There is nothing new on this earth ......

Australia
November 16, 2009 7:34pm CST
This doesn't really fit in p.e., but I can't be buggered looking for the right option. Lat night my partner and I watched a film called Yojimbo on our DVD player. It is an amusing Japanese b&w about an independent Samurai warrior who finds his way to a village where there are two rival gangs killing each other by droves and monstering everyone else in sight. Tonight, after NCIS, we will be watching Eastwood's Fistful of Dollars, which is about a gunfighter finding his way to a small town where there are two rival gangs killing each other by droves and monstering everyone else in sight. Tomorrow night, after Kommisar Rex, we will be watching Willis' Last Man Standing, which is about an American gunnie in the Depression finding his way to a small country town where there are two rival gangs killing each other by droves and monstering everyone else in sight. We are doing this quite deliberately for the experience of watching an original and its two remakes as a series. We will be giving votes for the best version, but I suspect Yojimbo will win both votes. What do you think of film remakes, and are they usually better or worse than the originals? Lash
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
17 Nov 09
Heya Lash! Oh, Yojimbo will come out on top vote-wise for sure! There are some amazing older movies from a number of different cultures that just never get seen by the "mainstream" and that's a shame. They're considered to be too "arty" or shock, horror, there are SUBTITLES! The Chinese are also masterful movie makers and their cinematography is breathtaking in many of the epics they've released over the last few decades. It's only now that East is truly meeting West on the movie front as well. We're all going to benefit from this! I got a bit side tracked there! lol. In a majority of cases, I've found remakes to be a disappointment. The most memorable personal example for me is "The Time Machine". The original with Rod Taylor was an absolute classic, but the remake with Guy Pearce was terrible. Our base expectations more than likely make us tougher on a remake too I think as we have an affinity for the original already. The Willy Wonka remake is another example of a bad one in my opinion. The original was canned when first released, but then ended up becoming known as a children's classic! The remake with Johnny Depp was plain WEIRD in my opinion. I'm tryiong to think of some excellent remakes, but I'm coming up blank.
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• Australia
17 Nov 09
Nice to see you James. So far Yojimbo is way in front, helped by the fact that the Fistful DVD was faulty and started skipping and freezing half way through. Tomorrow night is Bruce Baby, which I've also seen a couple of times and thought was better than Fistful, but I had never seen Yojimbo till last night, and the original is far better. Lash
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@jb78000 (15139)
17 Nov 09
lots of things can fit in p.e. remakes are variable - you tend to judge them against the original which might not really give other versions a chance as you'll already have an idea of what the film should be, specially if you saw the original a long time ago. or something.
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• Australia
17 Nov 09
I am not a movie buff by any means, but I do not think remakes are any where near as good as the originals, although the remake of an old one might be less hammy in the acting.
• Australia
17 Nov 09
If we're talking about hammy, well I guess the Japanese have a fair bit to teach us, if this movie is anything to go with. The acting was hilarious. But the story line is precisely copied in the other two films, except that being Hollywood the female interest is not involved with the Samurai, but has a husband and child - much more poignant. I think our next experiment will be to watch Seven Samurai followed by The Magnificent Seven. Lash
@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
29 Dec 09
I think it depends on the quality of the original film. In the case of these 3 the original wins hands down as it was done with a touch of humour totally missing from the remakes. I can understand a director wanting to remake a good film because he wants to imprint his version of the story but too often I think it is done by people who are too lazy to come up with their own idea for a story so they steal one. The trouble is that if the story is good and the film well made then it would be hard to remake it and do it better. Changing it can make it worse. I think the only way a remake could be better would be if the original story was good but the film was not well made and could be improved.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
17 Nov 09
Heres a suggestion grandpa lash, a film question could have gone in the film interest. Films are usually, not always, a let down after the book, and the original films are the best. Never saw the need for a remake of 'A Night to Remember' or 'The Planet of the Apes'.
• Australia
17 Nov 09
Yes, Thea, I probably could have gue3ssed that, but Film is not one of my interests and I couldn't be buggered going through the interest list to find it. I agree about the films rarely being as good as the book, but this is one of those cases of Hollywood pinching an idea from the Japanese and running with it as if it's their own. Seven Samurai/The Magnificent Seven, for example. But again, I agree, the remakes are usually not as good and often unnecessary. Lash
@jellymonty (2352)
17 Nov 09
Looks like you have way too much time on your hands gramps.. how about stopping over my crib and giving me a spanking? I usually don't like remakes as they ruin the essence of the original.
• Australia
17 Nov 09
Promises, promises, I'd need a 10.000 mile long hand to do that. Bah! Humbug. Save your pennies and come visit sunny Queensland (Beautiful one day, Perfect the next) and we'll see about that. The plane trip would probably kill me. Lash
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