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| It was announced today that Rush Limbaugh and a group of investors are going to make an offer to purchase the St. Louis Rams. This isn't the first time that Limbaugh has been involved with the NFL, in 2003 he had a very brief stint on ESPN's NFL Pregame show. He left the show after he made comments about Eagles QB Donavon McNabb that some felt were racist, and put the NFL in a bad light. The NFL is very worried about it's public image, and has rules that could hurt this offer. What do you think of this? | | | | | |
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1. coolcoder (2038)
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3 years ago
| | Limbaugh's comments were no worse than what some liberals say (and don't think they don't make racist statements, because they do.); actually, they were less racist. Whoever was offended needs to thicken their skin. McNabb's a friggin' football player...it's pretty sad that he's so tough on the playing field, yet so thin-skinned off of it that he can't just ignore someone's opinions. I say "More power to you, Rush." | | | | | | |
thegreatdebater (1828)
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3 years ago
| | It wasn't McNabb that had a problem with what he said, it was the rest of the country, ESPN, and the NFL. The NFL is big business, and I think it will be interesting to see if they allow him to proceed with this purchase. | | | |
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2. ParaTed2k (6344)
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3 years ago
| | The ironic part of that whole incident was Rush was neither the first nor the last person to make the same observation. He was, however, the only one punished for stating the obvious. | | | | | | |
thegreatdebater (1828)
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3 years ago
| | Ted, the difference is that McNabb is still in the NFL, and proved Limbaugh to be WRONG. Nothing new for Rush, I am sure he is use to that by now. | | | |
ParaTed2k (6344)
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3 years ago
| | The point is, Rush was punished for saying what others have gotten away with pointing out. The left doesn't punish its racists, it embraces them... of course, there is no racist bigot like a left wing one. The left has done more to hold down minorities than the wildest dreams of any KKK leader. | | | |
debrakcarey (2673)
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3 years ago
| | speaking of the KKK, didn't the very liberal and left leaning organization called the ACLU defend their right to say what they wanted? I believe they did. | | | |
thegreatdebater (1828)
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3 years ago
| | Ted, no one punished Rush for what he said, he left ESPN on his own. Both parties have had a horrible history of embrassing former KKK memebers, but that isn't what this post is about. It is about a man who's ego is larger than his bank roll, and either way, one of them is going to be deflated. | | | |
thegreatdebater (1828)
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3 years ago
| | Deb, ALL AMERICANS have a constituional right to freedom of speech. Even if you don't agree with what people have to say, they still have the right to say it. | | | |
ParaTed2k (6344)
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3 years ago
| | Yeah, he left ESPN on his own like I left the US Army on my own. | | | |
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3. peavey (7307)
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3 years ago
| | The only thing I think of it is that the last sentence is very narrow minded. If the NFL is worried about its public image, it would make some changes, like keeping players off the field after they've done prison time or been caught with drugs. What's the big deal about Limbaugh owning a part of a football team? He has every right to own one. He's neither said nor done anything to create a problem. I'm beginning to think that only the media creates problems; people don't. | | | | | | |
thegreatdebater (1828)
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3 years ago
| | The NFL is a business, and just like any business it has patents, and rights. The NFL isn't a public company, and only one of the teams is a public company. They are afraid of anything hurting their image, and they have taken steps to punish the players who have committed crimes. Actually Limbaugh doesn't have any right to own an NFL team, and can actually be blocked from doing so. His Current bid for the team will be rejected because it violates the NFL policy on ownership of multiple professional teams. Again, this is a private company, and private business, so they can control those that own their teams. This policy has nothing to do with the Media, it has to do with the league, and those that run it. | | | |
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thegreatdebater (1828)
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3 years ago
| | they have done a better jov then our justice system has. The NFL suspends someone for a year plus for killing someone, when he was sentanced to less than one month in jail. At times they are worse than our justice system. | | | |
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4. spicysweetie21 (1542)
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3 years ago
| | All I can say is if he does, well thank god he is not going to buy the Raiders because I know my dad would shake his head in shame, and it has nothing to do with the fact that Rush might be a racist, Rush Limbaugh is an a$$ either way, and any person that is going to defend him is going to defend his calling a girl a dog, and blaming a woman for her husbands cheating by saying she should have been doing something with her mouth besides talking, Rush Limbaugh is a piece of womanizing filth, and its so sad to see that so many mylotters support him despite the disgusting things that he has said, sometimes you do need to put politics aside and just look at the person, and its funny and ironic because alot of those people will label Obama supporters a certain immature way usually, but they won't look in the mirror and realize that they are supporting a womanizing and derogatory former junkie that makes fun of people with Parkinson's disease. Can you say hypocrite haha | | | | | | |
thegreatdebater (1828)
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3 years ago
| | I don't know if to many Raiders fans would agree with you on that one. I am sure that many Raiders fans would rather have a bum off the streets owning the Raiders right now. I agree with everything you say about Rush, and how people defend him as if he is a pure saint. He has said something things that NO ONE can defend, and yet you will find people on here try. | | | |
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5. matersfish (2655)
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3 years ago
| | A person's political views shouldn't have anything to do with whether or not they'd be a good owner. I wouldn't care if Olbermann or one of those other uber-leftist commentators wanted to purchase part of a sports team. I highly doubt Rush would have the Rams wearing anti-Obama jerseys. I don't think he'd put himself in the booth to discuss politics while the team played. In fact, I don't see what Rush's politics have to do with this at all. The NFL being a business, they want long money. I guess the only possible argument I can see is that people would somehow turn on the Rams should Rush purchase a stake. And that's really something I can't see happening. Not everyone's so jaded to give two good sh1ts about an owners' politics. Sure, some are, you included, I imagine, but to think a significant portion of sports fans actually care about the policits or personal life in general of an owner is preposterous. Really, there are only a few percent of Americans who are that blatantly shut off from others and reactionary to the point of revolt should someone they disagree with politically suddenly enter into business. And I dare say that the vast majority of that few percent really are not NFL fans. The NFL's public image is rife with legitimate criminality. That's the aspect of the game owners feel will deter average fans. To counter this, they go out of their way to throw the proverbial "feel-good" stories out there, like the mass media feeding frenzy surrounding Favre's return; the Manning brothers and their clean-nosed appeal; Tom Brady and idol worship; etc. Even still, Vick stories are always steam gainers. But there's no legitimate fallout. NFL fans are able to separate any one person from their love of the sport. And that's who the NFL markets to: football fans. How many Steelers fans walked away from the team when Obama named their owner, Dan Rooney, as Ambassador to Ireland? Nobody cares about his politics. It's football. Life isn't so unwaveringly political, so incredibly black and white. All that said, Rush should do something else with his money. How about donating it to the Boys and Girls Club in order to buy a few hundred disenfrancised kids season tickets at every NFL stadium for the next decade? A worthier cause, in my opinion. | | | | | | |
thegreatdebater (1828)
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3 years ago
| | Mater, this really doesn't have anything to do with politics. Rush seams to put his foot in his mouth when ever he opens it. I don't approve of his views on many things, but I do agree with his views on the Steelers, but that is because I am a Steelers fan as well. Let me put you in the NFL's shoes: Let say you own a corporations, and you started franchising it. You want everything to be just like your original store so that when ever you go to one anywhere they have as close to the same experience as your original one. Now you have someone wanting a franchise who has a reputation of doing this his way, and has a lot of bad press following him. Would you want someone like bring down your good name, and hurting your other franchises? This is not about politics, it is about business, and I hope you understand that is where I am coming from. I agree that donating money to the Boys and Girls Club would be a great gift to children that need one so much. But, I think that Rush really wants to get back into the NFL because he truely loves the game. If you ever listen to him talk about football, you see that he really wants to do more than just be a fan. I don't think that the NFL will allow him to have a large roll in a team, but I think that he will find a home somewhere in the new Rams ownership. | | | |
matersfish (2655)
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3 years ago
| | I get that. You wouldn't want to sell a Burger King franchise to someone and have them paint the store like Wendy's and start selling Big Macs. There's nothing a guy like Rush will do to that team that runs contrary to the NFL's image... false as it is. The NFL's image is a reflection of its 32 teams. All of them are different. All of them have their problems. And some of them could do far worse than Rush Limbaugh. He's a controversial figure who says a lot of things people don't like. But what else about him is bad for the NFL's image? How is it bad business? The Rams are the league's absolute worst team right now. That doesn't reflect poorly on the NFL -- just the Rams. The NFL, in a sense and in the sense you're speaking of, is the government for these 32 separate competing entities. Without the invidual, the NFL doesn't exist. So, honestly, the NFL "image" you're speaking about doesn't really exist. It's a feigned outcry and a belt lashing to save face. The NFL, business-wise, is Michael Moore's worst nightmare. If anyone can make a buck out of it, they won't be saying no to Rush. | | | |
thegreatdebater (1828)
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3 years ago
| | Mater, thanks for repsonding. "There's nothing a guy like Rush will do to that team that runs contrary to the NFL's image... false as it is." I am sure that ESPN thought the same thing. Once bitten, twice shy. "He's a controversial figure who says a lot of things people don't like. But what else about him is bad for the NFL's image? How is it bad business? The Rams are the league's absolute worst team right now. That doesn't reflect poorly on the NFL -- just the Rams." How many other owners have a daily radio show where they can vent about the NFL? We have all heard him playing his little mind games, saying things that could mean something else, while he really didn't say anything at all. Doing things like that in the real world gets you huge ratings, and a fat paycheck. In the NFL it gets you a six figure fine, and a suspension. How do you think Rush would react to that? "The NFL, in a sense and in the sense you're speaking of, is the government for these 32 separate competing entities. Without the invidual, the NFL doesn't exist. So, honestly, the NFL "image" you're speaking about doesn't really exist. It's a feigned outcry and a belt lashing to save face. The NFL, business-wise, is Michael Moore's worst nightmare. If anyone can make a buck out of it, they won't be saying no to Rush." Here is the other hard part about this, Rush can't keep a secret, and there are a lot of secrets in the NFL. Like, how much money an NFL team makes, and how much they get from the government. This is a very important year for the NFL, next year their collective barganing agreement is up, and you might have an uncapped year. If the players association knew how much the teams made, they could blow the cap out of the water. With Rush involved you would be sure that people would want to know information that could hurt the NFL management. Any way you spin this, it isn't good for anyone involved. | | | |
matersfish (2655)
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3 years ago
| | This is, of course, assuming Rush would run his mouth about the team/league out of spite. On ESPN, their job is to comment on sports. As an owner, I don't see why anyone would comment negatively about their respective league and especially their team. That's bad business for the owner. | | | |
thegreatdebater (1828)
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3 years ago
| | LMAO, Rush can't keep his mouth shut about anything. What makes you think that he would about an investment that he has? "On ESPN, their job is to comment on sports. As an owner, I don't see why anyone would comment negatively about their respective league and especially their team. That's bad business for the owner." Rush is a fan, and that is what fans do. Do you really think that the first time they have a bad call that cost them a game he is going to be able to keep his mouth shut? Would you put YOUR money on that? How about a few BILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS? | | | |
matersfish (2655)
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3 years ago
| | I don't know if he would or not. I'm not the one assuming he would. I'm simply pointing out the differences in commenting on things and owning something. You don't seem to think the two are separated. Or perhaps not separate for Rush. Maybe you know him well enough to make that call. I don't know. But that doesn't matter. You don't think Rush should own a part of the Rams, so no matter what is said, you'll have something to "LMAO" about. Your opinion is set. | | | |
thegreatdebater (1828)
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3 years ago
| | "I'm simply pointing out the differences in commenting on things and owning something. You don't seem to think the two are separated. Or perhaps not separate for Rush. Maybe you know him well enough to make that call. I don't know." I know Rush's history of doing this, and anyone can see where this is going. "But that doesn't matter. You don't think Rush should own a part of the Rams, so no matter what is said, you'll have something to "LMAO" about. Your opinion is set." I do think that he shouldn't own part of the Rams, I am not the commissioner of the NFL. Some players have already said that they wouldn't play for any team own by Rush. So I am sure that will have some effect on the kind of players that they could bring in via free agency. | | | |
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6. xfahctor (7620)
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3 years ago
| | WEll, it seems only fitting that he is now backing yet ANOTHER disgracfully losing team. He has already been backing the republican party for years, why would his NFL pick be any different. Other than that, non story, guy buying foot ball team. I'm not a republican fan and I'm not a football fan, unless the Pats are in the Superbowl that is, the only time I ever watch football. | | | | | | |
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| 7. jacobsguardian (87)
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3 years ago
| | I can't stand Rush Limbaugh and hope he stays far away from the NFL so he doesn't suck all the life and fun out of watching football for me. | | | | | | |
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