Partial birth abortion, euthenasia, R U really ready for the New Healthcare?

@debrakcarey (19887)
United States
August 4, 2009 11:25pm CST
Here's what's in store if Obama's CHANGE is accomplished in healthcare. Partial birth abortions; he said let babies born alive, die unattended. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9sIV9QdykA His science czar, John Holdren wrote...two year olds are not people yet. Let then die too? How about compulsory abortions? Forced population control! Get rid of THOSE kinds of people.......? he writes. And this guy advises our leader? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZCoXyQ-vks Dictate by force? Watch these videos...and weep for America.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
5 Aug 09
How about you read the actual bill instead of depending on youtube videos? I haven't read the entire thing but I do know that there are many special interest groups using many scare tactics to creat opposition to this legislation.
@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
5 Aug 09
The video is Obama and his own words. I guess if they show it on youtube, it's not real even if he said it. The point is that what Obama has stood for in the past, steadfastly, will most likely be what he stands for into the future. He has told us over and over what he believes in, and when we mention it now as something that concerns us, we are told he didn't really mean it.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
5 Aug 09
I admit I haven't read it. But these are serious videos, one by a professional who has concerns, not some guy in his garage ranting and raving. The one on Euthanasia is excerpts from (Obama's science czar) John Holdren's book. It seemed logical to me that if this man was asked to advise the president, this is the advice he would give. And this would be the 'programs' we are put under. What concerns me is the rush rush to get this thing passed, and very little main stream reporting on the nuts and bolts of it. Very little time, means very little actual discussion and thought going into it. I know from experience when someone rushes you with a decision, they often have ulterior motives. (someone tell me the # of the bill as I haven't even see that! published) Heck, I even read somewhere that Congress hadn't read the whole thing before they recessed for the summer break. Yet, fearless leader wants it passed before adequate time to debate and consider the ramifications of it all on American society. Don't worry spalladino, when someone sends me the link to it, I WILL read it. And I guarantee you, I will be here remarking on it.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
6 Aug 09
And, no, hussy, I'm not taking tips from Obama. I don't depend on youtube videos when there is factual information out there that I can read.
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
5 Aug 09
I read a while back about Holdren's desire to eliminate 90% of the worlds population, because he viewed the current level as unsustainable... and that was said a few years ago. These are not nice people. Now I see where the National Guard is recruiting for internment camp guards.... it sounds like they want to round up some people. The whole healthcare debate is all about government gaining more control, which is what this administration is all about. http://realityreport.blip.tv/file/2440399/ http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=627744 http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=627660
• United States
6 Aug 09
I read that one in high school... as well as Brave New World, Mein Kampf(sp?), and the Communist Manifesto.... as well as several others. I found them all very informative and equally unappealing.
• United States
6 Aug 09
Yep... I saw that. Internment camp s a phrase that tends to grab my undivided attention... especially since Homeland Security has decided that people who disagree with the government are to be considered low level domestic terrorists. That would include most everyone on my friends list here as well as myself. As a veteran and a patriot I take great exception to a label like that. The last internment camp that I am aware of was during WW2 when a bunch of Americans were locked up simply because they were of Japanese origin.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
6 Aug 09
National Guard recruiting for guards? Wow...will have to check that one out! Thanks for the heads up!
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
6 Aug 09
I think we're dealing with 2 (well really 3) separate issues here. I do believe that we need health care coverage for every citizen in this country and that we, as citizens, have a duty to speak up for what we consider to be acceptable and unacceptable under that coverage. Getting laws passed against partial birth abortion is a separate issue that needs to be addressed separately. As for population control, it needs to be voluntary. Studies have shown that in places where women's rights have improved, women have fewer children. Forced population control is absolutely unacceptable.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
6 Aug 09
I see what you're saying...but really the issues presented here are very closely related. They cover complete control from cradle to grave...even pre-cradle if you think about population control. These are not things I found in the healthcare bill...but in the writings of the science czar John Holdren...a person who advocates forced abortions, forced sterilazation, and even the killing of two year olds as acceptable. We need to quit thinking that this kind of crap just can't happen in America. Cause it IS happening.... White House asked regular citizens to forward any fishy emails you may receive on this healthcare bill and what it contains...to the president! He has us reporting ON EACH OTHER! Now what?
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
6 Aug 09
I'm going to use this space right here! to defend my use of YouTube videos. I work evenings when most of the speeches and debates are on. The link I provided is one of the president himself....since when does it help to make snide remarks and insult one another about reading ability? I try real hard to be respectful...and that is a difficult task for me. Ask Dawn, she knows me pretty well...BUT I SHOW RESPECT no matter how much I want to be snippy and insulting ...I think I have a right to expect it in return.
@ysobelle (202)
• Philippines
6 Aug 09
Oh my God ! Is this really true ? Even if the baby is still in the womb he/she is already alive. With the heart that beats. A baby is a gift from God, we do not have the right too take away his/her life.It is not righteous to practice mercy killing. Can you dare to stare a baby slowly dying?