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| You can read and hear for yourself what Michele Bachmann said about what people should do if the health care reform bill gets passed in a way she says is illegitimate. Here is an excerpt: At a rally at the Minnesota State Capitol on Saturday, Bachmann declared illegitimate the potential route that House Democrats could take to pass the health care bill. She was specifically railing against a parliamentary tactic by which the House could skip voting on the Senate bill by declaring it passed as part of the reconciliation bill. Bachmann pronounced this to be taxation without representation. "They have just started a revolution -- and they did it," said Bachmann. "But mark my words, the American people aren't gonna take this lying down," Bachmann later said. "We aren't gonna play their game, we're not gonna pay their taxes. They want us to pay for this? Because we don't have to. We don't have to. We don't have to follow a bill that isn't law. That's not the American way, and that's not what we're going to do." Bachmann continued. "Because it's one-party rule now in Washington, D.C. Their Chicago tactics, their Chicago friends, twisting Democrats' arms, threatening their own team members with ethics charges and a submission. This handful of people thinks they can enforce their will on 300 million Americans? They're not gonna do that. This is dictatorial, what they are doing. We are not compelled to follow a non-law just because Obama and Pelosi tells us we have to. : http://tpmdc.talkingpoint... I thought her party hated "tax cheats". Does this mean that all Tom Daschle and others who had tax problems had to do was say they didn't think, for example, the war in Iraq was legitimate so, "I'm not paying the taxes because I don't have to!"? How do you think the IRS will react? Annie | | | | | |
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1. laglen (7665)
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2 years ago
| | ok Annie, as much as it pains me, I have to agree. even if what they are doing is wrong, it will not help your cause to break the law in response. I think Bachman went over the edge on this one. | | | | | | |
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2. iriscot (792)
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2 years ago
| | That woman is a "Blooming Id1ot" she should be the first one the IRS audits! | | | | | | |
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3. kennyrose (5047)
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2 years ago
| | Annie, A law passed by use of briber and fraud is against the law,so you think Obama,Pelois,Reid can break the law and we the American people are to lay down our freedom,liberty and rights with out a fight? It is unconstitutional to place man dates on health care,they can not force a illegal law on the American people legally. Millions of us Americans will not sit back and shut the hell up and watch our country become another dictatorship like IRAN or CHINA. If they illegally pass this health care bill many millions of us American citizens will rise up against this vile government. Annie 52% of the people in your own state is against this democrat health care bill. A a whole over 60% of the American people are against this health care bill,few Americans want to see our tax payers raped any more then they have already been. Few Americans want to see 85% of the insured most likely lose their coverage and for dam sure pay higher premiums. Most Americans do not want government hand outs we are Americans we work for what we have and we are proud of this. (Michele Bachmann statement below isright on) If they pass the bill legitimately, then yes, we have to follow the law -- until we repeal it. But if they pass it illegitimately, then the bill is illegitimate, and we don't have to lay down for this. | | | | | | |
anniepa (11666)
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2 years ago
| | It's truly amazing that passing a bill that will give health care to 30 million uninsured would make us like Iran or China! It's one thing to have legitimate concerns about the bill or some of the provisions in it but to compare them to Iran or China is ridiculous. If you're so concerned about bills being passed "illegally" where was that concern when it was used repeatedly by the Republican led House a few short years ago? You, Michele and the rest of your gang should have been refusing to pay taxes for years! I'll tell you what the people of my state want - the public option. I can also tell you that Senator Arlen Specter had been trailing his likely GOP opponent Pat Toomey in the polls for months but recently he's pulled ahead; what's Specter been talking about more than anything? Health care reform! He's one of the 41 Democratic Senators who have signed the letter supporting the public option. Back to the polls...a new poll shows that 47% of the American people want Congress to pass the health care bill now with 46% against that. It couldn't get any closer than that, could it Rose? Hardly an overwhelming majority against health care reform! You wrote, "Few Americans want to see 85% of the insured most likely lose their coverage and for dam sure pay higher premiums." For one thing, these Americans won't lose their coverage, they're much more likely to lose it if things stay as they are! Also, haven't you heard about the premium increases that are going on NOW, without a health care bill? Do you think that's going to stop happening if this bill is scrapped and put aside for a few more decades? Premiums have been going up by double digits every year for the past decade and each increase is bigger than the last one. Are you honestly happy with the status quo? Annie | | | |
Taskr36 (6781)
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2 years ago
| | I don't know what polls you're reading Annie, but Toomey has been extending his lead every month. The latest Rasmussen poll puts him ahead by 9 points when he was only ahead by 4 points a month ago. Remember, they poll likely voters so their polls are far more accurate than others when it comes to elections. Ok, I've looked and I can't find a single poll that puts Specter in the lead besides DailyKOS (surprise surprise). Where'd you hear this Annie? Are you talking about Specter versus Sestak? http://www.rasmussenrepor... http://www.philly.com/phi... http://realclearpolitics.... | | | |
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4. Taskr36 (6781)
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2 years ago
| | Annie, I'll be the first to admit Bachmann is a nut, and she is. But she really does have a point here. I know you'll support your party regardless of how they violate the constitution, but this is a disgusting and unconstitutional way of getting a bill into effect and it is quite literally pissing on the graves of the founders of this country. I know you think the tea party people are so horrible because MSNBC told you so, but this is the kind of crap that caused the Boston Tea Party and it is just going to feed the tea parties right now. FYI, cheating your taxes secretly and openly protesting an unconstitutional tax are two entirely different things. I at least have a measure of respect for people who openly protest a tax for ethical reasons. I'm not saying it's the best thing to do, but what are you supposed to do when the government is literally running amok and all three branches are violating the constitution in every way imaginable? "Does this mean that all Tom Daschle and others who had tax problems had to do was say they didn't think, for example, the war in Iraq was legitimate so, "I'm not paying the taxes because I don't have to!"? How do you think the IRS will react?" Annie, Daschle SPONSORED the bill to use force in Iraq. Now I wouldn't put it past the moron to do as you said, but everyone who knew anything about him would know he was full of $hit. Aside from that the war in Iraq was declared following all procedural rules and it was not illegal no matter how many times the anti-war crowd says so. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi...: | | | | | | |
anniepa (11666)
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2 years ago
| | This has nothing to do with me supporting "my" party. It has to do with a member of Congress advising her constituents to break the law. For the record, I was just using Daschle and the Iraq War as an example and I guess I could have picked a better one but I know you knew what I meant. I don't think all the "tea party people" are horrible and my opinion of them hasn't been formed by "what MSNBC told me". Annie | | | |
Taskr36 (6781)
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2 years ago
| | Annie, there is very limited recourse for honest citizens when the government is blatantly violating the constitution that it is supposed to follow. You've already seen people use their freedom of speech to do that at town halls, tea parties, and anti-war protests. You've seen people try to vote out those they thought were the problem. Refusing to pay taxes may be illegal, but so is the procedure they're using and I have to believe you aren't so far up the DNC's a$$ that you don't realize that. Refusing to pay their taxes is really the last tool people have in the realm of civil disobedience. After that... well beyond that violence could be the final tool. I'm sure you know how people dealt with tax collectors in the colonial days when they came to collect unjust taxes. It's not pretty Annie and it could get scary if the government continues on this path. | | | |
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5. OceanTiara (6977)
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2 years ago
| | That's very admirable isn't it Annie? That lady thinks she is a revolutionist..that is sweet, at least I think so. But here's the deal.. This is America..martial law will step in and make people do what they don't want to do. Just my take on it. | | | | | | |
Taskr36 (6781)
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2 years ago
| | You could be right, and that's when there will be a real revolution when our government starts using the military against its own people. We're on a scary path and if the government doesn't stop it could get really ugly. | | | |
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6. xfahctor (7620)
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2 years ago
| | "She was specifically railing against a parliamentary tactic by which the House could skip voting on the Senate bill by declaring it passed as part of the reconciliation bill" Wait....wait..wait. Are you telling me you don't have a problem with that???? Sorry, I simply could not overlook that statement. You cannot possibly be able to look at me with a straight face and tell me you would approve of such a measure. While I agree not paying one's taxes is pretty bad advice to follow in general, if a bill passes by such an alice in wonderland method such as Slaughter suggests ...it isn't law. There is simply no way around that, nor should there be. | | | | | | |
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7. lilwonders456 (3526)
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2 years ago
| | She is not the only one calling for it. Other elected officials have said that we should with hold our taxes...until the government acts responsibly with it. NO more BS ear marks, cuts the waste...etc... But in teh same breath they also say if you do it be prepared for the IRS to come after you. It is called civil disobientance. Once congressman even said for people to not pay their taxes until members of cabinet and congress paid theirs. that was when the scandel broke out about so many of them owing back taxes. He said to send the IRS a letter saying when "such and a such" pays their taxes... I will pay mine. A small percentage doing it would not do anything. But if we all stoppped paying...well teh IRS can't come after all of us. It would get the governments attention. But I don't see it happening. Most of us have our taxes taken out of our paychecks automatically. | | | | | | |
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