Thank You, Mr. President  | | Annie get your mittens and your sled, I'm about to say something nice about Barack Obama!
He said something that I am glad he said; it doesn't change the way I feel about a lot of the issues that I typically rant on about here, but it does earn him some respect from me and a measure of gratitude:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/18/obama-race-overriding-issue/
Hopefully now that Obama himself has said that most criticisms of him and the healthcare debate are NOT RACIALLY MOTIVATED his fans will stop throwing those nasty false charges at everyone as if it were some sort of reflex action.
some excerpts:
"There's been a long-standing debate in this country that is usually that much more fierce during times of transition, or when presidents are trying to bring about big changes," Obama told CNN.
To NBC News, Obama put it this way: "It's an argument that's gone on for the history of this republic, and that is, What's the right role of government? How do we balance freedom with our need to look out for one another? ... This is not a new argument, and it always evokes passions."
Obama said most people across the country are just trying to follow the debate and figure out how proposed changes would help them.
"Now there are some who are, setting aside the issue of race, actually I think are more passionate about the idea of whether government can do anything right," Obama said told ABC News.
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Do you beleive the president when he says that most of the opposition to his POLICIES is NOT about race? NOW will you maybe at least LISTEN to some of what the opposition is saying? Or will we continue to be demonized and dismissed?
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| | | | | | | | 1. sndcain36 (2645) | 3 months ago | The left has lost control and they are doing whatever they can to get it back. Calling people racist for speaking out as they've been doing from the beginning is only making things worse and 0bama knows it. He said that for the same reason Pelosi finally threw ACORN under the bus; political expediency.
0bama has been playing race from the beginning and now that it has come back to bite him in the asss he has to dial it back. I find it rather insulting quite frankly. I'm not in the least bit fooled by this about face.
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AngryKittyMSV (1862) | 3 months ago | I know, but you know this cranky crab has soft squishy insides and it was nice for me for a MOMENT to not be demonized, ridiculed and dismissed, even if it may not have been sincere. It's a crappy world, so I'll take what I can get and try to enjoy it while it lasts.
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mommyboo (3277) | 3 months ago | Hey, I can take the comment at face value as a comment - but does it make me like him any better, NO. Does it make me consider there may be any merit to his policies, NO. I hope he was chiding any person who IS racially motivated though, in a backhanded way through the comment. Unlike him*I* do not have any reason to be politically correct, thank God.
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AngryKittyMSV (1862) | 3 months ago | And there are people who ONLY support him BECAUSE of his color, and it ain't the white half of him that they are in love with him over either!
It's stupid to love OR hate someone due to their ethnicity, especially when that person is in charge of your freaking COUNTRY, there are MUCH more important issues than his color we need to be dealing with!
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ZephyrSun (3468) | 3 months ago | Yep, I'm sure you're 100% correct. I just didn't feel the need to go to all details since your discussion was about the people that oppose him are not raciest. If we wanted to go that deep we could say that there are people that love him because he is mixed, there are people that love him because he had a bad childhood ect ect...
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AngryKittyMSV (1862) | 3 months ago | Even Obama said that as sure as there may be some people who don't like him solely because of his race, there are surely people who LIKE him solely because of his race as well. I'm just happy that he said what he did, it isn't often that I can say, "I agree with Obama". I'll enjoy the moment while it lasts, thanks for joining the discussion.
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AngryKittyMSV (1862) | 3 months ago | Yeah, after I run over one of your feet for being a smartass first. Jeff Gordon sucks. LOL
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| | 4. jb78000 (1642) | 3 months ago | [arrives carrying 'big girls big book of plop synonyms'] hiya kitty. well naturally criticising a politician can't be anything other than racially motivated. should have thought you'd realised that by now. oh hold on a second, it can also be gender discrimination - i only criticised thatcher because she's a woman and lots of others because they're men. think there is a bit of racism in certain quarters with your current president but far from everywhere.
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| | 5. xfahctor (5134) | 3 months ago | Here is what jumped out at me...... "It's an argument that's gone on for the history of this republic..." The use of the word republic over other words he has in the past like "our democrocy". It was almost an attempt to ghrab the attention and support of more libertarian concsious.
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mommyboo (3277) | 3 months ago | Lip service. If he isn't treating it like the republic it is supposed to be, then that's all it was.
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| | | | 6. mommyboo (3277) | 3 months ago | I'm not sure I'd go that far M lol. I mean I'm absolutely GLAD he said that because the people who do hang on his every word maybe will have paid attention for that short moment, but I still believe most of his policies are jacked, the economy, the health care thing, and just yesterday I heard all this crap about taxing food, fining people for yard sales (yes, there's more to this), pulling hdtvs off the shelves for 'energy efficient' issues - and something else which I forgot for the moment.
I can say that NONE of my disagreements are racially motivated, can anybody remember Clinton? LOL!
I have even been unfortunately watching a lot of news shows, more by osmosis than by anything, but I HEAR a lot of things on there with people arguing that a LOT of people are tossing around that whole racially motivated thing and even the NEWS people complain that it's not right, that people should not be making their decisions that way and the only way people ought to make decisions is policy. Yes, I am GLAD that OBAMA has now addressed it. He needs to continue to address it so that the people with thick heads who missed it the first time can have it jammed in their face another couple hundred times.
As far as government doing anything right? They still can't, but I do think if they begin REALIZING that, it might be a STEP in the right direction. Once they begin to realize THEY are broken, maybe they can propose some change from within instead of all this stuff they want to dump on us.
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| | | | 7. epicure35 (145) | 3 months ago | Angry Kitty, my friend, I cannot agree with saying anything nice about BO, until and unless he reveals who he is and is removed from office. Please, never forget, that EVERYTHING he says is SCRIPTED or a LIE. He and his handlers know EXACTLY how to get an emotional hook into people and play on their sympathies, while,at the same time, defrauding them, like a pickpocket, setting up a distraction, and stealing your money, a la vez! (at the same time). We're not really even sure exactly what O's race is, but he is perceived as black. This was the gambit of those who have been lying-in-wait to savage and destroy America for years. What better way to maneuver than to stay one jump ahead of the prey. In this case, we, the people of America are the prey. Our once innocent and loving country has always been champion of the underdog, though hardly perfect, since we are all flawed. The evil thugs and gangsters who ARE O and his ilk, based his whole "candidacy" on his perceived race. That was the intent of the gambit, to play on the collective guilt of a country that cares and has done so much to right the wrong re the slavery issue. You can only say "mea culpa" so many times, and even God forgives after one sincere "I'm sorry."Remember, slavery that came to the US began in Africa, with Africans enslaving and selling each other and this kind of torture continues in Africa to this day. While there is no excuse for America's participation, it is a wrong that has been long ago "righted" in this country, righted and then some, vis a vis "affirmative action", etc. While this is a bit of a digression, it has some relevance to the way so many people, groups (e.g. Reverend Wright, Farakhann, etc.), of EVERY race play the race card, as in Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc., with political motive. There are so many who happen to be black who could have been the DNC candidate, but their love of America, God, and our Constitution would not satisfy the evil intent of America haters, like O and his radical associates. They would not have based their candidacies on race like O did, and that is the essence of the gambit - to make any who dissent "guilted" into being called a racist, thus PREVENT any dissent. Look what happened to Joe Wilson, a true hero. Look at another hero, Henry Alford, who stood up to Barbara Boxer and let her know what a racist she is for demanding that he, National Chairman of the Chamber of Commerce, do and believe what the NAACP does, just because he happens to be black. Liberals are racists because they use race as a tool to get their way; ditto radicals; ditto radical Islam. O is in synch with all three. As Alan Keyes (who would have been a good choice for President) said, O's conscience is seared. That's why he can keep on lying to our faces and pretending he cares about things that make him look "human". His handlers know we are on to their racial maneuvering, so, to be one jump ahead of us, they puppeteer him into saying that some like him because of his race, so he will "appear" honest, but don't be fooled. NO HONEST person ever pays millions of taxpayer dollars to keep his vital records sealed. We Americans do not oppose O's "policies" because of race but because they are EVIL and HATEFUL and INTENT on our DESTRUCTION. We oppose O because he is a liar who HATES America and is committing jihad right under our noses. When he can no longer deceive us and sycophant us, he will use force against us, be assured.
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| | | | 8. anniepa (9167) | 3 months ago | Kitty, NNNOOOOO!!! I don't WANT to get my mittens and sled! Seriously, I get your drift, Hon, and good for you. I think this whole race issue that keeps on raring its ugly head no matter who is pulling it up has gone too far. I believe the President meant what he said in the excerpts above, NOT because I'm a loyal follower who hangs onto his every word but because I've heard and read from reporters who cover him extensively that he doesn't like it when people "play the race card". I have no problem with you or anyone else disagreeing with this President or anyone else in our government at any given time based on their policies. We need healthy debate and the fact is none of us are right 100% of the time. I certainly understand how some issues really invoke passion in some people and this whole health care debate is really hitting home for many.
What I'd really like to see are even more town hall meetings with even bigger crowds but without the rudeness, the name-calling or the nasty vulgar signs from either side. Personally, I'd also like to see the guns left at home in those kinds of forums but I know I'm going to get "corrected" on that one...lol! I'd like to see even more tea party type events held by both sides but, again without the signs and rhetoric that really aren't about the issue at hand. I think it's very possible to come up with a workable solution for our health care crisis if people would just start talking to each other and listening to each other. Nobody is going to get 100% of what they want! Anyway, sorry for getting off-topic, the health care issue is too complex to try to mix it in here.
When it comes to the racism issue and all the sensitivity over it I sincerely try to see both sides of it. I'm white and yet I'VE been accused of only voting for Obama because he's black! That makes no sense and it bothers me a bit because I carefully listened and watched all the debates and did my own research during the campaign and my vote had nothing to do with race or gender. Let's face it, if Hillary had won the nomination and gone on to win the general election every woman who voted for her would be accused of doing so only because she's a woman. My point is, I can certainly understand how anyone would be angry at being told or having it implied that they voted against Obama because of his race. Had my state's primary been earlier when all of the candidates were still in the race I'd have probably voted for Biden; does that make ME racist OR sexist?
I'm very glad President Obama is trying his best to do HIS part to stop this divisive nonsense. There will always be some racists on the "fringe" and, unfortunately, some of those people crave attention and that's why we'll keep seeing them at rallies and protests with their signs and there will always be those in the media willing to give them the attention they seek.
One thing I wish - and I hope this doesn't make you mad - is that more of those on the right would denounce the Hitler signs and other hateful words and symbols. I KNOW some did that to Bush also and I didn't like it then either. I think people need to really stop and think about what these comparisons actually mean. I also think some members of the media need to lay off the repeated discussions about whether almost anything anyone says or does is about race. It's made it so when there's a legitimate question it only makes people angry instead of starting a civil and reasonable debate about it. If this makes any sense, I think the bottom line is most of us need to be both MORE sensitive and LESS sensitive at the same time. In other words, it wouldn't hurt for everyone to think about whether they're going to hurt or offend someone before they speak while at the same time giving others the benefit of the doubt when they say something that could be taken the wrong way.
Annie
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