The Great American Illusion  

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To be fair, there is no right to pets in the Constitution. I often like to define pets as property, but that seems to bother some pet owners, so they don't fall under the "right to life, liberty, and property" clause like mortgages do.

That being said, I don't think this means we should get rid of regulations on mortgage brokers or pets because I think regulations (in general) are in place to GUARANTEE our freedoms, not to restrict them.

Gew, so you think that we should allow the banks to do what they want, and when they destroy the economy AGAIN (AND WE ALL KNOW THEY WILL!!!!!!!!) we should just bail them out?????? I really find it hard to believe that anyone with a quarter of a brain cell could actually believe this is a logical idea. Even the most far right wingers have said that you have to have some regulations or you will have nothing quickly.

gewcew, you're kidding, right? You'd like to get rid of all food safety regulations...product safety regulations...water safety regulations...child safety regulations...auto safety regulations...traffic safety regulations...building regulations...how about the regulations that say your neighbor can't bury grandma in his back yard? I could go on but I doubt you'll see my point.

Burying grandma in the back yard is just a scary thought. But, I am sure that you would see it happen.

Center right makes no sense as a term. If America's "center" is to the right, that makes THAT the center. What's left and right, liberal and conservative, progressive and status quo change over the years. As a result, what is in the "center" of these beliefs also change, but it is always at the center.

Always remember that our founding fathers didn't trust the American people to directly elect our own president!

Destiny, please give me a list of items that you want less regulated. Or, did the people who feed you your information forget to tell you that?

Don't hold your breath waiting for a response from either one of them, debater.

I hear ya, I have asked many people on here, and no one has answered me yet. Talking points, talking points, talking points!!

We are told that we need government to tell it's citizen how to live their lives. These citizens are humans, the people who run government are humans also, because government is just a group of people. If people cannot self-regulate their own lives then how can someone else who is just a person themselves do it for them?

Louseydebater... the list would be far too long to enumerate here.

You constant demands for such a list denote an intellectual cowardliness that is all too common to communists such as yourself who think the proper role of government is to regulate and dictate the lives of the governed.

It is not.

Suffice it to say that every regulation that is not Constitutionally authorized should be immediately repealed.

That includes the 20,000 plus gun control laws (infringements, plus thew majority of the tax code, and everything that is the province of the individual states.

Now, chew on that.

Spallidino... Still waiting to see you say something... anything... that denotes a modicum of intelligence..


poingly... Considering that the extreme left represents Oligarchy... Communism and Statism... where the government rule the people in a top-down fashion... and the extreme right represents anarchy which is no government at all..., the idea of center is a point exactly in between the two extremes.

Center right indicates that the country is more conservative than liberal. The center is a fixed point, and never moves.... so policies are referred to as right of center or left of center, depending on the current policies of the day.

I am amazed that you can't understand such a simple and well understood concept, as the terminology is quite common and has been for a great many years.

The Founding Fathers abhorred democracy, and knew it could not last.

That is why America is not a democracy and never has been one... it has been a Representative Republic from the very beginning.

The reason for the electoral college is so that no State can dictate to the other States on policy... which makes our elections and our form of government the best system in existence.

It is strange that people still do not understand that.

Destiny, you can't even defend your own opinions (or that of the people that tell you want to think and say), yet you try (failing as usual) attack me. I have the ability to think for myself and I can actually do research on what I hear. YOU on the other hand don't have a clue, and you aren't even smart enough to look to find out if what you say is correct. You can call me all of the names you want, it just shows the world how ignorant YOU are, and the fact that you can't defend yourself, and need to attack those that question your opinions. If you really want to show how smart you are give me a LIST of regulations you want to end, and do some research. If you spent more time looking up FACTS instead of spewing ignorant BS that you hear on FOX then your views might be considered worth something. Today your views are nothing more than right wing propaganda.

If you can't compile a list then don't claim that you can!!!!! Try thinking for yourself sometime TOOL. You might just learn something!!

Destiny, still waiting for you to do something other then toss mud.

gewcew, I find it hard to believe that your thinking is as simplistic as you presenst it to be in this discussion. This world is not made up of good hearted folks who will do the right thing because it's the right thing to do. What protections do you believe the American people deserve?

To pretend like this is what people mean when they say "center right" is just fooling yourself. People use the term to suggest that the masses agree more with the positions of the right/conservatives/Republicans than the left/liberals/Democrats. The classic definition of the term is irrelevant here (though I appreciate that history lesson, thanks).

However, from your definition, it sounds like America is (and has historically been) a country that is still right in the center (or even leans center left), because we certainly don't lean towards anarchy. If we did, your statement wouldn't be supporting the initial poster, but rather calling him a fool to even suggest that America leans in such a far left direction.

You also seem to contradict yourself (or at least want it both ways) when you say "the center is a fixed point and never moves...so policies are referred to as right of center or left of center, depending on the current policies of the day." So which is it, is it a fixed point? Or does it depend?

Tax code is explicitly stated in the Constitution--and that one amendment that so many conservatives hate--it's hard to say it's unconstitutional.

Gun control laws are (I will grant you) a little bit trickier. I don't like guns, but I understand the Constitutional right to bear them. However, that being said, I also understand there are some Constitutional circumstances that result in rights being taken away. This sort of thing can cause countless laws. An interstate commerce clause also plays a factor (see: when rights intersect). Food for thought: do I have the right to bear a nuclear arm? Sort of silly there, but with serious implications on this argument!

poing-poing... That is not a pretense at all. Thems the facts. 0bowMao don't get it either, so you has company in your delusion.


spally-pally... I is still waiting

lying-debater... What part of "If the regulation don't meet Constitutional muster then it needs to be repealed" do you not understand?

I never promised a list... you demanded one in that petulant whining little kid Libturd voice that you commies do so well, in the hopes of trying to male some absurd gotcha points by demanding that which you know cannot be delivered. The sheer number of bad regs preclude that possibility.

No list is required. Review them all.

Most would be repealed.

Quit pretending that you have a brain or are capable of independent thought because you do not carry the facade well.

Well, you also put Bush and pretty much the entire Republican establishment in my company in another post discussion we are having. If America is really so center right, how are all these (according to you) leftist/communist/statist/etc. politicians getting elected time and time again? You seem to be a person of great contradiction over and over again.

So Destiny you admitted that you don't even know what regulations you want repealed. If you don't even know what regulations should be repealed then how do logically say they need to be repealed?? Oh I forgot, logic is NEVER part of ANY discussion you are a part of because of your complete lack of intellect. Come back when you have a CLUE of what you are talking about. Till then, let the adults talk!!

You expected logic, debater?

This discussion has been devoid of logic from the start and you know you're not going to get more than vagueness and childish name calling out of Destiny. He rarely contributes more than that so, personally, I wouldn't waste any more of my time.

poing-poing... Because the American voters are stupid... and because the incumbents have a big advantage over challengers... which the Supreme Court just diminished.

They only wake up after the fact.

In 0bowMao's case, they woke up even faster then usual, because he tried too much too fast. He is nothing like what the voters thought that they were getting... and they now reject him.

lyinglouseydebater... Do you have a working knowledge of the hundreds of thousands of regulations currently in effect? Why don't you list them yourself?

What part of "Review them all and reject those that are not Constitutionally authorized" do you not understand? Are you that simple?

If the best you can do is make condescending remarks that further prove your liberal stupidity, then perhaps you should just quit. A Libturd talking about logic? You have no logic. ROFLMFAO at your mental disorder.

spally-pally... the only ones devoid of logic in this discussion are you Libturds.

You have no logic, nor any detectable intelligence. Too bad your parents did not believe in abortion.

By the way... I am still waiting...

The president isn't elected with democracy, he is elected via republic (though that republic is democratically elected, hence the term democratic republic).