How do you take care of your hurting friends?  |
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When a person you care about is hurting, you hurt, too. When that person is grieving, we want to take some steps to ease their journey as they go through it. Sometimes, I do not know how to comfort. Words are poor comforter for someone like me who is messy with words the best thing is to keep quiet. Many times, I grope for the right way to help my loved ones. I try to be with them, may be silent but with all my might.
Does that work? How do you deal with such situations? How do you try to help your hurting friends? Pls share.
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1. nanayangel (4229) | 1 month ago | Hi there Mimpi!
Well, what I do is I try to be there for them whenever they need me. I try to be a good listener and gives my opinion and advice when asked. I know for a fact that it's really effective because I myself appreciate it when my friends are there for me during times of difficulties and whenever I am down.
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mimpi1911 (8025) | 1 month ago | That's so so true! That works for me even. By being a good listener and supporter I try to cushion my friends from the tertiary distresses. I love them a lot.
Thanks
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2. alokn99 (2898) | 1 month ago | I find myself wanting to to do something or the other to help the person get through the situation. It's important to assure the person that i am there for any thing that is needed, even a shoulder or a helping hand. Silence with a few words is sometimes better than saying too much. For the wrong words can hurt the person more. Complete attention, empathising with the person's feelings, getting the person to talk and discuss the problem helps in a great way to start off with. I'd then offer to try and help out in all the ways possible.
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mimpi1911 (8025) | 1 month ago | Yes I agree. I can say for myself, sometimes just the empathetic presence means more than the words. Silence is comforting sometimes. Talking it out when my friend feels it to be the right time and as and when he does is perfectly fine. I try to give space. I try to unburden his work by doing the bills and queues which could be hassle during times of distress.
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3. derek_a (5041) | 1 month ago | Yes, this is so true. What happens when one practices meditation is that we gradually develop a higher state of compassion for all life. I remember when I first began to experience this, it was quite a surprise to me. I hadn't expected it to happen, but it just did.
From this point, as a Zen practitioner, I had to learn to be detached from the problem - as it is karma at work and in the best way I could, I needed to support the person in coming through their situation. It was easier for me I guess because as therapist I was seeing different people throughout my working day with many different and difficult problems. To get too involved would not be supportive, so as I learned to do this, I learned to do it with friends and family also. Whilst it is not so easy to do this, it is possible. I have learned that real compassion is not pity. Pity for the most part, can only weaken a person. Most times, just sitting and listening is all we can do and this is more than enough.. We need to learn to trust that whatever is so, is so because it is meant to be that way. I say it is meant to be that way, because it is that way... - Derek
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mimpi1911 (8025) | 1 month ago | Thanks Derek. I understand what you mean. Sometimes we must let go because it is meant to be that way. It's a great thing but it's tough for people like me who are earthly. It feels good to know that you help others reach that higher state of mind. May be, you can counsel me sometime. Its really difficult for me to switch off, let go and kid of detach myself. I would love to learn more of Zen from you.
Thanks so much.
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derek_a (5041) | 1 month ago | Hi Mimpi,
Thanks for responding.
I don't think compassion is learned so much as developed through meditative discipline. It can take a short time or long time. In Zen, we just learn to let it happen - without forcing it.
In the meantime, it is important not to try and force any form of change on ourselves, but to accept ourselves exactly as we are. Meditation (zazen) is a way of doing this. It is not easy, but with practice, we learn to just act as a witness to all the thoughts and feelings our mind produces. Whilst sitting and focusing on our breathing, we can watch how crazy the mind can be, or how profound it can be. But that isn't the goal.
The goal is to find the ability to transcend the mind, so that the sense of self and other disappears. That means that if we feel sorry for others, we are feeling sorry for self. Feeling sorry for self, isn't spiritually productive and neither is feeling sorry for other. - The mind will go through all these sorts of crazy loops. The discipline is just to sit and watch it all without judgement. And if we judge? Sit and watch our judgement without judging it. When all these wheels within wheels disappear, then we can be of value and service to others.
Zen doesn't provide answers, just a method where we can find our own answers. - Derek
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mimpi1911 (8025) | 1 month ago | Zazen is beautiful! When I read through your articles in your website, I couldn't get it properly. I read, re read and just could get the feel of it. It would require my serious inclination and understanding to be able to practise zazen. This is cetainly a higher state of mind and difficult to reach. But I will, because I want to.
Thanks Derek.
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mimpi1911 (8025) | 1 month ago | Thanks. Can I do it through online guidance or i need to get help from real people?
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derek_a (5041) | 1 month ago | Well, it can make a difference if you attend a meditation class. It can help with the understanding of what it is to meditation, but I don't think it is absolutely essential.
What is more important in my experience is to be committed to just doing it on a daily basis. Being committed means, regardless of how you feel, or whatever comes up, to do the meditation. Meditation itself, evolves and there is no way to do it wrong, because it isn't a case of the right or wrong way to do it. If you sit in meditation for say 20 minutes, and you only manage to stay focused for 3-4 of those minutes, you have made headway. It may feel as if you have not "done it right", but this is the ego speaking in its attempt to get you to abandon the practice. Ego always feels threatened by a developing awareness of Self.
All that is needed it a decision to sit in meditation at a certain time, and then do it regardless. Once a day to begin with, but twice is better. The practice will teach you itself, experientially. Your (ego) mind will resist with impulses to procrastinate and reasons of why you can't/won't want to do it, but that is OK. Just notice the "rants" of the ego and meditate anyway. It is an act of discipline, and the discipline grows a little stronger with each meditation practice. - Derek
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4. kalav56 (1880) | 1 month ago | Nice discussion topic mimpi!Happy Diwali to you and your parents. As far as the question is concerned, if it is some loss or bereavement no words are enough and God forbid your friends have such a situation. Otherwise, as regards a serious issue in life, a personal conflict, a mental trauma or so, I feel the best way to help a person is to be a very silent but receptive listener.For example, if a person is coming to you with a problem in hand and as an uninvolved third party you feel that she may have also had in a way contributed to that personal conflict, you must not say anthing at that point of time.We would have to understand that the person is sharing her mental trauma only as an outlet and not really looking for solutions. Solutions can be suggested objectively but this should be done only later and if asked.I have alwas been a very patient listener and look at it from the friend's point of view first at the time she is sharing.As I said this rule cannot hold good for calamities and at that point of time just being there with them and keeping quiet is the only thing we can do.
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mimpi1911 (8025) | 1 month ago | You still here!? When are you going to Chennai? I know today is not the right time to start this post but something forced me to. hope you understand Kala. Happy Diwali to you as well.
What you said there is actually right. By being good listeners and not snapping at our friends even when we know that he is at fault helps a lot. I personally, try to do that as well. I know for sure because it works for me. An empathetic shoulder means so much. Taking things from friend's point to view and then gradually trying to alien ourselves and take an impartial stand is a great way to comfort.
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5. Binthu (2906) | 1 month ago | Hi Mimpi,
So many peoples used to have the good friends and some times that friends too having to be hurts due to many more reasons. So we have to comfort them from this type of hurting because of their good friendships. Most of the times I have lots of friends they sued to gets lots of hurts from various matters, that time I used to comfort them to have more relax and they find the way to become cool and away from the mental worries. I used to give some kinds of supports of words to them and some times to shake the hands of them, both would give the supports to them to feel the good and forgets their hurting. So supports is one of the best things and it should be given to the hurting friends by the good friends is mandatory.
Have a nice day.
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6. larish (1399) | 1 month ago | I have been through a lot of this comforting moments with friends who have been hurt terribly. It can be mending a broken heart, failed grades, misunderstanding with their parents and losing a love ones. Since I always try to comfort the people I know. I only learned one thing --- it's not the words that will ease them but the presence/company that is shown. You are right silence is better than trying to say so many things to hurting friend/love ones. It is also best that you practice your listening skills and the touch therapy - a tap on the shoulder, holding hands and hugging can make a difference.
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mimpi1911 (8025) | 1 month ago | Loved your thoughts there. Touch therapy could act wonders! A little hug, a little smile, a little pat can make a difference certainly.
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7. manong05 (2932) | 1 month ago | I must admit that giving words of comfort is not always for me. There are times when all I can do is just to be with my friend and not say anything at all except to let him know that whatever happens I'll be there. In many cases our presence is all that is needed and is comforting in itself.
enjoy life!
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mimpi1911 (8025) | 1 month ago | Thanks manong. Nothing like warm presence and silent support of friends. This has comforted me as well in times of griefs.
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8. JenInTN (3487) | 1 month ago | Hi mimpi! I just try to be there for them if they need to talk. I don't usually give advice unless they ask for it but I am a heck of a listener. I think that sometimes people just need someone to talk to that they know isn't going to run and tell everyine else about what was said. I know I have needed a friend like that a couple of times. I do offer as much comfort as I can.
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9. gabs8513 (19271) | 1 month ago | It really depends Mimpi on the actual Person and why they are upset, like I have a Friend who needs to talk when she is upset so I will sit and listen to her and let her get it of her System, if it was my Daughter I would hold her and hug her while she is crying and letting it all out Other People just want to be hugged while they cry and let it out without talking I would go by the Person and deal with it that way And you just being there yes it helps a lot as they know someone is there and they are not alone
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mimpi1911 (8025) | 1 month ago | That's so true. Its subjective and works differently for different person. i myself would want a good listener who would listen no matter what just by being there all through.
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10. krajibg (2504) | 1 month ago | Hi mimpi,
I just do not know what to say. Similar to your situation.
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