believe in elements of different religions
love dancing
my own religion
not a convert
pray in nature
This year, people came out of the woodwork to try to convert me to every
By writersedge
@writersedge (22563)
United States
December 25, 2009 5:59am CST
religion under the sun. I'm not a car and if I was, I wouldn't be a convertable. Yet Christians, Buddhists, all kinds of people trying to convert me. I'm happy the way I am. The ones that are constant are the Christians. There is a spot in the Bible that says about if you go somewhere and they won't listen, shake the dust from your sandels and move on. Seems like they missed that quote. When I was in college, I went to different churches. That was my time to seek and ye shall find. I believe in a lot of things. I incorporate a lot of different religions. What I liked about Jesus was that he said that Peter was the rock on which he built his church. I also like that he prayed in the desert, on top of moutains, etc. I prefer my woods, my garden, my meadow. Often when in churches, I get this overwhelming feeling that I would like to make whips of ropes and chase people around. Anyway, can't we just agree to disagree? Or agree differently? Even if you join a church or group, people are still after you up here. My friend jointed the Free Masons. The Weslyan Methodists are still after her to go to their church. The born again Christians in my area never stop and never leave you alone. Like my friend said, "We're not joining any group that is anti-dancing." I was going to become a Western Style Square Dance caller, but a lot of things happened and I couldn't. My friend teaches Middle Eastern Dancing. I've gone to many types of dance classes. Dancing is the most important recreation in my life. It makes life worth living for me. So how do I get these people to back off? I don't want to be rude, crude and mean, but I've tried nice and it seems to be escalading. One guy yelled across a room, "So when will we see you in church?" at a meeting of the American Legion.
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@bdugas (3577)
• United States
26 Dec 09
We have one group that comes to the door no matter what you tell them, or how many times you tell them not interested. Other than be rude, which I even think I have done before when not feeling well and they just kept ringing the door bell, they just don't seem to get the idea, that you are not interested. First thing that turns me off from a church, is the people that go there and constantly pushing their beliefs down my throat. I have not found a church that I want to attend all the time since I have been here in Ohio. Guess I have not really looked, some times things turn me off relegion or by that I mean going on Sundays and becoming a part of that group. When I go to a church it takes me only but a few minutes to know whether I want to come back again or not. We went, me and my daughter's family to a small church the other night that is just starting up. It was more or less a Christmas party, and while I enjoyed the service, and the dinner. Only one person in the whole room spoke to us when we came in other than the preacher. Which left me to believe that this was not for me, but you will see those same people in the store and they will ask haven't seen you in church anymore. Oh it is fine to stand in front of a bunch of people in a store and talk about church, while once you get into the building, you become some snob. Why was I good enough to talk to in the store, to be ask why aren't you coming to church, but you turned your back on me when I sit down at your table that night.
See I can't get into this church thing because of the way people act any more. Before the hurricane in Louisiana in 2005, I was invited to a church, and when I went, I knew right then within a few minutes that this is where I wanted to be. I guess some people believe that if they hound you enough finally you will give in and go where they want you to. I some times wonder if it is me they are trying to convince or themselves. I wonder what happen to the phrase "not interested, thank you, anyway". Shouldn't that end it once and for all. What would bring them back into your face with the same thing I just told you days ago not interested in. Seems to my that they are determined to show they will win in the end. Maybe sometimes you have to be rude to make them uunderstand that I am not interested, period.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
26 Dec 09
Years ago, I went to a church and the preacher stood right there and said that we have to bring everybody to Jesus. So some of it is brainwashing. I just think they don't know their Bibles very well. It says point blank to shake the sand from your sandels and move on.
Some churches are friendly; some are not that friendly. I agree. If they could talk to you in the store, they could have spoken to you in the church. I prefer to seek my own truth. I think that like the devil, some ministers and priests quote the Bible for their own purposes. Many people get upset when I say I don't need to go to church. "But what about to pray?" Jesus said, "Do NOT pray like the Hypocrats do. Go to your room and pray." Also, "Wherever two or more are gathered in his name,. . ." If people really read the Bible. He wasn't all that into Temple. As a little kid he went quite often, but as an adult, mountain tops, fishing boats, desert, table at a house or inn, etc.
Yeah, I think rude does it. But some people make me feel badly when I'm rude. I have one friend, we have helped each other find jobs. She insists I go to Canada with her. She worships up there. Says it's NOT a church. Usually just a tent or wherever they can get to put them up for a gathering. But I don't see a need. She says you can feel the spirit of the Lord there. I feel him other places, my woods, etc. I don't need to go to Canada, God is everywhere. Too bad I have to be rude, oh well. Take care and thanks.
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@celticeagle (189820)
• Boise, Idaho
28 Dec 09
Hey, Bdugas--My daughter once had them come to her door one time too many and she told them she was satanic and that seemed to get rid of them! She never had them come back again.

@celticeagle (189820)
• Boise, Idaho
26 Dec 09
......and so that was actually in the Bible, huh? Interesting. I think, if there is a God, that this poor guy is looking down on us and shaking his head. The hypecrates, and the fancy churches with the high steaples and fancy and ornate stuff and things inside. Half the time he would just sternly shaking his head and the half of the time he is rolling on the floor laughing his back side off. So when are they going to see ME in church? Tuesday after......yah.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
26 Dec 09
Which is actually in the Bible? Jesus getting ticked off at the hypocrats and making a whip out of ropes and chasing them around in the temple or if people don't listen, shake the sand from your sandles and move on? Both are. I was brought up Catholic, so I can't quote exactly or tell you the exact passages, but I've had them read to me by the Priests and we did read the Bible (Duay (spelling?) version in Catechism), so yeah, they're there.
I agree with you. He's probably upset half the time (let's hope it's only 1/2) and laughing the other half.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
27 Dec 09
Ha, HA, MY Dad used to say people are funny looking. Compare us to every other creature and we're goofy. Two-legged creatures are usually birds, but we have no wings, we're probably closest to penguins in the way we look, but we don't waddle or have that much fat or live like them. We're supposed to be like apes and monkeys. No monkey tail and no fur. The other creatures must think we're strange.
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@celticeagle (189820)
• Boise, Idaho
26 Dec 09
I hope so as well. And he must have a very good sense of humor.

@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
25 Dec 09
Any Buddhist that tries to convert you IS NOT a Buddhist..We dont do that..As for others though, I just politely inform them I'm not interested and if htey continue to pester, bible beat, bug etc I tell them more firmly or just point and laugh depending on the person and they're level and manner of pestering LOL...sometimes I just shake my head, ignore and walk away....
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
26 Dec 09
My Dr. is trying to make me into a vegetarian right now and he never tried to do that until he became a Buddhist. My cholesterol is fine, my sugar levels are fine, etc. My blood pressure is high, but it would be as a vegetarian, too. Salt and stress make it go up. I've been to veg. pot lucks and the salt made my blood pressure soar. I'm a little over weight, but I gained weight the last time I tried to be a vegetarian and got constipated because of all the cheese I ate. Most cheese has a lot of salt in it, only swiss and provalone are low. So no medical reason to convert me to that.
More firmly only temporarily works and pointing and laughing, I could just see that. I can hear all the Biblical quotes being yelled and showered at me now.
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
8 Jan 10
Yes, some people who change to Shamanism, I have to remind them of some of their hangovers from Christianity. But some do combine Shamanism and Christianity, so I remind them to call it both and we have a discussion about being called to a religion versus drafted. Thanks and take care.
@hvedra (1619)
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7 Jan 10
Precisely what I was going to say - any "Buddhist" who tries to convert you isn't a Buddhist.
Most of the ones who try to do that still hold to their old world-views and have a lot of hangovers from things like Christianity where you have to convert everyone around you. Others are part of "temples" that are pretty much money-making exercises (the contradiction between that and Buddhism should be so obvious it's painful!).

@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
27 Dec 09
i think it was groucho marx that said "i will not be part of any organization that'll have meas a member"
(or something to that extent)
my mother's pastor tries to convert me every time he comes over-i finally told him look-i appreciate what you do for my mom,but this is my house,and i will not be badgered every time i let you in.i will respect you as long as you respect my home.
(or something to that extent)
my mother's pastor tries to convert me every time he comes over-i finally told him look-i appreciate what you do for my mom,but this is my house,and i will not be badgered every time i let you in.i will respect you as long as you respect my home.@writersedge (22563)
• United States
27 Dec 09
Yes, I agree that people should never be harassed in their own home. I like that line from Groucho Marx. So you have one that won't stop, too. I have one that sent me a Christmas Card and an invitation to her meetings in Canada. I appreciate her helping me find work, but I'm just as happy to go in the woods as I am to go to Canada (plus I don't have to worry about Border Guards letting me back in).
@tawny_24 (341)
• United States
26 Dec 09
Zen. I wish that everyone could just walk on thier own path with out judgement of the paths of others. I especialy want to be able to erradicate all judgement within my own mind.
Being told to think one way or the other is a violation of the natural order. We are all born with instincts and sublimating them for the purpose of conforming to any societal expectation is against the human creatures true nature.
There are a lot of ideas about what or who God is, and a lot of ideas about how to please that God. I think that all of these pressures to act, or feel, or think about this or that is a detraction and a distraction from what we are all supposed to be doing. Listening.
We are all asking all of these questions, but when do we stop and listen for the answer?
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
26 Dec 09
Excellent.
I agree.
My religion says there are many paths to the same goals. We are NOT to convert. If someone is curious about our path because they're truly interested and not for the sake of condemning us, we can explain the path we are on, but we also explain that it's not the only one, just the one I happen to be on.
I've stopped and listened to answers and it is truly amazing the answers I've gotten. Some religions here are anti-meditation which is when I do my listening (actually part of when I do it, I do it other times and other ways, too). If you never listen for the answers, a one-way conversation doesn't do very much and the other party may stop talking if you aren't listening anyway.
I have no intention of sublimating dancing. Some people like Whorling Dervishes and some Shamans, maybe others too, dancing is part of their prayers, meditation, etc. To stop an entire channel of possible communication, no way. Thanks and take care.
@jb78000 (15139)
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25 Dec 09
wow they sound determined. all you can do i suppose is continue to be polite but be very firm that you are not interested. when i am approached by jehovahs witnesses etc i usually just say i am sorry but i am really not interested. sometimes i say i have another religion. they usually are fairly good about going away to pester elsewhere. the worst thing you can do is try to argue with them - i've known a couple of people who did this and the would be missionaries would then stay there all day arguing back.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
25 Dec 09
I have been polite. Unfortunately, that just makes them think I'm receptive.
Oh yes, if you argue, they will stay forever. When I lived in one town, the Jehovahs went door to door. Another town, the Mormans. I live here and BOTH go door to door.
I think right now the churches are hurting. They don't even have $ for repairs or for heat. So I don't think they're going to stop.
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
26 Dec 09
Ha, ha, that's an interesting idea, but one group usually comes in the Spring and the other in the Fall.
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
26 Dec 09
There is the problem. If they would respect that you believe in something, but everyone's going to hell if they aren't the same religion as whatever so we must rescue them from the fires of hell. I don't feel the need to be rescued. I'm happier and freer in my religion than any of them are in theirs.
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@cobradene (1171)
• India
25 Dec 09
I've been tried to convert myself one of my friends also. He was a protestant. He just lived next door and we used to hang out together once in a while. But he kept talking to me about Jesus and what he did etc.. And he tried showing off like, "I have a very good relationship with Christ, and I'll help you develop a relationship with him"....
There are these people everywhere. Have you ever been chased by the Hare Rama Hare Krishna guys? They are also just the same, talking about Krishna Consciousness, a total imitation of the missionaries. There is no other truth other than Krishna for them.
But the only one thing I would tell you is, stop going around these places, because which ever community you participate with, they will all talk only about their paths as if that's the only path and all others are aliens.
I was a part of one organisation, and I was pretty much into their teachings and lessons and I benefited a lot from it. But still, I was open enough to listen and talk about other paths and philosophies as well. The minute I would open my mouth about another Spiritual master other than our's or another philosophy, all of them would look at me as if I have committed a sin and would say, "You are not loyal to your Guru"... I was shocked and I just looked at them in awe... and I said, had I spoken the same things in front of our master, he would have rather appreciated it.
Most of these communities or faiths become ignorant and get caught up with words and books, and fail to look beyond the words the universal truth lying in them. They all get caught up with forming an organisation, and publishing and making money... and selling their stuff all the time and then now the next hype is coming on television channels, which is all the more unbearable to watch.
I would rather say, just read on your own, read different philosophies and no need to go anywhere, and just stay away from such people and find the truth by yourself. There are enough books available.... There is enough knowledge out there, and the truth is hidden in all these books. You just look for them by yourself. All you have to do is, find the common truth hidden in all teachings and religions and philosophies. There is no need for anybody to convert or get initiated or baptised or whatever.... into any religion. Just look for the universal truth. It's there right within you, and no community or guru or church or temple can give it to you. It's there inside your heart, and only you can find it.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
26 Dec 09
True, very true. The more different religions you read or study, the more universal truth you will find. The Sufis did a book about the common elements in different religions. Love, closeness to a higher power, etc.
It is very difficult to stay away from everyone where I live. I'm almost a hermit now. I would like to go to the store, volunteer at the American Legion, etc. Other people in my religion are finding this difficult, too. With churches and temples needing more $ for upkeep and people having less $ to give, they're telling their followers to convert, convert, convert.
Wisely, we know that one way is not the only way and that one path is not necessarily the only path. I've been to many churches and places seeking, but I'm not in my 20s any more. I have a path that is flexible and combines a broad world view and a Shamanic and for now, I'm happy with that path. It's just that these others do not respect it. It's frustrating.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
26 Dec 09
haha, they probably see you as devil reincarnated, and they think that they are doing a good deed by trying to "save" you.
Maybe with the current crisis, the church folks have more time on hand, and nothing better to do, so their priests ask them to go around and "convert' people. In that case, they cannot spend too much time watching TV, playing games, and yield to the temptation of the world.
I dont think Buddhists and Muslims care about what you do or think. They wont ask people to convert. The most they will do is to give you a book to read.
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
26 Dec 09
I haven't had any Muslims try to convert me. But my Dr. became a Buddhist and he wants me to become a vegetarian and he won't get off that kick despite my cholesterol being normal, my sugar being normal, only my blood pressure is high and that is stress and salt dependednt. I've been to vegetarian dinners where the salt content was unreal and I became very ill.








