, so that makes it okay?
By the logic that there is a difference between insulting an adult, and insulting a child, is it then okay to mock an adult with Downs?
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Rollo1 (1490) | 5 months ago | Okay, here's the thing. The discussion has nothing to do with Rush Limbaugh. You've assumed somewhere along the line that what Rush Limbaugh said some time ago (something I never heard anyway since I don't listen to Rush) has some magical healing quality that equalizes the bad and neutralizes the poison.
The logic that you use escapes me totally. Now you want to turn it into a discussion about what jokes should or could be made about adults with Down's syndrome... huh?
Saying that because some person made a joke about some Democrat's wife once is an excuse for someone else ridiculing a developmentally disabled baby because it's all comedy, is a lot like saying that I knew someone who littered once, and that's against the law, so I guess it's okay for me to murder someone, cause it's all about the law.
It would be possible for me to say that Rush's comment was vulgar and uncalled for without qualifying that by mentioning that Jay Leno told a joke about some Republican so it was okay. In fact, I had never heard this comment by Rush, as I said, but it's pretty vile. I think Elizabeth Edwards had some wacky ideas but I would prefer to attack her policies than her personal life. So, Rush's comment was wrong, tasteless, vulgar and unnecessarily so, without qualification.
All I wanted to know was if any liberal would come in and denounce this despicable attack on a baby without making any excuses for it. I guess the answer is no, they won't.
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milkmaid (345) | 5 months ago | And Huffington Post went farther than whatever station puts Limbaugh on the air, didn't they? And let's not pretend that Limbaugh made a comment one time and Democrats are holding a grudge- he makes it a point to insult whatever Dem is in the news on a daily basis.
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milkmaid (345) | 5 months ago | Pretty obviously, you are hearing what you want to hear from what I post. I will refrain from wasting anymore of my time.
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Rollo1 (1490) | 5 months ago | You're still talking about Limbaugh... I can read just fine.
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3. clrumfelt (1607) | 5 months ago | I don't think people will be laughing at the hateful "jokes" he made in the article. He will probably take a lot of heat, even from the left. He should be fired.
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Rollo1 (1490) | 5 months ago | The author put in a little apology in which he said he got letters from some "loved ones of the retarded" and they thought it was hurtful so he decided to pull it. Great, but I think he already knew that at least one loved one of the retarded was also going to be unnecessarily offended in a way that reflects not in any way on her politics but only on her personal life and uses a child to make a poor joke.
I would certainly not let this guy post on my website again without first proofreading his posts before publication. This was a serious lack of judgment and very unfunny.
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4. kennyrose (4004) | 5 months ago | The person that wrote these insults about Gov Palin in the Huffington post minutes after the Gov announced she is resigning is a evil liberal left wing axle to the Obama's,he removed the article after he was contacted by the outraged public. Left wing liberals are filthy immoral creatures they stand for nothing wholesome or good and nothing what so ever is off limits. I don't care who or when anyone in the media said bad things about any politicians child/children people in all parties,women,men,young and old should had stood up united against it.
Huffington Post I wrote a piece making fun of the fact that a Trig Palin joke was given as the reason that Sarah Palin left office. I wrote jokes that were offensive but my intent was for them to be ironic and therefore not offensive. I was wrong. Within ten minutes of my post I received some emails from the loved ones of the retarded and I saw that my piece was hurtful. Therefore, I removed the post right after receiving the first 2 emails.
I removed it immediately because I saw that it did not come across as I intended. I apologize to all of those who were offended.
Huffington Post...
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anniepa (9079) | 5 months ago | How that writer could possibly have not known his article would be offensive is beyond my comprehension but I'm glad he removed it quickly. Rose, go ahead and call HIM all the names you wish, that's fine, he "earned" it. But for you to write, "Left wing liberals are filthy immoral creatures they stand for nothing wholesome or good and nothing what so ever is off limits," is as bad as what he wrote. I know that as far as you're concerned I'M a "left wing liberal" and I can assure you I'm not filthy or immoral and none of my friends and relatives who would also meet your criteria for "left wing liberals" are either. Annie
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Rollo1 (1490) | 5 months ago | He wrote an apology but there's a certain mean-spiritedness that one must suffer in order to consider writing this in the first place. There are many Down's syndrome people in the world, adults too, who hold jobs and succeed despite their challenges. To ridicule them is unconscionable.
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spicysweetie21 (1244) | 5 months ago | I came back to this discussion, I hadn't read your response before Kennyrose, but I read it now and like annie said, I too am a 'left wing liberal" but if i ever met this guy who wrote this on the street, I would give him hell and rip him a new one because I have a best friend who has Down Syndrome, so how can you back up your blanket stereotypes now?
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5. anniepa (9079) | 5 months ago | If anyone finds a way to excuse this, they're the one who are "mentally challenged"! It's shameless and indefensible and the writer should certainly be fired. I'm not sure if those who contribute articles to the Huffington Post are actually employees of the Huffington Post or if they just submit articles whenever they write them. Whatever the case, articles like this have no place on any site, in my opinion. I hope there is an outcry about it but this is a holiday weekend so it may take a few days for that to happen. I hope Arianna Huffington officially denounces this writer and this article and I feel confident she will.
Annie
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Rollo1 (1490) | 5 months ago | Thank you, Annie. I confess I do not know either whether the contributors at HuffPo are actually employees or if they just post their articles. However, if this guy wrote for my website, I would at the very least ask to see the articles he writes for pre-approval before publishing. He wrote an apology but there's obviously a little gap in his understanding of how far is too far. There's no place in the press for articles that deride and ridicule the disabled.
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anniepa (9079) | 5 months ago | Rollo, I agree completely, if I had a website and this guy submitted something for publication it would first be looked over with a fine too comb IF I'd even give it any consideration at all. There are so many of these internet blog sites or whatever they're actually called these days and I have no idea how each of them actually operate. I know I've seen several people on various TV shows who have been introduced as "Huffington Post contributors" and I've found some of them to be intelligent and thoughtful and others haven't been as much to my liking. I think that can probably be said about any of these types of sites.
I really can't understand how anyone could have found humor in that article to begin with and I'm one of those evil liberals. I appreciate irony and satire as much as anyone but this isn't either, it's mean and vile and has no place anywhere. Annie
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Rollo1 (1490) | 5 months ago | Arianna Huffington is a well-known and prominent force in politics and her site shouldn't have this kind of stuff on it. Satire and spoof, even if it's a bit edgy or mean is to be expected when it's aimed at adults. But I do hope she is careful in the future about this writer, he will damage her reputation.
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grammasnook (1257) | 5 months ago | Will stand by my belief what goes around comes around! I have worked with many down syndrome inividuals and I will only say this they are labeled as being mentally challenged and I believe this is so wrong for them. They have the ability to love unconditionally ( most do) They have the true happiness to life. They know right from wrong, they have dreams and can obtain them. They can do things that a "regular person" can not do. In my honest opinion they are true genuses that are not able to put it all together.
Remembers when I was teaching a young child with down syndrome his name was David he was only three years old. We were doing the ABC's he could not say then right, but he did so oh ya can you do this? He recited them backwards!!! Well I can not do that so does that make mentally challenged? They can figure things out that you and I could never figure out. PERHAPS THEY JUST DONT UNDERSTAND THE EASY THINGS IN LIFE! They are more complex and we can not figure it out because WE are actually the mentally challenged.
I SAY FIRE THE JERK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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irishidid (3008) | 5 months ago | I spent my summers as a teenager working with the parks and recreation department at a summer day camp for special needs kids. It was a wonderful and rich experience. It also prepared me for my, then unknown, special child of my own.
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Rollo1 (1490) | 5 months ago | I agree with both of you, gramma and irish. Down's syndrome children have wonderful personalities and abilities. Who would know this more than a mother of a Down's syndrome child? Sarah Palin said that Trig teaches her life lessons and I am sure that he does. To take that statement and try to twist it into something hateful has to be very painful for a mother. I don't blame her for wanting to step away from this media blitz of insults to her children. Mothers are naturally protective of their children, and how much more so if their children need more protection than others?
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anniepa (9079) | 5 months ago | I've also known a number of children and adults with Downs Syndrome as well as autism and I agree, these people are "special" in a good way. They do have things to offer that the rest of us don't.
My problem whenever there's a topic like this is when a poster like kennyrose says things to the effect that "everyone" on the left is evil, immoral, hateful or whatever other words are thrown around all the time. Anyone who would make cruel jokes or attack, mock or "make fun of" someone like little Trig is full of ignorance and mean-spirited cruelty, NOBODY thinks that any more than I do! However, no matter what any of our views are about political issues or people in politics, there are those from both sides who are ignorant and cruel. Because some liberals or some conservatives say or do some indefensible things doesn't mean ALL within that group are like that. I may be a liberal but I'm not evil, immoral or mean-spirited and I sure don't agree with attacking little kids! Annie
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spicysweetie21 (1244) | 5 months ago | Rollo, Irish, and Annie are so right in the fact that people with Down Syndrome are extaordinary people, and they are also in many ways like us. My very close friend with DS has all of the same interests in wanting to dress good, and she is trying to have a long relationship and thinking about the future, she stresses about little things more than I would and she is much much more sensitive than "other" people....but she also will always have this wonderful,innocent quality to her that is PRICELESS, and so I too hope that Arianna puts this idiot in his place and states how wrong, offensive, and degrading his statements were.
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6. Ricki911 (1096) | 5 months ago | Oh My.
He should be fired def. as well made to make an apology not just to Palin but to the US.
Hes just asking for trouble.
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Rollo1 (1490) | 5 months ago | "Oh My". I couldn't have said it better.. it just leaves you kind of speechless.
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7. bestboy19 (1331) | 5 months ago | You know how most liberals feel about the most innocent, babies. If you can't kill them, insult them and their families. They're not going to fire this Nelson person. They'll probably call him a hero.
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Rollo1 (1490) | 5 months ago | I think that they are going to hope that not too many people noticed it and assume that because it's gone that many fewer will know what it said. But the text is out there, it was recorded before they took it down so there will be those who do know.
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8. spicysweetie21 (1244) | 5 months ago | That is horrible and he definitely should be fired. People with Down Syndrome deserve the same respect as everyone else and people who make fun of them just get me so angry that I see red. And it definitely should be labeled as a hate crime because he is singling out a group and making fun of them just because they are different. I must also say that labeling these sorts of things as "oh the left are so horrible" or if its a conservative saying something horrible "oh the right are so horrible", takes away from the issue. It doesn't matter whether a person is left or right, some people just have it in them to be vicious, cruel and offensive.
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Rollo1 (1490) | 5 months ago | This is a simple case of bigotry towards this group and it's so far out there that it's hard to see the humor in it. I certainly wouldn't see the humor in it if I had a Down's syndrome child.
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9. heathcliff (791) | 5 months ago | Politically Correct nonsense. Who gets to decide what is funny? Who gets to rule from a moral high point when morality is fluid? Right attacks Left. Liberal attacks Conservative. Republican attacks Democrat, and round and round we go.
You ask whether the outcry would be stronger if the other side were picked on THIS time. That is an incomparable "what if" that fails to impress in arguments. Obviously there is an uproar over this. It just seems disproportionate to what you would like to see from a public that might not care that much!
You have turned a stupid joke into an attack and the rest of your emotional argument is based on that. Once people realized it was a bad joke, it changed the level to which the story rose. Your attempt to reverse that is just politics: as bad as what you think you are complaining about your opposition doing.
I live in The United States of America and on this 4th of July I can proudly say, "I may not like what he said, but I will defend to the death his right to say it!" I am sickened by this censorship-type talk on this day of celebration, but I, for one, am going to gratefully look to the skies tonight to thank all those you died for that very freedom!
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Rollo1 (1490) | 5 months ago | Did you read it at all? Do you realize that this man is making fun of a mentally challenged baby? Do you realize he insulted everyone with a developmental disability? Since when did we decide that real-life Archie Bunkers were acceptable.
I don't know one red-blooded American service man or woman who wouldn't punch you right in the face for being a grown man making fun of a baby, so I wouldn't hope that Erik Sean Nelson is out thanking any of them for his free speech rights on this 4th of July.
People didn't realize it was a bad joke, they got very upset and the author took the post down.
By the way there is no outcry from the mainstream media, they didn't even notice it. So trust me, it isn't a partisan thing. It's about common decency and picking on someone your own size.
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10. olydove (486) | 5 months ago | In my opinion whether you are on the left, the right, the top, the bottom, or in a completely different world, this kind of behavior is 100% inexcusable and unacceptable. Nobody should ever ever use a disabled person whether they be adult or child to "get their point across" or make a dime.
I agree this should indeed be considered a hate crime. If someone were to use Obama's children in this manner with a similar story but placing it on race instead of disability they'd be sent to the slammer and pegged world wide as a racist biggot.
This is one of the lowest lows any supposed human being can come to, and I do hope that they do something about it. It's no different than when that guy on the radio made a comment about a black womens basket ball team and then he was fired from the station and completely shunned from future possible employers. Hate is hate, discrimination is discrimination now matter what side it comes from or how you look at it, it is what it is and should be treated equally when it comes to the "punishment."
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olydove (486) | 5 months ago | Sorry for the typo "now" should have been "no" LOL I did an oops!
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Rollo1 (1490) | 5 months ago | I agree, hate is hate, no matter who it comes from or is directed at. I know that grown men and women who enter public life must deal with some scrutiny of their personal lives and realize that there will be jokes both good and bad. But a baby is a baby, and should not be a casualty of political warring.
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