Things not to think about if you want to believe the White House Gate Crashers

@Rollo1 (16676)
Boston, Massachusetts
November 30, 2009 10:35am CST
There's been a lot of talk about Tareq and Michaele Salahi, the couple who "gate-crashed" a White House State Dinner, but a lot of it has been the Secret Service being painted as innocently inefficient yet all the while proclaiming everyone was safe enough because every guest went through a metal detector. I suppose we are all willing to believe that if we showed up at a State Dinner at the White House, it wouldn't matter if we were on the guest list or not. As long as we wore appropriate attire and didn't carry guns on our persons, we would get in okay. Alright, for the heck of it, let's believe that although we are told that death threats against this president are up 40% and although the Secret Service has no job other than protecting the president, they wouldn't check the guest list if someone wore formal evening attire and left the firearms at home. Wait a moment though. It's a State Dinner with an established guest list. Where did they sit? The seating plan had some extra places for gate crashers? I mean, a state dinner isn't like a meal at Ponderosa, right? Or do they get trays and fill up their plates from the buffet then find their own seats? Okay, let's believe they sat on someone's lap and no one noticed. Let's also not worry about what the Salahi's attorney meant when he said that their visit was cleared by the White House. Let's not focus on the fact that Tareq Salahi is a member of the board of directors of the American Task Force on Palestine and is a Palestinian lobbyist. That would be interesting enough, but if you check their website, you will find that his name has been taken off the board members list and his bio scrubbed, although a search of the site still brings up his page with his name, although it is now blank. If there's nothing to hide, why did they hide it? Nevermind, that's probably not important, don't think about it. And for that matter, let's not consider that Rashid Khalidi, the anti-Israel, terrorist sympathizer and former professor/friend of Barack Obama also once served on the board of directors of the American Task Force on Palestine. That would just make all these stories of the gate-crashing look more suspicious. And most importantly, we should never wonder why the mainstream media ignores all of these thoughts that might occur to us if we stopped believing all the official stories.
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
30 Nov 09
A slightly new angle on this and kind of an "ah-ha" moment with me. Beck made a few good points tonight with an angle I hadn't yet consiedered. Someone in the middle upper echelon of the whitehouse staff somehow over-rode the secret service. In other words, someone in between the president and the secret service allowed this to happen and I suspect more and more, knew in advance of it. This is also more and more a frightening thought. It could be anything from some simple play for a little influence, to something far more sinister depnding on where the deeper ties of this couple eventualy lead. Why did this couple go through the trouble to get that close to the president, or the vice president, or the Indian PM, or who ever they wanted to get close to? Who are these people, who are they realy and what are their ties? Who else is responsable for making/helping this happen?
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
1 Dec 09
Well, thats kid of what I was getting at annie. Someone on the inside had something to do with helping them. there is no way they could have just waltzed in like they did. What I am not so sure about yet is who are these folks, what are their ties and who helped them and why. It is pretty creepy, the president, his wife and others could in fact have been in reqal danger. Was this a dry run of some sort by someone for something? I am concerned mostly because of the ties this man has, though i'm still not entirely sure what those ties are entirely or how deep they are. I was initialy all for this couple not being charged, but the more I look at it, the more apropropriate I think it is, or that their ties should at least be more deeply investigated. As well as whoever it was that was responsable for their easy entery. Obviously these people know people, powerfull and influential people.
@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
1 Dec 09
It appears they are investigating someone in the Pentagon who was contacted by the Salahis and is an acquaintance of their attorney. She denies having told them they were invited, they say she told them they could attend. Michaele Salahi's Facebook page proclaims that they were invited, before the dinner. It may well be that it was someone in the middle as Beck suggested who greased their way in.
@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
1 Dec 09
I didn't see Beck so I didn't hear that theory. The reason this discussion came about is that I was thinking about this incident with this couple, getting this feeling there was more to it and wondering if I could or should contact someone like Beck who has the resources to find out who they really are. Not even knowing how to do that, I started internet surfing on my own and found this info out there on the guy. I hope Beck can find out more if he's onto the story. The idea that someone who has the authority to override the SS purposely let them in could be very frightening and sinister. Whoever that is, if true, could be expected to leave his employment soon, I should think. But if the guy was there because of some ties we have yet to discover, then the possible scenarios make us think of political reasons - influence, paybacks, etc - who knows? This is a very strange incident. I fear we might not get the rest of the story.
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
30 Nov 09
Wow. Some pretty interesting stuff you dug up there Rollo. Nice work, REALLY nice work! This is a far more tangled web than I realized. So, now we have the question, how "uninvited" were these folks? Was this a case of "crashing" or was it just an unexpected arrival of a guest the whitehouse would just assume not be noticed? this is going to get pretty interesting pretty quickly.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
30 Nov 09
I first noticed a photo of the Salahis and Obama in 2005. Yep, that's right, he's known them for nearly 5 years. Here's some info on it broken by the Canada Free Press. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/17310 You can't get to Salahi's bio page on the ATFP website, it says access denied, but here's a screenshot of it before they took it down http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/documents/2009/11/american-task-force-on-palestine-tareq-salahis-bio-page.php?page=1 I don't know what's fishy or how deep the rotting fish are piled up here, but it isn't what it seems if you ask me.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
30 Nov 09
Oops, sorry. That reads badly. I didn't mean I had seen the picture in 2005. I saw a photo on the net of them that was taken in 2005. I need to watch my sentence structure...
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
30 Nov 09
Tareq and Michaele Salahi posing with Barak Obama  -  Tareq and Michaele Salahi posing with Barak Obama and ohters in 2005.
He he he, like I said, this is going to get interesting. though, it will be largely ignored by most U.S. media, I doubt even Fox will touch this one. Iam posting the pic for psoterity and preservation, the more it is out there, the less likely it will be scrubbed out of existence. I have a copy saved localy too.
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@nzinky (822)
• United States
30 Nov 09
That just shows the country that no matter where the a person is you can never be to carful...I'll admit the Secreat Service didn't have a good security there but people who want to do something bad to anyone can get to anyone they want to.... And after all the flack the CIA, FBI and Secreat Service has gotten over the last year I can understand how something like to grate crasher could get in....Don't you think that People in the country so give them some rest and let them do their jobs and things like this wouldn't happen....... But Nancy Pelosi and her gang has been spreading all this crap around and its time she shut up and needs to set in the cornor for awhile....
@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
1 Dec 09
If they really did gate-crash, this sends a message to anyone thinking of infiltrating for sinister purposes. This will make them believe that they can sneak in, and that could be very dangerous.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Wow, this has gotten rather interesting. I'm curious to see if this is covered tonight on Fox News. I may actually have to watch Hannity since O'Reilly has been ignoring some pretty big stories lately. The thing that gets me is that nobody seems to care that if these people really did sneak in, they could have easily murdered Obama, Biden, and even the Indian Prime minister. Can you imagine what would happen to the US if the Indian Prime minister were murdered at a White House state dinner? If any of you guys think those metal detectors made the president safe than you know NOTHING about assassinations. All it would take is arsenic in a glass to kill anyone there and that could be hidden in a ring, coin, or watch easily. I do want to make one small correction. The Secret Service is responsible for dealing with counterfeit money and such as well as the protection of politicians and their families so they do have more than just ONE responsibility as a unit.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
30 Nov 09
I'm not sure if they're unconcerned, which would be frighteningly stupid, or if they are trying to laugh it off so the ignorant American public won't realize how badly this country could have been injured as a result of this. I'm anxious to see how this pans out, IF it pans out.
@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
30 Nov 09
I didn't mean to try to diminish the duties of the Secret Service. In fact, I think they're getting a bum rap here and being blamed for something that may not have been their error. It appears that they may not have gate-crashed, and that's now the official story, they have to go along with it. Certainly, if someone breached security they would be doing some sort of investigation into how this happened. But the White House seems unconcerned. That doesn't seem right.
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@stealthy (8181)
• United States
1 Dec 09
Also, there is photo of Obama hobnobbing with them at some Blackeyed Pea event. So maybe they are not as unknown to him as some would think. Obama is trying to be such a celebrity and likes to associate with celebrities so he brings such things on himself.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
1 Dec 09
That was at the America's Cup of Polo event. This guy Salahi was or is associated with the America's Cup of Polo. The Blackeyed Peas were also in the photo. That photo was taken in 2005, nearly five years ago. So, he knew them already. Were they gate-crashing or allowed in?
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@tlb0822 (1410)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Wow. Great research I didn't know of any of this. And now that you have mentioned this it does make you wonder why the media isn't making this information known. I found it kind of funny that the couple wasn't arrested or detained for "breaking-in" to the white house. It is true though I wondered myself were they sat. You would think that the white house would have a seating arraingment, and an accurate account of who was sitting where. Many dinners like this usually give you a predetermined choice of what you will be eating Like steak, chicken, fish. How did they know what these people wanted. Hmmm. Very very interesting. Thank you for this discussion very informative.
@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
1 Dec 09
I do wonder why the media seems so content with the official "gate-crashers who weren't dangerous so no worries" story. If they really gate-crashed this is a major security issue. If they didn't, then this is all just a little weird.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
30 Nov 09
First of all, the seating plan is irrelevant because the "gate crashers" left before the invited guests sat down to dinner. They didn't sit ANYWHERE so that mystery is solved. I'm not quite sure what you're implying here... Annie
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Wow Annie, you sure are getting defensive about this. Are you sure they didn't sit anywhere? I've heard this story many times, but I missed the part where they said the people never sat down, or that they left early. What he's implying is that there may be more to this than a couple of random reality star wannabes crashing a White House party. Why are you so eager to ignore the facts that have been brought to light?
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
30 Nov 09
Not implying, demonstrating. These people were not unknown to the president as was thought or reported initialy. It's just a very strange story annie and the more it unfolds, the stranger it gets. It may be nothing, it may be a little something, it may be a farce.....who knows just yet. I just can't help but feel after a few revelations there is far more to this than we are being told, what that is we just don't know yet.
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• United States
30 Nov 09
Wait they crashed the party but didn't EAT??? Why would anyone crash a party without going for the free meal?
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• Pilot Mountain, North Carolina
3 Dec 09
I am glad that I'm not the only one that saw this whole thing as very suspicious! Ever since this whole thing happened, I have known that we were not hearing the entire story, and I doubt very seriously that we ever will. Because the Obama administration pretty much owns the media and they report what they want to have reported. If Obama wants to sweep it under the rug, it seems like the media just bends over backwards to accommodate him. Since when did the presidency become so big that the people didn't deserve to know the truth about the things that go on? The thing that is so absurd to me is that the President seems to think the American people are stupid enough to not as questions. We all know that if someone is not on the guest list for a White House event, then there is absolutely, positively, NO WAY they are getting anywhere near the event. I believe that these individuals were invited (maybe by the President himself) and someone spoke up and the administration had to come up with a quick cover story.