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myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships 2 years ago

It went well, I think.

"So, what did you and the counselor talk about?"

"We talked about the big blowup and the conversations afterward and about Dearra's nerves."

"And what did she say?"

"She said you need to get yourself into anger management, because that blow up proves that you can't control it."

"F8ck her. I get mad because you you you you you..."

Yep, you heard it here folks. The reason a certain somebody can't control his temper is because of my behavior.

Does anybody know where I can go and take "perfect wife" classes? confused

Seriously, I'm going to see if I can get him to talk to his brother about it, because he's been through it...

 

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1. myLot reputation of 95/100. gabs8513 (23375)   ranked 3,170 out of 19,197 in relationships   2 years ago

Still in denial the Counsellor had no right to say that without seeing you herself
I hope you get him to talk to his Brother


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

The only thing she said, was he needed to do it. The rest of the convo is between me and him...

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2. myLot reputation of 93/100. Irishfrndly65 (8534)   2 years ago

Oh boy....been waiting for this one......reading..............

Sigh.........I was afraid of that......

You shoulda heard the one of me trying to explain to my VERY literal, can't understand emotions, can't read body language husband...why my son talks to him the way he does. First off...he's immediately thinking I am 1) "telling him what to do" 2) attacking him......sigh............so I start off losing ground just by opening my mouth to try to help........nevermind..I digress..........I'm so tired I could just sleep forever...............


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Mine minimizes everything, downplays it...
More or less what I expected. With a few days of reasonable talk, he may come around. Or maybe just play it lip service. idk


myLot reputation of 93/100. Irishfrndly65 (8534)  2 years ago

It seems mine has totally given up and I'm having to accept that and go on. I'm not going to give up. Courage means trying it anyway! ;)


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

I'm pretty far down in the direction of giving up meself...


myLot reputation of 93/100. Irishfrndly65 (8534)  2 years ago

Well...you've probably watched my own battle with feeling defeated and knowing when to toss in the towel...I'm still struggling with it a bit. But I had to face that I can ONLY control me...my nice counselor lady helps by reminding me of that. If someone does NOT want help, does NOT want to change and says so.......then.....I've been defeated by default...and have to face it. I'm in the game, but all my players didn't show up...so...by default..I had to forfeit....I HATE it...but...I can't control it..............moving on............


myLot reputation of 73/100. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (1509)   ranked 197 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

OMG, and here I am looking for a girlfriend... Dagnabit them dorks really mess things up for us good ones... What a shadow I have over me...

I have a lot of friends who are girls, but I've yet to find that girlfriend, although I think the ice is breaking... *fingers crossed*


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Mine pays lip service to wanting to change but then comes back at me over and over again with the same stuff.

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3. myLot reputation of 99/100. GardenGerty (35331)   ranked 6 out of 19,197 in relationships   2 years ago

He will never find the perfect wife. How did it help his brother? Can he see changes in his brother? Will he feel like you are betraying him if you talk to his brother? I hope you find some way to help him out, he sounds miserable, and all of you are too, because of it. Good luck, girl.


myLot reputation of 73/100. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (1509)   ranked 197 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Don't you mean he has found his perfect wife and just doesn't have the eyes to see her? His vision is a bit out of focus, actually to be honest the guy has to be blind.


myLot reputation of 99/100. GardenGerty (35331)   ranked 6 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

You know that is probably quite correct. I think perhaps he needs to find the perfect eye doctor.


myLot reputation of 73/100. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (1509)   ranked 197 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

thumbup


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Hi brother is on divorce #2, long ugly story. Not sure how it helped him, but his brother has talked sense into him before. I hope he does talk to him. I don't want to talk to his brother directly. Reason being, he went and dropped a load of stuff on MY family and I made him promise never to do that again and I wouldn't feel right if I went and did the same thing.

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4. myLot reputation of 97/100. BarBaraPrz (6656)   ranked 2,170 out of 19,197 in relationships   2 years ago

Perfect wife classes? I think there's an ongoing course in Stepford, Conneticut...


myLot reputation of 73/100. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (1509)   ranked 197 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

cute...


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

lolthumbup

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5. myLot reputation of 93/100. Sandra1952 (3179)   ranked 3,273 out of 19,197 in relationships   2 years ago

Hello, Dawn. I can't say I'm surprised - it sounds like standard Counsellor Speak to me. 20 years ago, when my first marriage was breaking up, I finally pulled the plug when my husband's behaviour got too much to handle. I threw him out, and he hightailed back to his mother, 200 miles away. I then made the mistake of letting him come back for Christmas, instead of sending the kids up to spend it with him.

When I said it was time for him to go back,he put on a very convincing display of a nervous breakdown. I knew he was fooling, so I went to see the psychiatrist with him. She wanted to admit him, but he said he'd be better at home with me and the kids. I pointed out it wasn't his home any more, and while it may be better for him, it wouldn't be better for me.

I couldn't believe what happened next - the psychiatrist offered to admit ME to the Funny Farm so I could get a break from him! I said, 'I'm not the basket case - he is - or at least he's pretending to be one,' and stormed out.

These people may be experts, but I don't see how they can understand what individual families are going through, especially if the patient, client or whatever we're supposed to call them these days is playing things down to make themselves look blameless - you know the sort of thing, 'I'm only here because she says if I don't get help, that's it.'

Don't take this the wrong way, but do you think he might be fibbing about what the counsellor said to make you feel guilty and shift the blame? Just a thought. If you want to vent, PM me anytime.


myLot reputation of 73/100. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (1509)   ranked 197 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Sad very sad... Had you known then what you could know now, maybe your first marriage would not have ended.

Very sad for you, your children, and him.


myLot reputation of 93/100. Sandra1952 (3179)   ranked 3,273 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Yes, but you have to know when it's just not worth saving. Actually, after the divorce, a lot of stuff came out which, had I known about it earlier, would have speeded things up. There was no saving it, but my kids have gone on to have good marriages themselves.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Hi Sandra, sorry if I was unclear. Saying he needed to get into anger mgmt and why was the counselor. The rest of it was a conversation between me and him. And the last part was just a smart aleck aside by me about taking 'perfect wife' classes.


myLot reputation of 73/100. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (1509)   ranked 197 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Hi Sandra,

Thanks for explaining a little more. Did you read part1 of this discussion? I go into greater detail with my personal experiences also. Look for Blackbriar, and might I add that it isn't fun when the Doctors and the Church gang up upon the innocent, I never knew something that Blackbriar pointed out, many times I would hear things my wife would say things to our children and I would wonder where did that come from. Maybe she has a memory problem from the anger issues. She might be going into a blind rage and forget or not know what she is doing. I think men and women are capable of this problem.

Blind rage or blind emotion.

Wow! I never really got that before...

You can not survive in a relationship that interacts with blind behavior.

That is true.


myLot reputation of 93/100. Sandra1952 (3179)   ranked 3,273 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

You certainly can't. I do remember everything that happened, though. It's rarely a problem with just one partner.

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6. myLot reputation of 96/100. ANTIQUELADY (16514)   ranked 3,116 out of 19,197 in relationships   2 years ago

My son had on facebook the other day, I don't need anger management I just need for u to stop pi*ssing me off. Maybe u should tell him that.


myLot reputation of 73/100. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (1509)   ranked 197 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

That is good advice from your son of all people... LOL??? confused


myLot reputation of 96/100. ANTIQUELADY (16514)   ranked 3,116 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

he wasn't telling me that, lol altho he would if he wanted to. He's like his mom he says what he thinks. thanks for your comment.


myLot reputation of 73/100. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (1509)   ranked 197 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

I got that... ;) thumbup I understood right away. :)


myLot reputation of 96/100. ANTIQUELADY (16514)   ranked 3,116 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

It is very good advice.evil grin


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

That would be what HE would throw at me!


myLot reputation of 96/100. ANTIQUELADY (16514)   ranked 3,116 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

aIN'T LOVE GRAND.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

I wouldn't know. confused

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7. myLot reputation of 95/100. cloudwatcher (4168)   ranked 3,211 out of 19,197 in relationships   2 years ago

Eve blamed Adam. Adam blamed God. And ever since, mankind has found someone - anyone but self - to blame.

This saddens me, but being a super-optimist I am still hoping something can be worked out. Keep trying.


myLot reputation of 73/100. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (1509)   ranked 197 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Let's get that story straight, Eve blamed the fictitious serpent, Adam blamed Eve and so did the Patriarchal god... devil


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

He blames himself. Then he blames me. Then he blames himself. The he blames me.

It's like dealing with Jekyll and Hyde or being at the end of a yo yo...

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8. myLot reputation of 73/100. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (1509)   ranked 197 out of 19,197 in relationships   2 years ago

Heheheeee, Now I see... For before I was once blind, or not... :) I can be such a brat, it is back to school for him, huh? Instead of calling it anger management they should try furthering your education. It should be free to all Americans. Right?


myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (24681)  2 years ago

ya know, there must be SOME reason I'm still single...

you ever been to Snyder Texas???

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myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Furthering his education, hmmm... Maybe I'll try that line.

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9. myLot reputation of 99/100. Opal26 (14496)   ranked 3,375 out of 19,197 in relationships   2 years ago

Hi dawn~ I'm sorry that the Anger Management didn't go as well
as you hoped! It doesn't work overnight and it takes time! But,
unfortunately if the person that really needs it isn't willing
it won't work at all! The person that needs it has to first
admit that he needs it and that is the key! So, I think that
you might really have your hands full and I really feel for you!
It has to be both people on board wanting it to work and it
is sometimes a very long process! I wish you alot of luck! I
do hope that you can hang in there long enough because it does
work, if you work it, so work, your worth it!wink
(That's just a line from one of the "twelve step programs")


myLot reputation of 73/100. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (1509)   ranked 197 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Hey Opal take another trip through this thread, trust me... devil


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

The trick is getting him to actually go. He hasn't agreed to even do that...

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10. myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (24681)   2 years ago

OUT THE DOOR!

You'll show him some anger management!

CHANGE THE LOCK!


myLot reputation of 73/100. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (1509)   ranked 197 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

If everything else fails that will work! thumbup


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Oh he could figure out how to get in if I changed the locks...


myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (24681)  2 years ago

sounds like restraining order time to me


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

not yet

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