Yassou Nona: The role of the Godmother.

@thea09 (18305)
Greece
September 11, 2009 5:53am CST
There comes a moment in the life of every Mama when she hears the words 'let me baptize your child'. This is from the potential Godmother who is a lovely person who then organises a lovely baptism service into the Greek orthodox church with a nice party afterwards. Beware, not only does the chld now have a Godmother but Mama has a koubara, as has now legally accepted a family relationship allowing the Godmother to tell Mama how to raise the child. She has the right to make you attend all family gatherings, boss you whenever she feels like it, and interfere whenever she likes in the way Mama raises the child. Some make their bossy interference a way of life, after pretending their only purpose was to give lavish presents on name days. So what does a Godmother mean in your culture, or do you have an equivalent type of person you end up related to by accident who now always knows best?
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
13 Sep 09
Well that's not what a Godmother is in the US LOL But, your "Yassou Nona" resembles what we American women call Mother in Laws. I was raised Catholic and a Godparents roll is to buy nice gifts on holidays and if the parents die or become unable to care for their child than the Godparent takes the role on. A Godparent is also responsible for making sure that the child learns religion.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
13 Sep 09
Hi thea, you make me laugh so hard! "I'm curious now as to what name you give your mother in laws over the Pond." My husband said I need to tell you Satan, bytch, monster in law the other things mylot won't let me said. But, you have to remember this is his mother so she is really bad if he is the one that said that.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
14 Sep 09
That is so weird to me. I don't know if that was ever a practice here in the US. I could imagine there would be a lot of unmarried people LOL I call my husband's mother by her name and I would never call her "mom" I think my husband would rather call her by her name and say she is my mother.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
14 Sep 09
So living together as a happy family unit with you doing all the work whilst new mama just sits and shouts her instructions never really appealed I suppose. I have a friend who says her mother in law is really nice, but she lives at the other end of the country.
@dbutheking (2347)
• India
11 Sep 09
Hi thea, Thanks for sharing something about your culture. But i am sorry to say that i understand a little because i am poor in English. What is bapize, baptism, koubara, lavish? Can you explain about godmother in two sentence in a simple English? Thanks, Have a great day.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
11 Sep 09
Ok dbu, here goes with simple English. In Greece a young child is taken to the church to receive a Greek name.(the baptism) The godmother promises to take responsibilty for the child as well as the mother. After this the mother and child are then officially related to the godmother who will look after the child if the mother is ill or needs help. The child then calls the godmother Nona, and the godmother becomes the koubara to the mother. The whole family of the godmother becomes family to the mother and child. Please tell me if I need to explain again dbu, I posted this for you.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
12 Sep 09
• India
11 Sep 09
Thank you very much thea.. I understand now. In my country there are no such similar relationships. Have a great day.
@Sissygrl (10909)
• Canada
14 Sep 09
Hi Thea, I never appointed a godmother to my children.. I dont think many people really do here now a day, none that i have noticed.. We are not religious people either, so our children are not baptized either. So how does it work there, You pick the person you want to appoint godmother, or someone else does ? can it be anyone ? hehe now you have my curiosity running.
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@Sissygrl (10909)
• Canada
15 Sep 09
wow. i think if that where to happen to me i would so run under a rock with my kid and hide till everyone stopped looking for me, and then run away home!! hhaha you are strong to stay there.. but i bet the food is all work it huh huh huh ? *nudge* mm i love baklava (sp)
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
15 Sep 09
Hi Sissygrl, I am not religious in the slightest to make a bit of an understatent and rejected the whole concept of godparents when my son was born in the UK, but when you move countries and want to integrate well it's best to go along with things to be accepted as one of 'them'. I never dreamt of picking a godmother, she picked on my son, and organised it all without filling me in on what it actually entailed. I rather had the idea that it would be a bit of a tradition done and then a nice party - no. Even before we'd left the church, and let me tell you the whole baptism bit was a really jolly experience, the papers were out for me to sign and take up to the local town hall giving my son an official Greek name and making us part of the family. All true my dear. And welcome too to the new interest of Greek Life Style, by tomorrow you will a high ranking member.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Sep 09
hi thea yes here in the US we have Godparents too. they dont really'do much to interfere in the lives of the mom and dad but a lot of people do ask their Godparents to take over if anything happens to them and their children are left parentless.so usually the Godparents are somebody the parents know and reallylove so they would not hesitate tomake them legal guardians if a catastrophe ever occurred .
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
12 Sep 09
Hi Hatley, I'm familiar with the type of godparents you mention who are generally chosen as someone trustworthy and loved. Being an incomer here I rather had the whole thing foisted upon me against my will but do enjoy the benefits of now belonging to a large Greek family, despite the bossiness involved. I believe my son would hopefully be allowed to make his own choice now in the event of being left alone in the world but you've actually made me realise it should be something that I do look into and get down on paper as his choice now would no longer be the nona and perhaps the papers I signed would give her first say. Maybe a visit to my lawyer is in order, thank you Hatley, you've brought something to my mind which needs attention.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
11 Sep 09
I never had a godmother nor did my children. U hear of it some here but not too often or i don't anyway.I don't think i would have been happy having one w/my sons, never did like to be bossed or told what to do about my kids or anything else, lol. I ask for advice if i need it .Yassou.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
11 Sep 09
Yassou Aunty, no I never considered the idea either, just rather got coerced into it before I realised all the implications, but it has given me someone who is guaranteed to step in if I really need help, such as when I was in the hospital and I needed someone to look after my son, it was a sort of duty thing that she stepped in and it saved me a lot of worry, so there's a good side to it too. The unwanted advice tends to go in one ear and out the other though Aunty and I just smile politely and then ignore it.(Looks like at least another 4 days before there will be any real life smiling though, unless my lips are firmly clamped together - but the Godmother did approve of the choice of dentist I used).
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
12 Sep 09
Ican see where there would be advantages to having one & disadvantages to unlee like u people could just turn them off when need be, lol.Have a good weekend. YASSOU.
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
14 Sep 09
Hello my friend I have two god children, we help out as much as we can, also if something happens to the parents the godparents can step in and raise the child, I think this is a wonderful thing, my god children are great, I use to do alot for them, when I am able I will continue to do whatever I can, I have 1 boy and 1 girl, I think that is enough for me, I have never actually heard of a god parent raising a god child, but it can be possible, they play a big role in the kids life, not their day to day life but we are they when needed. Thank you.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
14 Sep 09
Hi kitty, I should think you'd be rather suited to the role of godmother as obviously sound as though you love children. The godmother in question doesn't raise the child, just interferes a lot, but she did take my son in when for 10 days when I had to go in hospital and then needed some time to recover.
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
14 Sep 09
Hello my friend I think if one of my god childrens parents became sick they would go to their grandmother before they send them to a god parent, really weird when you think of the differences, in some case the god parents barely see the kids, I see one more than the other, this more than anything I feel is financial, when they give parties god mommy should come well prepared. Thank you.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
14 Sep 09
Ah but I got a whole family when I signed up Kitty, and with it comes serious duties out here.
@stvasile (7306)
• Romania
11 Sep 09
Aha, so that's what "koubara" means! Around here, the children's Godparents are the same that were alongside the child's parents when they got married. The witnesses from the City Hall and from Church. This type of relationship is passed onto the next generations, so, for example, my Godparents' son is supposed to be next to me when I get married and baptise my children. However, I don't have such a tight relationship with my Godparents, although along the years I was dragged in visits on important holidays (Christmas, New Year's, Easter, and so on) "because that's the right way to behave"...
@stvasile (7306)
• Romania
11 Sep 09
Yes, fortunately I can and I will break that tradition. Shall it ever be the case, I won't be wedded by persons of the same family that my Godparents are from. Nor will my virtual children be baptised by them. I just don't like them, and that's that.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
11 Sep 09
Good for you stvasile, I don't know how difficult it is to break with tradition there. There is no obligation for us to contine the koubara/godmother relationship on to another generation, after all next generations can be a bit of a touchy thing out here with so much interbreeding.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
11 Sep 09
Hi stvasile, the actual relationship of godmother (nona) to child is easy to understand and it is not a generational thing like you describe but ususally a close family friend or someone who just expects to do it. By this relationship I acquired this Koubara and nobody warned me first. That is the oddest relationship of all and people refer to one another as koubara before an event, for instances one of the local fisherman insists he will be my koubaros if I remarry, that is to say he will be the person of importance at such an event even though I haven't asked him, the idea being if he goes on about it long enough I'll just give in and accept it. So although it's the same idea in our two countries they go about it a slightly different way. Whoever becomes koubara or koubaros though is officially family on paper and is connected for life. So can you break the tradition in your case, surely it is better to have someone you are close with as there will be all those holiday visits to go through?
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