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myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,944 in life 3 years ago

Someone must definitely have there heads in their butts since we are now hearing of yet another major product with a major recall. Only recently I heard the news about the massive recall of the Stork Drop Down Baby Cribs--what's alarming about this, was the fact that way back in January of this year over 500,000 of these cribs were recalled due to the chance of a baby accidentally getting caught between the mattress and the drop down side of the crib, causing suffocation and death...Well it seems, the company STILL hasn't gotten its act together as another recall was issued. In fact the Consumer Product Safety Commission has been aware of this problem for the past decade and several babies have died as a result. These types of cribs were manufactured as far back as January 1993 up to the present and with over 5 MILLION of cribs were recalled all total. What is worse is that in a news broadcast I heard the other night, these cribs were never inspected for potential problems, and obviously still aren't as they are being continually sold. Most of these cribs are manufactured by the Stork Craft company but also have the Fischer Price logo.

Now some weeks ago, there was another recall...this time is was the Maclaren umbrella strollers in which young babies/children's fingers would get caught in the hinges and resulted in their fingers being amputated.

Now what I want to know in both cases, true safety inspections weren't conducted, two, these problems were known for a number of years, three, these products were recalled in the past yet still remain on the market...why don't they just take them off the market permanently?

What are your feelings about this? If a danger is present for a product especially for a baby, and they've been recalled, why are they still sold? Do you think someone is sleeping on their jobs?



Sources:

: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5752712n

: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscp...

: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/...

 

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tags:  amputated fingers due to strollers, babies, baby products, companies, consumer
 
1. myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48710)   ranked 958 out of 32,944 in life   3 years ago

hi pye its just plain greed, and carelessness on the part of the companies and to think a large company like fisher price would not have tested all these products for any flaws before selling them boggles the mind. why did they not take the products off the market? I think greed came before caring about the babies affected. just like the diabetes drug avandia, it was shown to have caused heart problems and had side effects causing brittle bones, anemia and swelling of arms and legs. okay they posted warnings but never took it off the market, and I swelled up forty five pounds worth then had a bad fall, which smashed the bones in my shoulder and caused me to have surgery for an artificial shoulder joint. all this plus the anemia was side effects from avandia. while in the hospital I told them I would not take avandia again. so was put on metformin which is an older drug and p;roved safe. so now I have little use of my left arm due to the artificial shoulder joint due to brittle bones when I fell and all due to Avandia.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,944 in life  3 years ago

Here are those other links...they didn't work before

Yes the FDA is slack about medications as well. There are a LOT of medications with severe warnings, yet they still allow them on the market




http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscp...



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/...

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2. myLot reputation of 97/100. AmbiePam (20750)   ranked 375 out of 32,944 in life   3 years ago

If I were a new parent, my head would be spinning. Cribs, toys, food, recalls and tampering, is there anything that involves children that won't harm them? Maybe parents who have more than one child have developed a kind of 'wisdom' that allows them to think ahead and see the problems with these items, but who in the world can imagine ALL the things that could go wrong. I have a dog, and I worry enough about recalls for his things. If I had a child I would be a mess.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,944 in life  3 years ago

Yes a lot of toys in the past were recalled as well due to the lead paint issue. And yes, like you, as a pet owner I'm concerned for my "babies"--look what happened sometime ago with that massive pet food recall where a lot of pets died due to contamination in their food--even some pet toy products are dangeroussad

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3. myLot reputation of 98/100. Kashmeresmycat (2385)   ranked 78 out of 32,944 in life   3 years ago

Why they weren't inspected to begin with is mind boggling. It should have started there to begin with. Next, when there is a recall, all companies that carry that product are sent faxes, letters, warnings, websites to check and books sent out,etc., so, the companies who are carrying these products are at fault. Someone isn't doing their job (what else is new), and taking the products off the shelfs and sent back. There are usually people assigned to this position and they are suppose to check frequently for this type of problem.

When I worked for a re-sale shop for children, we were constantly checking for updates on re-calls before we even took in a crib or stroller. It was a priority.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,944 in life  3 years ago

You would think if anything needed to be inspected for safety it would be items for babies and children--I mean what are they waiting for? More innocent babies to suffer?

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4. myLot reputation of 99/100. zed_k4 (7705)   ranked 1,017 out of 32,944 in life   3 years ago

I think there should be a thorough inspection done totally. Babies and kids are very prone to all kinds of hazards, and there shouldn't be any chances left to commit error.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,944 in life  3 years ago

You would think the standards of testing products for babies/children would be so much stricter


myLot reputation of 99/100. zed_k4 (7705)   ranked 1,017 out of 32,944 in life  3 years ago

Exactly..

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5. myLot reputation of 99/100. purplealabaster (3666)   ranked 123 out of 32,944 in life   3 years ago

I think that all of the products should be put through a rigorous safety test before they are even allowed on the market. Then, I think that they should be randomly retested to make sure that the original safety and quality of the product is being maintained, especially if there are additions or "improvements" to the product. If there is a recall on any product, then I think that all of those models affected should be pulled from the shelves, and either fixed or their parts recycled for new items if possible. I do not think that any products that have been recalled should be allowed back on the shelves until the defect or safety issue is not only resolved but also tested and proven safe a set number of times for each product, such as taking a dozen strollers and putting all twelve through rigorous testing and if even one is questionable, then the product should not be allowed back on the shelves until all issues are resolved.

When they had the recall for the lead-based paint, I went through all my little one's toys and checked to see whether or not they were on the list. If there was even a little doubt in my mind, for example it was a toy with the same manufacturer on the recall list and sounded similar to the toy being recalled but the picture (if there was one) did not look exactly like the one my little one had, then I threw the toy away anyways. I would rather be safe than sorry, especially when it comes to the health and safety of my children.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,944 in life  3 years ago

What was really surprising about those lead painted toys was that is was under a very reputable company, Mattel that has been around ever since I could remember...but then too, years ago, Mattel toys were actually made in the US...no more--in fact, I don't think any toys are made here anymore but places like China
All around I don't think enough testing is done across the board, meaning that even medications are either pulled off the market or severe warnings are attached to them...so even with meds, testing, testing, testing needs to be done over and over again--don't you think?


myLot reputation of 99/100. purplealabaster (3666)   ranked 123 out of 32,944 in life  3 years ago

I definitely agree with that. I think that stricter testing should be done across the board, especially when the companies are importing their parts or products from other countries. I know that we have pretty strict standards in the United States, and I think that products made here are put through stricter and more numerous testing than products or parts that are imported. I think the imported items should be held to the same standards that products made here are held to, which would mean a lot more testing of the imported products. If these products consistently fail the testing, then the companies importing the products should have to pull the products off the shelves. Then, they should have to either import from another source that meets the quality standards and testing or hire employees and make the products here. That might serve not only to make products safer but also to boost the economy by bringing jobs back to the United States.

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6. GeminiBunniee (64)   ranked 16,971 out of 32,944 in life   3 years ago

I don't think there is a way to stop this. Humans makes mistakes. We can try to correct them by lots of inspections but there is really no way to end this absolutely. I bet no matter who it is....if they have to inspect 300 products perday, they're going to get tired and miss something. Plus most inspections are by random choice...they just pick one out of a batch. However, if there's a problem with one, they will recall all. This efficiency is what allow us to buy things at the prices that they are. Or else things will be so much more expensive. To compete with the market, some companies might even skip inspections to maintain their survival on the market. I think its important that parents check what they buy, because changing the companies is next to impossible.
I mean years back there was hardly any law about this sort of things. To call their merchandise back is already an improvement.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,944 in life  3 years ago

Yes but the thing is, these products were already recalled for safety hazards and the problem was know as far back as 1993, so why is the exact same product put out in the market again with no improvements? As far as cost issues, I think any parent would be willing to pay a lot more for a safe product, than the cheaper products that aren't made well.

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7. myLot reputation of 91/100. surfette (525)   ranked 4,394 out of 32,944 in life   3 years ago

When we used to manufacture our products right here in our country, the inspection process was quite strict. When our companies (with the familiar names that we used to be able to trust) decided that it was a better idea to manufacture in a country that did not require the inspections, no OSHA, no FDA, no Health & Safety, it all boils down to greed. I wouldn't deny anyone a profit, but when it is at the expense of our citizens, especially babies and children, it is time for the American people to say WAIT A MINUTE.

Our economy has suffered because of this greed. I feel that we all should refuse to buy this new "junk" and look for the items that were actually manufactured with safety in mind. It is time to start our own factories again, even if we have to pay a little more for the product because we will have jobs back.

We have been conditioned to accept lesser quality, but when the products become dangerous to the welfare of our little ones, we don't have to just take it. There is a manufacturer of hand made toy trains that can hardly keep up with orders because parents aren't going to buy that poisonous plastic junk made overseas. Time for people to start buying from the local manufacturers that are still here.

Just don't buy the "crappy stuff" and if the business goes out of business, maybe they will learn. Stand strong and don't support the greed.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,944 in life  3 years ago

Yes one never heard of all these recalls, not just baby/children's products but even pet foods years ago, because everything was made in our country. And yes, greed is involved since these overseas products are made cheap and sell cheap...but in some ways, we too have been at fault since we kind of expect to get things that are cheaper. The only thing I can think of is a total boycott of anything not made here...it would create more jobs for our people to manufacture things in factories here...but how many products ARE actually made here anymore. Almost every product you can think of, while under a US name is made elsewhere....like crap, can't we even make a simple thing like a light bulb anymore?thumbdown

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8. myLot reputation of 97/100. sid556 (18610)   ranked 112 out of 32,944 in life   3 years ago

I saw this on the news and thought the same things as you, Pye! Any parent who has ever lost a child knows that there should be absolutely no room for error in these products. One death should be enough to pull them all and keep them off the market until they can prove safe beyond a doubt. To have it happen over and over with the same company is bull! I have a daughter that is pregnant now and this sort of news worries her to no end. It is her first child and along with that are enough worries as any parent knows. We worry about every little thing. New parents should not have to worry about things like this. Us grandparents should not have to worry either. No one should.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,944 in life  3 years ago

Then I feel for you and your daughter...it can be nerve wracking when a woman is going to have her first ever baby and all the concerns that go with it, without worrying if products are safe. It's only been recently for instance that the FDA has indicated those plastic baby bottles (made from BFA type plastic) are toxic...like duh? Only NOW? They've been in use for decades


myLot reputation of 97/100. sid556 (18610)   ranked 112 out of 32,944 in life  3 years ago

I know. Thing is that a lot of products that used to be made right here in the states are now being made in other countries. I hadn't heard about the bottles.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,944 in life  3 years ago

Almost everything seems to be made in other countries nowadays...nuts GE which is an American company has it's bulbs made in China...Like duh? Can't we even make light bulbs anymore??confused

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9. myLot reputation of 100/100. paula27661 (11930)   ranked 32 out of 32,944 in life   3 years ago

I don’t get why when the products are tested and the faults are found the item is not been taken off the market immediately. Why does it take a child getting hurt before the faults are picked up? How can anyone with a conscience allow the effected products to continue to be sold? It is very confusing to me how there is knowledge of a concern with a product for years and although recalled the item is still on the shelves...Weird...And dangerous!


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,944 in life  3 years ago

I don't understand it either paula...sadly it sounds like one death of a child isn't enough but they seem to wait until many more babies die due to faulty products

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10. myLot reputation of 99/100. Loverbear (2348)   ranked 18 out of 32,944 in life   3 years ago

Let's face it, these inspectors are just sliding along in their jobs. It's the attitude of "They don't pay me enough money to do a good job of inspecting". It's that kind of indifference that cost lives, fingers and other body parts of innocent children. Besides the fact that they are part of the government (enough said? Look at the FDA and other "protective" agencies!). Rather than shut the company down, they allow the production of the products and then hope that they won't harm people.

It's like the production of drugs. They aren't tested enough before they are allowed for human consumption. I have to be on antibiotics before dental procedures, and I can't take penicillin. I was prescribed "Levaquin" which I now find out should have had a black box warning. Now my right shoulder is destroyed because of a drug that wasn't tested enough and didn't have adequate warnings.

When are we going to get people in the governmental overseer positions that give a crap about the public and do their jobs properly? It also makes you wonder if they are getting something under the table to allow items that are obviously dangerous to pass inspection.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,944 in life  3 years ago

Yes medications is another area that lacks proper testing. I've heard about Levaquin and there are a lot of class action lawsuits against it now due to the ripped tendon problems it causes...Cipro is another winner as it's in the same class as Levaquin. I'm beginning to wonder if by some chance I took Cipro before the warnings...some time ago my foot doctor prescribed an antibiotic..all I know it wasn't a penicillin type (which don't bother me)---I've always had joint problems before, but doable and mild...not painful...then it seemed my joints became worse and I'm wondering if I took an antibiotic like Cipro or Levaquin......will have to check my pharmacy for a history of my meds...if I did inadvertently take it, it could explain a lot how I've been feeling for at least a year


myLot reputation of 99/100. Loverbear (2348)   ranked 18 out of 32,944 in life  3 years ago

That's how I found out about my having taken Levaquin, by having a printout of the prescriptions for the past four years.

Through the years the recalls from faulty manufacturing and design are staggering, from baby furniture, formula, medications and the Ford Pinto. What happened to the good old days of pride in craftsmanship?

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