What is time?

Completly agree with you ra1787... the process of searching for an answer is the best part. I was expecting a more philosophic answer rather a scientific one. But anyway, the scientific part is part of the picture and it is needed in order to have the whole picture.

I was describing our common sense about time and in the end I said there are people who think different. That's why I asked, to see if you share the common sense about causality and the linear flow of time or not. And if not, what do you think? Nevertheless you wonderfully described it in your own words.. wake up, eat, shower, work, my lot, the day you were born, etc. A lot of separate events. But this is just your memory. In reality all your actions are flowing one into another. You can hardly say where waking up ends and where getting off the bed begins. Life is a continuous process, not at all a chain of separate events. When somebody is asking you what did U do today, your answer, everybody's answer will be well I had a meeting, i had lunch with Jessica, I watched a movie in the afternoon and then I came here. You perfectly know you did a lot of other things today in between the mentioned ones but you remember the most significant ones. After all is stupid to say, I waited for the green light, I crossed the street, threw my bus ticket in a bin, walking 4 steps straight then 5 steps at the right. Nobody will listen anymore... Well, that's how the mind works. That's why some human minds invented the so called 'History', which records separate, significant events while the time is passing by . The mind is remembering events and not life as it was lived by you and is attaching time limits to each one event. From that action of yours to that one. From the moment you saw him until you were in your car kissing him. Here is the problem. Our minds are Fragmenting the reality perception. Including time. Because if you look at it the other way, as a continuous flow, you will not need to put markers and define events. When you are looking at the flowing water of a river maybe you can say where the river begins. But you cannot say where the water begins. Right? What I want to say is that whenever we are judging the present by comparing it with the past, our mind is using a fragment of our memory, arbitrary limited which was already a fragment of reality in the moment of memory recording. A double fragmentation... Pretty insecure, isn't it? There's another thing. We are ONLY experiencing time by the 'now' moment. All the rest are theories and calculations. From the perspective of 'now', there is no past. Because it doesn't exists. It existED, not anymore. Now is now. Well...so what's the catch? The catch is that we should stop defining ourselves by what we did before and start defining ourselves by what we are doing in this very 'now' moment, the only possibility to meet time that EXISTS. The beauty of this is that... Now is timeless, you cannot measure 'now' and you cannot calculate now. Leaving our life now, without comparing it with the past and without projecting it in the future will put us outside time for real. And by the way, not time is making you old. Your perception about time makes you grow older.

goodness VVroom. i never thought you would be this serious.
ok i'm off here now...i can't share anything...my eyes says, it's time for me to sleep. i'll come back here if i have something logical to share

cool. I am waiting for you. And don't worry, I am not so serious. Life itself is not so serious as we think. I have a lot of fun trying to find answers.:) Peace!

ok ok
but you make me up!
my notifiers came in buzzing and thought another novel was written so i was excited to come back here

hahaha sorry VVroom, i was all actually joking. i have a light mood today so i didn't answer discussions seriously. i totally understand what you mean. there are situations that time play with us. it's like we are waiting for tomorrow because it'll be our future but that future will soon after become the past. so yeah, it's not a cycle because we can never go back to the past but it's a chain bridging the past, now, and future. i hope this one is more sensible hehe...

i mean "woke me up" not "make me up" error

Sorry if this explanation is a little fuzzy, I'm kinda tired. I expanded on it here: http://www.mylot.com/w/di...

I am familiar with what you are saying. It put my mind on fire, some time ago. Don't forget though, it is just a model of reality. And when science guys are creating a model, in fact they are creating a convention, they all agree about (well, not exactly all). It's the same old story to know ABOUT things and not to know the things as they are. But my intention was to go into a more philosophical and psychological direction and to make people think about getting OUT of time ( time= the concept of time from each mind and not the time from physics aka chronological time). Which is a different thing and can look esoteric somehow. It's about what our mind thinks in deep about time, in terms of everyday life. The main idea is that a certain chronological time, say 10 seconds can represent 10 seconds in psychological time, couple of month or 0,0001 seconds. I repeat, in psychological time. It's not about experiencing time backwards from how we do today, it's about NOT experiencing time ( actually, to experience it as few as possible) with our mind. It looks like a gateway for a longer youth, and therefore a longer life in chronological time, just by using the power of our brain. And that gateway is the now moment. Can you put dimensions on now moment in the model you described? Can you measure how long is 'now'? You know and I know the result is zero. And zero... can be also infinity, right? Which means the 'now' moment is timeless, right? You see the difference between dividing our life in events and dividing our life in 'now' s? Which by the way is more realistic, it's how our life flows.

It's true humans always perceive cause-effect; the point is: the cause is not what they think it is. Let me put it this way. You' re bungee jumping. The cause of you falling towards ground is not gravity but THE VERY FIRST THOUGHT about going to bungee jump. Which could have been, who knows when back in time. An 'event' is very hard to define this way ( see the post before this one). Without thinking in 'events', we can reprogram ourselves to think in 'now' s. Got my point?

I forgot something (yucks, I've just added some psychotime to my brain, lol). Both in 3d and Xd model, 'now' remains the same as described before. How about also a gateway to multidimensional realities?

Great comparison, bird 123. A play on the world's stage... In a play, the most important line is the one which is happening now!

Well guys, being convinced that the concept of time does not attract too many speakers, I will just end the circle with something that will probably make a lot of you think that my brain is mambo jumbo- ing with you. But he is not. So here it is: Time doesn't exist!

the stick goes once again to lightwarrior!