Ex-CIA Agent Who Claimed Torture Worked Admits He LIED!!

Years ago when I was being hit by my husband who was trying to force me to agree to give him joint custody when we divorced, I said whatever he wanted to hear to get him away from me. I didn't mean one word of it. I just wanted the abuse to stop. I have absolutely no doubt that torturing produces a similar result (with a few exceptions that simply don't justify the majority). It's just wrong, plain and simple. That doesn't mean we lay out the good linens and hire the best chefs to wait on these people hand and foot. It just means we have always and should always operate on a higher plane than others in the world - others who generally tend to be those we go to battle against. Our greatness has been due in large part because we didn't do things like the rest - we were better than all of that. To lower our standards is to put us on their level. Is that really where we want to be? Really???

Would you expect anything else from the republicans who followed Bush and Cheney like lost sheep?

I think that if I was being tortured I would tell a bunch of lies to get it to stop. The people are being tortured for information that the torturer does not have so how do they know the information they get is the truth? I really wonder can any government employee be believed? Everyday one sees more evidence of lying or misrepresentation of facts.

So to clarify, one liar in the CIA means that torture NEVER worked, and yet teams of liars selling global warming propaganda doesn't make you doubt the man caused global warming crap in the slightest?If the guys a liar, screw him. Frankly, I don't even remember hearing about him. There are no shortage of people involved who have stated that valuable information was gathered through enhanced interrogation techniques. Even Obama's OWN National Intelligence Director, Dennis Blair has said that we received high value information from those interrogations that saved lives.

And I've venture to say they were thankful for the water boarding over what they would do to one of the American Citizens they got a hold of. What they got in comparison was fun times at the carnival. Daniel Pearl ring a bell?

I agree with EoE - there is no justification for torture.

I personally don't find water boarding someone or blowing smoke at someone or depriving them of sleep or embarrassing them to be stooping to their level or spitting in the face of American values or any other stuff of that nature. (I thought 'stuff' was a good word to use there ) Too often people refuse to face facts and look at just what a terrorist is made of. And I'm not talking about that wide-eyed little patsy eager to meet his 72 virgins and do the cult proud. I'm speaking about the schmucks that set it all up -- the career terrorists who plot and scheme and recruit and instill the ideology in so many. Has anyone ever tried to step into their minds? We're talking about sociopathy to the tenth power when dealing with cause-driven terror like this. Apart from lacking empathy, remorse and wanting to kill every single thing that isn't part of their belief system (i.e. being antisocial in the worst possible way imaginable), terrorists aren't killing because they need to--compulsion--or even want to--enjoyment--but because they truly believe it's their goal on this planet to kill me, you and every other person who doesn't submit to their warped ideology. And let us not forget the kicker: It's considered an honor to die for the cause. To die for the cause. TO DIE FOR THE CAUSE! This individual's entire life revolves around hostility. They've shut themselves off from any semblance of a society and live within their own faction, with one goal: destruction of all who differ. A common car thief is highly likely to lie his little criminal butt off when questioned. But it's a surprise to people that a terrorist might not give accurate information at all times, regardless of the method? What should be done with them? Allow a fame-starved defense martyr to order their mouths shut while attempting to make headlines by getting them off on a technicality? Milk and cookies and a reduced sentence for cooperation? I'm all for the latter, but don't you think the softer, easier approach was tried before dunking these bozos multiple times? It's always good we-are-the-world speech fodder to give that same old "We become them when we torture" line. But not everyone makes their bed on that same fluffy cloud of aloofness. Personally, I don't lose a wink of sleep knowing that men and women are willing to try ANYTHING to get these terrorists to talk. If they succeed, no matter the method, I'm thankful. If they don't succeed, I don't feel right second guessing people who truly believed they did what they had to do in order to keep me safe. I refuse to make terrorists the victims of anything. They would gladly cut my head off and send the film to my mother if it served their purpose. In my humble opinion, you have to show humanity to receive it. Good doesn't defeat evil. It only creates a disassociated room to hide in, where it's always safe to point the finger and always acceptable to pretend not doing enough to defeat evil is somehow virtuous enough to earn safety. You gotsta break bad on fools every once and again. My IE is slow tonight and doesn't wanna load. Is it just the one guy saying this?