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myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines4 weeks ago

if you commute daily to and form work, i'm sure you had an experience with our badjao brothers and sisters who ride jeeps and buses asking for alms. for those who are unaware, the badjaos are popularly known as the "sea gypsies" of the sulu and celebes seas. they are generally boat dwellers whose religion is ancestor worship mixed with islamic influences.the term "badjao" is a malay-borneo word which connotes "man of the seas" or orang laut in bahasa malayo.the Badjaos call themselves as sama laus(sea sama). badjaos maybe divided into two groups: the southern badjao and the northern badjao. the southern badjao is located on the islands of Tawi-Tawi, Sibutu and Semporna(Sabah) while the northern badjao is located in Siasi, Jolo, Basilan and Zamboanga.

now, personally, i'm unsure how they got here in manila in the first place. what they usually do is board jeepneys or buses in twos or threes and pass around envelopes with a handwritten notes to passengers saying that they are badjaos and are asking for financial help to buy food. while one of them is doing this, the other will sing and play music with a drum made of discarder aluminun cans and canisters while the third does a tribal dance. at first, i use to give my change to but have realized that that is not the proper way to help them. i once heard a story from a fellow passenger that in the 70's, the badjaos were already doing this practice in manila only and then mayor lopez, rounded up these badjaos, feed them, gave them shelter, and provide relief assistance to them and send them of to mindanao again. now, as i write this, i'm not even sure if those that ride jeepenys and buses and do this 'ancestral' song and dance number really even belong to the badjao tribe but i can them as i see them. i just think that giving alms is nto the right way to help these people out. i just hope that there will be a proper government agency or private organization that will help them out. so, what's your take on them and to your mind, what is the proper way to help them out?

cheers!!!

 
 
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1. gaiza12 (98)   ranked 3,610 out of 4,223 in philippines   4 weeks ago

I'm from Cebu and there are also a lot of badjao's here who are also doing the same thing, or sort of the same. They ride jeeps and ask for alms or when the traffic lights goes red they would go to the end of the jeeps and sing or dance and would ask for some money to buy food, some even bring baby's so the passengers will have mercy on them. They even touches you and force you to give money, even with a very dirty hand.. well anyway, i am aware of a law that we should not give anything to these people, i think it's called the anti Mendicancy law. And i think the DSWD's are doing their jobs to get those people out the streets. It's really risky for them to be staying it the streets. And i hope they will really get rid of them so as no brothers of ours will be harmed.


myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  4 weeks ago

i mean i know most of the badjaos were displaced because of the war in mindanao but some were forced to leave because of the lack of jobs. really surprised that they are also in cebu but come to think of it, cebu is nearing to mindanao than manila so there is a greater probability that they would end up in nearby provinces and not just here in manila.

appreciate your thoughts gaiza.

cheers!!!


myLot reputation of 38/100. lodyllesovo (227)   ranked 1,326 out of 4,223 in philippines  4 weeks ago

I think that most of these Badjaos will be in the most of the cities especially now that people will be so giving since Christmas is coming. I strongly feel that someone should talk to the leader of these Badjao so that they will not live in the streets anymore, especially here in Cebu. I think that is also the reason why some of the orphaned/abandoned children are also asking alms in the streets. They have their "mentors"...


myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  4 weeks ago

agree with you there lody.

christmas is a time for giving but hopefully people, not just badjaos mind you, won't abuse this time of month. surprised that there are many badjaos in cebu as well but now that i think more about it, cebu is nearer to mindanao than manila so the transport fare is cheaper. the people behind these badjaos might be earning more with the lower transportation fare.

thanks for joining the discussion and welcome to mylot.

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2. myLot reputation of 88/100. rsa101 (7315)   ranked 49 out of 4,223 in philippines   4 weeks ago

I have never seen one although I commute daily to work. I feel sorry for them that they are forced to become beggars like this. I am also wondering how they were able to reach our place and how they were able to afford being here because from what I know they came from Mindanao.


myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  4 weeks ago

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myLot reputation of 88/100. rsa101 (7315)   ranked 49 out of 4,223 in philippines  4 weeks ago

Yeah I guess government should take into this problem because they do not deserve to be on the streets to beg. They belong to the minority groups but they should not go like that and instead the government should help them preserve their way of life because they are fast losing their identity by doing this.


myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  4 weeks ago

agree that our government must find a way to help not just the badjaos but all those who have to beg to eat. poverty has struck its ugly head one too many times in our everyday lives.

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3. myLot reputation of 98/100. aseretdd (6841)   ranked 1 out of 4,223 in philippines   4 weeks ago

I live in Angeles City... and there are also a lot of badjaos here... but they do not hand out envelopes or dance... they just beg outright... they live under bridges near the river... and that is just so dangerous... especially when there is a strong typhoon...

I sure hope the local and national government would do something about this... because begging is so not in their culture... i remember the Aetas usually go down form the mountains to the city to beg... but that is only during the Christmas season... and they go back after...


myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  4 weeks ago

hi tere! hope you don't mind calling you that name. seems appropriate though. lol!!!

yeha, if you are from angeles city, you have your fair share of seeing aetas begging in the streets. i think they started begging after the pinatubo explosion. i remember i joined a relief operation and during the trip to pampanga, there were a lot of aetas in streets literally stopping our convoy to beg. we had no recourse but to actually stop and start giving away the relief bags that we have. it was such an eye-opening experience. we made multiple trips that whole month.

about the badjaos, i just think that the face the same problems that the aetas face. they are taken advantage of and driven to beg to earn a living and be able to fend for themselves.

thanks for joining.

cheers!!!


myLot reputation of 98/100. aseretdd (6841)   ranked 1 out of 4,223 in philippines  4 weeks ago

Some aetas now sell crops like sweet potato, cassava, and other vegetables to earn money... they have a specific area... i think that is a lot better than begging... but some still resort to that...


myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  4 weeks ago

that's good to hear. at least they are working to earn money and not just simply begging. can't balme some of them who still choose to beg. some are so desperate that it seems that is the only way for them to get out of poverty.

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4. myLot reputation of 93/100. solared (844)   4 weeks ago

Seems to me it's possible those people are not the same you speak of and could very well be con artists.

Here in the states we have beggars and lots of them are fake, I used to see this one guy drive up in a BMW park it at mcdonalds, go change into homeless clothes in the bathroom, then go out on the street and beg for 8 hours a day up and down the street.


habagamihan (21)  4 weeks ago

Thats cool! Maybe he is a fortune 500 company owner who just want to experience how to be a poor! Sounds like Hollywood.


myLot reputation of 93/100. solared (844)  4 weeks ago

No he is a con artist, he is no owner because he did this like 6-8 hours a day, mon-fri, I heard he finally got arrested, but I don't know for sure, and no it's in Georgia the Atlanta metro area is not like Hollywood.


myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  4 weeks ago

hi solared.

yeah, read something similar. an american actually passes himself as a blind vietnam veteran and asked for donations from passers-by. not so sure when or where this exactly happened in the states but it was a big news in the net at the time it came out.

the guy that you mentioned is a con artist. pure and simple. we have similar cases here in manila as well. just last night while i was aboard a bus on my way home, a guys rides it and goes upfront and tells that he is from one of the southern provinces here in our country and is collecting alms to buy ferry tickets to get home to his wife and kids. the guy said he has travelled to manila to apply for work but was given the run around by his employers and ended up not having work at all and living in the streets. the guy further said that he already approached a number of government and local agencies and was constantly turned down with his request for financial assistance. funny thing is what gave the guy away that he was a con artist and he was giving us nothing but lies was that one of the passengers recognized him and it seems that he gave a different account of his misfortune. the passenger called out the con artist and the con artist just brushed him off and went down the next bus stop as if nothing happened.

talk about trying to put one over everyone else. the nerve of the con artist!!!


myLot reputation of 58/100. borg_queen (1919)   ranked 3,437 out of 4,223 in philippines  4 weeks ago

lol Maybe he's an undercover FBI agent. You should have reported him, though.


myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  4 weeks ago

for habagamihan, you totally missed the point on this one man. no worries though. its all good.

for borg queen, i'm assuming that you're referring to solared's post but i think fbi agent's have better things to do than pretend that they are beggars. lol!!!

thanks for chiming in.

cheers!!!

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5. myLot reputation of 97/100. izathewzia (3493)   ranked 2,042 out of 4,223 in philippines   4 weeks ago

I pity these people. They have a much brighter future if they do what they should be doing at their age - either studying or working. But not asking alms. Because life nowadays are really hard. If you don't work you will most probably not eat. And if you don't study, you will not most probably find a better way to earn a living.


myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  4 weeks ago

hi izathewzia!!!

yes, i pity these people as well but aside from pity, i do feel a certain responsibility to them to try and help them out even in my own little way. certainly we can't help them all, that would be great but impossible with the meager resources that we have but simply helping out a family of badjaos will do. it is a good start in my opinion.

agree with you that having a good education is a start to ease out of poverty but i think the opportunity to study is not available to these people and hopefully the government can do something about this. the government must also consider that what they teach our badjao brothers and sisters is something that they can use in their everyday lives. something practical and something that they can use in their lives.

thanks for joining.

cheers!!!

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6. drewojeda (88)   4 weeks ago

Hi, I'm from Rizal. Honestly, most of the time I get pissed by these people I often just ignore them when their asking for some money. On the other hand, you'll feel a bit pity to them. Sometimes I gave them, but most of the time not or I'll just give them food instead of money. If we're going to look a little deeper on the reasons why they are scattered around the metro, the government should be looking on ways on settling them on certain places where they can be more productive.


myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  3 weeks ago

hi drewojeda.

gettign pissed is but normal, maybe they caught you in a bad day. feeling pissed off and pity for these badjao kids at different times is alright. agree with you that it is better to give them food instead of money. i think that is a better alternative. also agree with you that the government should look for ways to help them out. providign a permanent resettlemetn area for them and giving them livelihood is a good start.

thanks for participating.

cheers!!!


drewojeda (88)  3 weeks ago

No problem buddy, it's so nice that we are somehow able to discuss such topics concerning our fellow citizens.


myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  3 weeks ago

agree with you there drewojeda.

discussing about such topics is only one step. hopefully, we can follow it up by actually doing something concrete to help them out. same thing for other similar problems that we have here in the country.

cheers!!!

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7. myLot reputation of 97/100. LetranKnight25 (4117)   ranked 108 out of 4,223 in philippines   4 weeks ago

sadHello allen,

this is so sadcry,although they can be annoying when they ride in the jeeps but you just can't help pity on them. they're aren't just some Filipinos running around, these are one of the ORIGINAL Filipino tribes who had settle in our motherland.and should not just be treated like a low-life, how ever not even us here can't do a damn thing about it. It's only today in this discussion that i realized that they're actually Badjao's,most people's impression is that they're parents might use the money for gambling. sad


myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  3 weeks ago

hi letranknight.

yes, it is indeed sad and i do feel the same toward them. being part of a proud tribe, badjaos do deserve to be treated better than this. hopefully, the government and us, private citizens, can do something to help out our badjao brothers and sister. i just feel that giving alms only worsens the situation and does not help them in the lon grun.

just my opinion but i do thank you for joining the discussion.

cheers!!!

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8. myLot reputation of 58/100. borg_queen (1919)   ranked 3,437 out of 4,223 in philippines   4 weeks ago

It's better to donate to charities than to beggars on the streets. You're just encouraging them and their numbers will increase.

BTW, I envy the hair color of some Badjaos. lol


myLot reputation of 97/100. agv0419 (2059)   ranked 27 out of 4,223 in philippines  4 weeks ago

Even here in Cavite Badjaos also been here asking for alms and you can see them living in the streets. I feel pity to the children that brought by their parents asking for alms. I don't know why they want to stay here even if there situation here is worst unlike if they go back to their provinces they can survive there even if they don't have money.


myLot reputation of 58/100. borg_queen (1919)   ranked 3,437 out of 4,223 in philippines  4 weeks ago

I've heard the Aetas are doing the same. Instead of growing their own natural foods they'd rather go the easy way (if it's easy at all.)

This does not differ from Pinoys who'd rather be maids and waiters abroad instead of trying to finish school first.


myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  3 weeks ago

hi borg_queen.

agree with you that it is better to donate to charities thatn to give alms to beggars. at least, with charities, we are sure that the money or things that we are donating are put into good use.

lol at your comment about their hair color!!! always thought that the color is due to them being exposed to the sun for long stretches of time. can't be sure though.

thanks for joining. cheers!!!


myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  3 weeks ago

hi agv.

agree with you there. sometimes i think badjaos are pulling all stops to work out the pity angle with us by bringing their children while they ask for alms. personally, it doesn't work for me as i'm more inclined not to give alms to these people.

anyay, appreciate you chiming in.

cheers!!!


myLot reputation of 58/100. borg_queen (1919)   ranked 3,437 out of 4,223 in philippines  2 weeks ago

In any case it's better that they are there in Luzon than here in Mindanao. They're your problem now. lol


myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  2 weeks ago

hahaha!!!

where in mindanao are you exactly based borg_queen?

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9. myLot reputation of 98/100. calai618 (672)   ranked 2,526 out of 4,223 in philippines   4 weeks ago

I've only experience being with them in the same jeepney when I went to Taguig. A Badjao man held his daughter who was obviously having a hard time in her situation. He them asked us for money including the driver but only a few gave them some money, Some of us interviewed them as to how they got here in manila in the first place. We were also wondering why they had to bring their little children along wit them. I really didn't know if he chose not to answer the question or if he just didn't understand what we were talking about. My view is that no matter how much I want to give them money or food, I still cant help but think that there can be a group of people or syndicates who have brought them everywhere and are using them to earn money. I really believe these people don't have the money to make their way towards manila or cebu and that there are people who are funding them. As for their motives, I really don't know. This is actually not new, Aeta's start to go down from the mountains to our place every Christmas and New Year. I want to help them but I may be helping the people behind them get rich and not these poor natives...:(


myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  3 weeks ago

hi calai618!!!

you hit the nail on the head with your comment. that's what's actually stopping me from helping these badjaos out is the thought that a crime syndicate is behind them. the idea is sickening but very possible with what we have been hearing and reading in the news nowadays.

thanks for chiming in.

cheers!!!

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10. myLot reputation of 97/100. anne25penn (789)   ranked 3 out of 4,223 in philippines   4 weeks ago

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myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  3 weeks ago

great comments here anne.

come to think of it, if there was a syndicate behind these people, the syndicate wouldn't bother 'financing' these scheme if it wasn't profitable. simple math will tell us that these syndicates make big money off these hapless souls. agree with you as well that providing education to these kids is a good way to eradicate this problem. another way is to go after the syndicates who are behind these dastardly acts.

interesting story about the boy who stands at the drive-thru. i would think that someone from the restaurant, perhaps the security officer, would shoo the teenager away. regardless if the teenager is with an adult or not. anyway, if that boy was standing and doing that to customers in my restaurant, i'll definitely call the authorities and have the teenager arrested. i have to do something to protect not just my business but my customers as well.

just my thoughts.

cheers!!!


myLot reputation of 97/100. anne25penn (789)   ranked 3 out of 4,223 in philippines  3 weeks ago

The security guard stands in front of the restaurant and the other guard is at the basement parking. If you are in Manila, I can pm you the exact location and you can observe the boy from the restaurant opposite the drive through.


myLot reputation of 91/100. allen0187 (1525)   ranked 46 out of 4,223 in philippines  3 weeks ago

hi anne.

got your message. i don't frequent that place often and i certainly won't go out of my way to observe the boy. lol! seriously, i think the establishment should do something about this. it's up to them if they let the boy stay there. they certainly can't tell their customers what to do but just saying, they have to look after the image that they portray if they let vagrants loiter in their establishment like that. just my thoughts.

cheers!

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