The US Health Care Reform - For or Against?

@rg0205 (2636)
Hong Kong
September 5, 2009 7:18am CST
I'm on other social networking sites and an online friend raised this topic. First of all, let me say that I am FOR Universal Health Care but I am against having the Government take complete control over the entire health care system. I am not sparking a debate here but I would like to hear from people out there. What are your thoughts? Why do you agree and why don't you? I grew up in Hong Kong where we have the public (Government) and private sector. It is not mandatory to get health insurance coverage. All people have accessible health care. You can either choose the public or private, whichever you can afford and the cost difference isn't that bad. We have our liberty to choose our own doctor, health care and so on. The government does not pry into our bank accounts nor do they have any say on who deserves to get treatment and who doesn't by means of profiling (age, disability, etc.) I'm interested in hearing other people's opinions. Just out of curiosity.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
5 Sep 09
I am for fixing the problems with our current system.
@rg0205 (2636)
• Hong Kong
5 Sep 09
Yeah, I think that's how everyone should be. Thanks!
@Koriana (302)
• United States
5 Sep 09
but a big problem with the current healthcare system is that too much of the taxpayer's money is flowing into it, and too many of those taxpayers are being left in the cold!! first it was, well it's all those smoker's out there, they the reason for the high costs, so they tax the smokers into oblivion, but, well, they costs just kept on rising. now, it's the food we are eating, we are getting too much sun, and on and on and on.....more taxes!! so, now you are telling me that much of the medical practices are geared more for the profit of practitioners and big pharma? so, well, I should wait and let you have more of my money so you can fix that problem... tell ya what, stop the flow to the healthcare system, all of it, the research, the developement, the social programs for the poor, the elderly, ALL OF IT!! otherwise stop being so danged greedy!! heck your money is going to people who are far more lazy, far more irresponsible than I could ever dream of being....and mine is also!
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
5 Sep 09
That's why we need to really look at the problems, and really look at what is working before we can really do anything about it.
• United States
5 Sep 09
I am in favor of fixing the existsing system , not handing the control over of it to the government. That would cause more problems than it would solve. Yes the system needs to be fixed. I think everyone can agree on that. But what we all can't seem to agree on is how to fix it.
@rg0205 (2636)
• Hong Kong
5 Sep 09
"What we all can't seem to agree on is how to fix it" Ditto! I think it's what would favor the public the most - not the Government. That, and a plan that will not push the US further into debt.
• United States
5 Sep 09
you can thank lobbyist and special interest groups for the mess we are in.
@Koriana (302)
• United States
5 Sep 09
I don't think the lobbyists and politicians could have created this kind of mess. first, you need people who are willing to give up their values for an easy life and welfare... then, you need to have other people willing to keep on spending, even when they don't have the money to spend, and well...not be concerned about just how they are gonna pay it back... and then, well, you need to have a public is more apt to blame one another instead of centering their attention on the lobbyists and the polywogs. the people in this country seem to have the attitude that as long as things work for them, well, to heck with the ones it's not working for... I am just being honest when I say I can't afford the healthcare in this country. My supervisor at work can't either, she has this special credit card, designed just for medical bill, low interest, low payment, slap as much as you want on it, pay a rediculous amount, keep on spending, and well, don't ever expect to be out of debt! can't wait till the interest rates get hiked up and the low monthly payment becomes something unmanageable! to me, being able to get healthcare by borrowing more than you can pay continuously month after month, is the same as not being able to afford it....your account will never be paid off, you should have enough sense to know this, and well....you are knowingly making debts you can't repay. just as irresponsible as buying a house you know your not gonna be able to afford once the mortgage is readjusted.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
6 Sep 09
I disagree with it. This is the land of opportunity, inalienable rights and PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. This last one is I think the most important and vital to achieve the rest. I believe that we are people who will take care of each other. I think charity should stay with the church. Not our government.
• United States
6 Sep 09
I am for healthcare reform like you stated they havein Hong Kong. Youcan choose between a government option and private sector option. If people wit money believe they can get better care outside the system they wil pay forit. Its not a big deal. Obama should institute a constitutional amenment to let he people decide. He elected to do want the people wanted and the people are not truly representedby those who show up angry at town hall meetings but by the 47 million who are underepresented and uninsured. Health Reform now
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
6 Sep 09
The president cannot just institute a constitutional amendment, he has no such power, the amending of the constitution is a complex and difficult process, involving the aproval of the individual states, and for good reason.
@rg0205 (2636)
• Hong Kong
6 Sep 09
Thanks for your comment. I just wonder, what's so bad about having both? Some things can work in some countries and other things don't but then I don't see any reason why the Government should have 100% control up to the point where they choose who and what doctors you should see. That takes away your freedom and right to personalized health care. I think yelling over congressmen is counterproductive but in all honesty, I don't think that anyone can blame people who feel so passionately about the matter. They are angry for many reasons. Increased taxes was one thing and then when the plan was unveiled, I think for some, it was the straw that ultimately broke the camel's back. In HK, all people are eligible for health care and if, for some reason, you are poor, or cannot afford it, the Government will either foot the bill or they will pay a percentage of it and require you to pay the balance when you are able to work. Old people here are well taken care of with welfare to the point where the Government had to clamp down on them because they abused the system. About the public health care system, as with Canada or the UK, sometimes you need to WAIT. That piece of info is not far fetched. It is the truth and it is the reason why for emergency cases (CT SCANS, MRIs, etc.) It's best to go private and private is still affordable.
@Quiplet (255)
• United States
5 Sep 09
All American citizens should have catastrophic health needs cared for, either privately or publicly funded. All people living in the U.S. should have their communicable diseases, especially flu, pneumonia cared for, and that includes those living here illegally. If people/corporations are forced to give give give, then the non-profit organizations suffer because the true generosity in hearts and minds is altered. Remember, many of your corporations give generously THROUGH their employee programs such as United Way, Red Cross etc. These employees will not only have less to give but will have less enthusiasm to give to other needy programs if taxed and taxed for government programs... especially programs they personally do not approve of. Have you given in the past to needy foundations? Will you be able to - or want to should you be forced by the government to pay for these additional programs?
@Koriana (302)
• United States
5 Sep 09
I've live in one of the most conservative states in the nation, texas, and I've have lived in one of the most liberal in the country...NY. ya know what, I had my kids in texas, me and my husband both worked at my babies doctor's offices after hours doing odd jobs to pay her off...she understood, we didn't have the money!! NY, na, they act like all their social programs are actually covering everyone who needs help....good luck finding anyone willing to help you out if you prove them wrong! I believe you are right.
@rg0205 (2636)
• Hong Kong
5 Sep 09
I agree with you. I believe "forcing" would create a sense of animosity and people would be less inclined to give because well, you're forced to any way. I would feel that way if I were put in that position. Thanks for sharing.
@Koriana (302)
• United States
7 Sep 09
Ya know, here's a scary thought for yas to ponder if you wish.. we just had a big life insurance company go in our city. seems that when the the economy went south, they had their assetts invested in the wrong areas. we know that the pension plans were hit hard from it. but, what about the health insurance companies? could it be that well, we are in a bigger healthcare crisis than any of us could ever dream of and those big health insurance giants will the the next "too big to fail" and be needing a large cash infusion. could this urgency to pass reform now, just be a way to give them that infusion, without the headache of yet another bailout?