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myLot reputation of 87/100. unique16 (1385)   ranked 335 out of 3,987 in politics 2 years ago

Hello,
With new health care bill signed what about the Amish or Mennonite people? Do they have buy health insurance now? What about the people who do not believe in getting there children manatory shots or if the child is sick beleive God intervention will save the child? Will these people have to buy insurance now when it goes against there faith? There are hole slueth of problems here?
Thanks and have a Great day
Sincerley Unique16

 

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1. myLot reputation of 86/100. laglen (7665)   ranked 91 out of 3,987 in politics   2 years ago

funny you should ask, I just read this -
Amish, Muslims Exempt from Obamacare Mandate?

The Senate health care bill just signed contains some exemptions to the "pay-or-play" mandate requiring purchase of Obamacare-approved health insurance or payment of a penalty fine. As Fox News has pointed out, for instance, the Amish are excused from the mandate:

So while most Americans would be required to sign up with insurance companies or government insurance plans, the church would serve as something of an informal insurance plan for the Amish.

Law experts say that kind of exemption withstands scrutiny.

"Here the statute is going to say that people who are conscientiously opposed to paying for health insurance don't have to do it where the conscientious objection arises from religion," said Mark Tushnet a Harvard law professor. "And that's perfectly constitutional."
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myLot reputation of 87/100. unique16 (1385)   ranked 335 out of 3,987 in politics  2 years ago

Hello Laglen,
There is a loop pole in this Health Insurance for people who may not want to buy into the plan etc.. they have to prove it goes against there religion. Then they are exempt... interesting... I wonder how people will do this to get out buying health insurance... think of all the people who do not have car insurance out there.
Thanks and have a Great day
Sincerley Unique16


myLot reputation of 86/100. laglen (7665)   ranked 91 out of 3,987 in politics  2 years ago

car insurance is only a mandate if you have a car and that is by state. New Hampshire. to my understanding, does not require it. Regrading the religious angle, I was thing of converting.... happy


myLot reputation of 82/100. spalladino (11857)   ranked 127 out of 3,987 in politics  2 years ago

unique16, you will have to be a member of a church or religious community that has a history of medical related practices and beliefs. Someone can't just claim to be Amish, for instance, or that their religion doesn't allow them to see a regular doctor. If you claim the religious exemption I would think that it would have to be verified.


myLot reputation of 60/100. Taskr36 (6785)   ranked 284 out of 3,987 in politics  2 years ago

In other words, some religions will get preferential treatment whereas others will be forced to purchase insurance. It's a violation of the 14th amendment, but I'm sure those who voted for this really don't care about the constitution.


myLot reputation of 82/100. spalladino (11857)   ranked 127 out of 3,987 in politics  2 years ago

I would imagine it has more to do with freedom of religion. The government cannot legislate something that violates the tenents of a church.

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2. myLot reputation of 83/100. lilwonders456 (3526)   ranked 34 out of 3,987 in politics   2 years ago

laglen beat me to it. But is right. The bill says that people that don't believe in buying healthcare due to religious reasons don't have to. So their freedom to practice their religion is still protected.


myLot reputation of 87/100. unique16 (1385)   ranked 335 out of 3,987 in politics  2 years ago

Hello lilwonders456

There is loop pole for people who do not want to buy this health insurance they just have to prove it goes against there regilious beliefs... interesting
Thanks for the reply
Sincerely Unique16

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3. myLot reputation of 82/100. spalladino (11857)   ranked 127 out of 3,987 in politics   2 years ago

Members of our native American tribes are also exempt. The Seminoles here in Florida provide for all of the medical needs of their people so there is no need for them to participate in this. They also have the right to keep their healthcare system for members of the tribe only.

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4. myLot reputation of 62/100. gewcew23 (5064)   ranked 414 out of 3,987 in politics   2 years ago

I think it is time to start my own religion, the government go take a hike religion. It could also be called government can go take a high drive off of a low bridge.


myLot reputation of 83/100. lilwonders456 (3526)   ranked 34 out of 3,987 in politics  2 years ago

oh...oh...oh.(jumping up and down waves frantically)
Can I join?...please please please.
I would LOVE to tell our government to take a long walk off a short pier.


myLot reputation of 62/100. gewcew23 (5064)   ranked 414 out of 3,987 in politics  2 years ago

Yes you can

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5. myLot reputation of 67/100. anniepa (11669)   ranked 329 out of 3,987 in politics   2 years ago

As I understand it some of these churches provide health care for their congregation, such as it is. I'm not sure if they don't believe in doctors or hospitals at all but I have heard of some that don't believe in vaccinations and some that don't believe in blood transfusions. I guess the argument would be that they're not going to be a drain on the health care system if they don't buy insurance so it really doesn't matter.

Annie

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6. myLot reputation of 97/100. AmbiePam (20784)   2 years ago

I don't believe anyone can make anyone buy anything.


myLot reputation of 97/100. AmbiePam (20784)  2 years ago

Even if they could make someone buy it, they sure can't make them use it!

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