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Emotional brain first, logical brain after? Or vice versa? email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people4 weeks ago

Something difficult, upsetting, stressful, challenging occurs. Do you first feel an emotional reaction and then settle down and figure out how to tackle it? Or do you think of a solution first and then only realize what your emotions are after you've solved it? Or is there some third possibility? Can a person do both at the same time?

And if you are (or were) in a relationship, is your partner the same way you are? Or the opposite? If you are opposites, how do you deal with it?

If you start off emotional, do you like that somebody comes in with a rational approach? Or do you find it annoying?

If you start off logical, does it drive you nuts that the other person is hurt or angry or whatever? Do you wish they would calm down and start thinking?

Hi Cynthia, is this hard enough for a Friday? Or should I put on my flak jacket and start talking about racism?

 
 
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1. DivaGirl (42)   ranked 18,973 out of 35,119 in people   4 weeks ago

I think I'm often guided by my emotional brain, since it's braver and more authentic than my logical brain. My logical brain is big on avoiding "mess" as much as possible.


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

I'm guided by both, but the logical side kicks in first.

 
2. myLot reputation of 92/100. Irishfrndly65 (7306)   ranked 491 out of 35,119 in people   4 weeks ago

I have an emotional reaction first, I have to FEEL it, then come down from it. It doesn't take me long, unless it's VERY upsetting to me. I'm pretty practicial, as well, but I have to FEEL first. You know the rest of this so I won't go into it. ha


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Sometimes I don't really know how I feel about something until days later. It's kind of weird...


myLot reputation of 92/100. Irishfrndly65 (7306)   ranked 491 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Now that would be weird to me. I think I get more bombarded with emotion. I may not be able to pick out the core of it for a while. If that makes sense. Uhm....like...I get really angry over something and it may take me a couple of hours or a day to figure out that I am angry because..blah blah blah. Then..that anger might have a core of hurt. So....I guess mine are pretty complex sometimes, or layered? LOL! Are you really confused now?


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

POKE

In my case, it's buried deep down, but I know something doesn't feel right and I figure out what it is and why it is later.

 
3. myLot reputation of 93/100. therisingsun (309)   ranked 7,488 out of 35,119 in people   4 weeks ago

My style of showing response is not just the way of emotions though I'm very much emotional but my preferences will always in with a logical and natured kind of behaviour. On any condition, I prefer to sit alone and start thinking over it for the solution. I always prefer that as emotions can't lead us to the practically an logically accepted conclusions. Cheers


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Where do you start though? Feel the emotion and then go with a logical solution? Or work out the solution first and then the emotion hits you?

 
4. myLot reputation of 93/100. gabs8513 (19290)   ranked 4,674 out of 35,119 in people   4 weeks ago

Well after the last 2 Days when I did what I did to my Laptop, the anger took over first lol I was saying not nice words to the Laptop at all, I then had to put it away as I would not have a Laptop at all if I hadn't the Window looked good, but then hours later yep I calmed down, read my Book, then it all got sorted the next Day thumbup


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Oh dear, I hope your laptop didn't take it personally.:-)


myLot reputation of 93/100. gabs8513 (19290)   ranked 4,674 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Hmmmm not to sure as it is not doing what I want it to do right now blink


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

My friend Lee, who never had trouble with her computer, always told me I had to talk nice to it. lol


myLot reputation of 93/100. gabs8513 (19290)   ranked 4,674 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

I had tried that but the stupid thing still did not work, I even apologized for being so blond and downloading this stupid Software when I am normally so careful but nope the silly thing was stubborn and stayed non working blink


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Dang, I really would have thought the apology would have fixed everything. blink


myLot reputation of 93/100. gabs8513 (19290)   ranked 4,674 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Lol nope the Laptop would not accept the apology what soever confused


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Sad, but maybe you need to bribe it with a memory upgrade or something! lol


myLot reputation of 93/100. gabs8513 (19290)   ranked 4,674 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

No the Bribe was get the Operation System back on lol


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Behave and I'll let you live? Or I'll get you medical treatment and then you'd better behave?


myLot reputation of 93/100. gabs8513 (19290)   ranked 4,674 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

It had the Medical Treatment yesterday and to stay in Hospital for a couple of hours


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Well I hope it feels better soon!

 
5. myLot reputation of 72/100. mrfdg1972 (515)   ranked 4,121 out of 35,119 in people   4 weeks ago

lOGIC FIRST, and evaluate with my emotional brain later. Logic is a scientific approach, emotions are for humane considerations.


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

That's what I do too, but the emotional part isn't really a conscious thing. The emotional reaction just often doesn't hit me until later.


myLot reputation of 72/100. mrfdg1972 (515)   ranked 4,121 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

NObody's perfect, and you can not make everybody happy.


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

True.


myLot reputation of 72/100. mrfdg1972 (515)   ranked 4,121 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

but we have to take into emotional considerations our family first.


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

First before yourself? Or first before everybody else?


myLot reputation of 72/100. mrfdg1972 (515)   ranked 4,121 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

50% for me and 50% for my family


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

That makes sense, because you need to take care of your family, but in order to do that, you also need to take care of yourself.


myLot reputation of 72/100. mrfdg1972 (515)   ranked 4,121 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

do i get a point now?


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

5 points and some chocolate cake!


myLot reputation of 72/100. mrfdg1972 (515)   ranked 4,121 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

ok that was sweet of you.


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Any time!:-)

 
6. myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3245)   ranked 829 out of 35,119 in people   4 weeks ago

I think this varies with the situation.

Like most women, in a crisis situation, the logical, practical side kicks in and does what is necessary, and only when the crisis is over does the emotional side kick in. A woman deals with the emergency first, then feels completely drained and wonders how on earth she coped once she has done the necessary. This has happened to me quite a number of times - cool, calm and collected, followed by drained but satisfied.

In most cases, my logical, practical side reacts first (surprise?) Even when something/someone annoys me, the logical is to the forefront.

But this isn't always the case. In my work, when I am asked to do something new, my immediate reaction is "I can't do that!" I sit there, full of emotion, wondering why on earth a 73 year old is faced with this type of thing. Why would I be asked to do THAT? What can't someone else do it? That is an impossibility. Who do they think I am? Why don't they get a professional? It's time for me to give up! This is too hard! I go and grizzle to my hubby, who just smiles and says I'll do it in no time, so just get started. (He knows me better than I know myself) Once I actually get started, my logical, practical side takes over and the job is well under way.

My emotional side works very quickly when I see a baby (I still get clucky - I always wanted seven) when my hubby approaches, when I'm talking with children, when I see a child being belittled . . . many other occasions . . .

So maybe I am not as logical as I thought?
Maybe I am both together.
Hopefully the right one asserts itself at the right time.


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Separated at birth?

Sounds rather like me on all counts. Logical approach to a crisis, overwhelmed feeling when somebody asks me to tackle something new, emotional response to something or somebody that makes me happy. Maybe I'm not so logical after all. lol

Actually, the logical kicks in in unpleasant situations. I need to deal with them first, feel them afterward. Maybe it's a defense mechanism.


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3245)   ranked 829 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

"the logical kicks in in unpleasant situations" That has caused me to think (ouch!)

I'm trying to decide what my reactions were during the 22 years of abuse. Were they logical or emotional? If they were logical, they were lying. I believed I was so evil that I deserved it: I thought it was normal. If they were emotional, I was not conscious of emotion. I think I was void of emotion. Was it my "acceptance" side? (how many sides are there?)

Now you have me thinking more . . . . .
If my reaction then was logical, and also false, how reliable is logic?
Maybe that is why I can't follow some people's logic!
So is that also true of emotions?
Evidently. Emotions often lead to problems, so how reliable is emotion?

Where does that leave us?


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Confused?

Emotions can lead us astray. Logic can lead us astray. Both can be based on wrong assumptions, possibly caused by bad experiences. For example, fear and inability to trust due to a past betrayal may lead us to refuse to trust somebody who is completely trustworthy. Logic can fail us if it is based on incorrect assumptions. I don't know how possibly it is for somebody who has been emotionally damaged (and hasn't worked through it to some kind of a "healthy" state) to make a sound emotional choice. Or for somebody who has been taught a bunch of falsehoods to reach a truly logical conclusion when the falsehoods are the basis for their line of reasoning.

But I do think most people, if they use both together will come to the correct conclusion - for them.


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3245)   ranked 829 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

OK so now the problems of the world are solved, we can get on with life?
No more hard thinking?


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Oh, I wish. Here I go, walking over to the lake with a chocolate bar and I'm going to just watch the geese until it's time to go home.:-)


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3245)   ranked 829 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Hhhmmmm I hope the geese behave themselves.
We don't want you learning wrong behaviour and getting wrong ideas.

If it is a dark (very dark) chocolate bar, or if it is just dark with ginger bits, you could send me one too. There is a kookaburra sitting on my clothes hoist, so I'll watch it while you watch the geese. (One kooka on its own can't get into mischief)


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

No fair, I have to go to the zoo to see a kookaburra....

Dark chocolate with ginger, hm, intriguing, must investigate.


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3245)   ranked 829 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Just another reason to come visit . . .

 

myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Will you let me sing the kookaburra song? happy


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3245)   ranked 829 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Of course - even off key.
In fact, I'll sing it too, and when they laugh at us we'll laugh with them.
They laugh at me most mornings.


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

:-)
Holly has to come too!


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3245)   ranked 829 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

A trio is even better. Maybe the two of you will drown me out - better still.


myLot reputation of 91/100. nyhollyjean (318)   ranked 2,580 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Thanks for including me!:-) I guarantee that I can probably drown you out! lol But, I've forgotten the kookaburra song--somebody's going to have to remind me.


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3245)   ranked 829 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

I think Dawn probably means "Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree-ee" but we could just burst our sides laughing like the kookas. That is fun. I've done it with a bunch of teenagers.


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

yeah that's the one but I'll have to learn the words over again...


myLot reputation of 91/100. nyhollyjean (318)   ranked 2,580 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

I remember now! But, I'd be happy doing the laughing too--do they laugh back at you, when you laugh at them? And do they allow kookaburras to wander the grounds of the local "funny" farm, as that's where we will surely wind up when they cart us off...


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3245)   ranked 829 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

The same (?looks the same?) kookaburra is on my clothes hoist every morning, so I wonder if he/she has a nest in one of our trees.

We have beautifully coloured parrots and other birds here, but I think the nice, plump kookburra is more beautiful than any. They are so different from other birds.

Sorry, but I've never had one laugh back at me. The ones at Australia Zoo are quite tame, but they just look back at you wondering what sort of loony you are when you try to imitate them.

Don't worry about the funny farm. We are a weird mob anyway - didn't you know?


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Got galah?


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3245)   ranked 829 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Mostly Rainbow Lorikeets - but if we three are standing there laughing, we'll have three Galahs too.


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

:-)

 
7. myLot reputation of 94/100. cobrateacher (4184)   ranked 1,028 out of 35,119 in people   4 weeks ago

Hi, D!
John and I both start with logic. Then, when things are taken care of, we both totally go to pieces! After a while, we laugh over it, but it's pretty tough until that time!
cool
crylol


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Interesting. I can't even imagine being in sync like that. I'm analyzing the problem and he's all hot an bothered.


myLot reputation of 94/100. cobrateacher (4184)   ranked 1,028 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

We might be better off if we were to balance each other a little more, but we've been together so long, it's just another thing we're used to.


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Sometimes I could do with a little being in sync...


myLot reputation of 94/100. cobrateacher (4184)   ranked 1,028 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Hmmm... Is the grass ALWAYS greener elsewhere?


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

maybe, but then there's the saying, that most people, if given a choice between their problems and somebody elses problems would choose their own...


myLot reputation of 94/100. cobrateacher (4184)   ranked 1,028 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Absolutely!


myLot reputation of 91/100. nyhollyjean (318)   ranked 2,580 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Sweetie--you're too big to fit in the sink any longer, anyway.;-)


myLot reputation of 94/100. cobrateacher (4184)   ranked 1,028 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Huh???


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3245)   ranked 829 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

sync - sink - good one Holly!


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

ha for all you know I'm a little person...


myLot reputation of 91/100. nyhollyjean (318)   ranked 2,580 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Sorry about the lame joke--thank you Cloud for coming to my rescue, as it did appear out of context, since it was so far down in the box.:-) Cobrateacher probably thinks I've lost my bloomin mind--well, she wouldn't be the first! lol

Dawn--I know you may want to think you are a little person, but I've seen your pix--5'8", isn't that little. Or at least not little enoough to fit in any sink I've ever seen.:-)


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

I fit in the big round sink, the one next to the shower. Not so much the ones up on the counter...

 
8. myLot reputation of 82/100. sparkofinsanity (3446)   ranked 5,392 out of 35,119 in people   4 weeks ago

Well even if you're dead, there's always an emotional reaction to situations like this...that falling out of the bottom of your stomach if nothing else. In my case though, while that's happening and I'm stepping aside to give my stomach room to fall, my brain immediately goes into high gear to process and 'fix' the situation.
So I guess I do both at the same time though the brain continues to work after the emotional reaction is over. It's only once the situation has been dealt with that I go looking for the bottom of my stomach and the emotionalism takes over as after shock. I used to think I was weird that way. My hubs on the other hand is all emotional reaction and no rationalization until after the fact. Makes him easy to play with.............LOL


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Why yes, that is an advantage, come to think of it. Those expressions can be quite priceless sometimes! lollollol


myLot reputation of 82/100. sparkofinsanity (3446)   ranked 5,392 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

winkthumbup

 
9. myLot reputation of 95/100. hora_fugit (744)   ranked 2,822 out of 35,119 in people   4 weeks ago

Challenges make me emotional. And that makes me accept them. That done, my logical brain takes over the charge. Other one does pop in sometimes, again, but only if I feel like giving up. Lethal combination---> Do or die!

So bad I can't answer the partner questionsad Was going to drop the discussion altogether, but why would I?whistle


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

emotions first, then logic?


myLot reputation of 95/100. hora_fugit (744)   ranked 2,822 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Mine is an emological brain, that's why emotions always come first... wink


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

Ooh, must go Google big word. Um, is it a real word? confused


myLot reputation of 95/100. hora_fugit (744)   ranked 2,822 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

I love the way you goto Google:) Well I had made it up for myself. But definitely it's real for I found it on urban dictionary. I am not THAT emological!doh


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

I didn't find it confused

 
10. myLot reputation of 79/100. zhangfzoe (410)   ranked 6,955 out of 35,119 in people   4 weeks ago

In the situation you mentioned above, I think I will react with emotionl brain first. I think this is the better way for me. After I release the pressure I encounter with could I calm down and figure out a solution. During the logical brain, I can focus my strength on solving the problem.If vice versa, it's painful for me and useless to react in emotional brain.


myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (9499)   ranked 410 out of 35,119 in people  4 weeks ago

It's useless to try and react in a way that's uncomfortable for you!

 
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