What other countries think about your state  

That's about what I'd say too. I'd place the igloos on Greenland just to make it easier. Maybe I'd have big trees instead of seals too, move them of to Greenland as well. Trees stand still and don't move around and complicate things.

Now, if you combine what you've filled North America with, it's inhabited by drunken, armed, seal-hunting bears living in igloos stacked with tequila bottles. Hmmm. Swap the tequila for ever-clear and paint the bears white and you get approximatly what people think live in Northern Norway. So, if you have a bucket of white pain, North America = Northern Norway. How's that for a conspiracy theory?
;-)

utterly terrifying. however you've missed out a few things we know are in norway. we are not that ignorant. northern norway has trolls, vikings, walruses and fish.

I'm not sure who made the map but I agree with removing all the State lines, too. America is America, isn't it? Well, they all say 'Yeah' for 'Yes', chew gum, and shop at malls and Walmart, don't they? The staple diet is Big Macs and something mysterious called a six-pack.

I'd agree about the trolls in Norway. Isn't that the place where they bury their fish and dig it up later, proudly calling it Grave Fish (gravlax)? Either that or they hang it out to dry. We had Vikings in England, too, but, if you have been to York, you learn that they lived underground and their huts smelt of poo, which is probably why they died out. They also spoke a funny language that nobody could understand but they have tape recordings of it in the Jorvik Exhibition.

i am not sure. maybe they bury it then hang it out to dry? as for americaland you are quite correct. also they are always shooting each other and live in caravans that never move.

Yes, JB! I love 'caravans that never move'! (We have them here, too, of course. They used to be called 'Mobile Home Parks' but since the edifices were only technically mobile, the word 'Mobile' was discreetly dropped. Now they tend to have euphoric names that indicate that they are either havens of peace and desirable places to live or idyllic holiday homes, comfortable and close to the beach, the local chippy and safe for kids.

Caravans (not sure what they are called over the pond but 'RV' comes close) were made to move from place to place. Nowadays you mostly see them being transported on lorries in two halves (each half covered in flapping plastic sheet) on low loaders ... or you get stuck behind a convoy of the real thing (towed by underpowered cars or 4WDs) on the way to the West Country or the Lakes.

I thought it was pretty close to the mark for what most of the states like to be known for, not all.

we might know some of their names. doesn't mean we either know where they are except very roughly (texas = south, alaska = north) or have special stereotypes for each one. they are all full of americans aren't they? some are full of americans carrying 20 shotguns each and some have american bears and wolves

Gravlax = Sweden. Also surströming = Sweden. Rotten shark = Iceland. Pickled goat balls = Iceland. Sheep brain pudding = Iceland. Sheep head = Norway. Lutefisk = Norway. Lutefisk is dried and then put in lye and looks like jelly and smells foul and some people eat it with jam and cheese and flatbread.

Americans eat lutefisk too. Lot of people around the big lakes eat the horrible stuff. Of all things to miss about home and bring with you, I wouldn't have chosen the receipt for lutefisk.

We had to learn all the states in the US alphabetically in school. No idea why as we didn't learn where they were or anything else about them. Only Alaska, because we had to read about Bering.

Wouldn't the Americans carrying 20 shotguns want to be in the states that have bears and wolves? Or have all the bears and wolves escaped to Canada so that the people with shotguns in the US have to shoot at eachother?

PS: The Vikings came mainly from southern and middle Norway. And the walruses live at Svalbard. According to one of my fathers collegues they stink more than any other animal he had ever met. They stay on the beach in the sun all day in big groups, scratch their bellies and fart. A bit like British and Germans tourists in Greece and Spain I suppose :-)

People are armed all over America but yes a higher concentration in the areas that are good for hunting or wildlife poses a threat.

hmmm. now i have to work out my ridiculous stereotypes a little. torunn - norway, sweden and iceland are clearly all the same place. which i shall refer to as vikingland from now on. laglen. that is not true. the americans carrying 200 shotguns each live in the states without bears. they shoot at each other as a fun hobby.

wow JB, I had no idea. Here I have been a gun owner for twenty + years and have never shot at another human being. What a slacker I am! Thank you for letting me know. Now I know what I am going to do today!

~Why do they call it tourist season when you cant shoot em?~

that's the protected season for tourists. you have to give them a break for part of the year. during the protected season you can however shoot non-tourists such as irritating neighbours. *




*please note that this may not be an accurate description of laws in the states.

YAY! by the way I love the disclaimers you have been adding! I dont blame you a bit. It would be funny if somebody went off on you about shooting tourists! LMAO

You should try tourist laglen, they're usually not very fast and they don't know where to hide, so you get more than one try if you miss. And they usually come in groups and stop in front of things to take pictures. Go for them when they look in the camera, they won't notice you at all because they'll be busy directing their friends stupid poses in front of some tourist attraction ;-)

And as they've managed to go through the security check to get into the US there's no way they'll be carrying guns so they won't shoot back!

jb, it's all very easy really. Iceland has a big volcano and banks gone bad. Norway has the most beautiful coastline in the world, the most wonderful stave churches, the best health care, the biggest petroleums fond, the best looking moose and some high quality Jew's harps. Sweden has IKEA and Jonas what's-his-name who just got ditched by Princess Madeleine.

good looking moose do not, in fact, make norway the Best Country In The World torunn. the americans tried that argument earlier but i pointed out that it was silly. and asked why exactly they were rating moose on their attractiveness anyway.

lmao Torunn - thank you for the tip. I will give them a go. I am close to Rocky Mountain Nat park, Spring time the Elk are thick.... I can say I was hunting Elk!

Lots of tourists look like elk, so that's a quite good excuse :-)

jb, the moose are just a part of the bigger picture. It's actually a very important part of the National Picture "Moose in sunset", preferrably "Crying gypsy moose in sunset in front of fjord and little red house with Norwegian flag". That's the painting all proper Norwegian should try to get during their lifetime.

that is a beautiful moose-based image. and if there are no moose wandering around you could grab a tourist and position them appropriately.

It actually be easier if you shoot the tourist first and then prop them because they won't move. That however might mean importing an American or two, as we prefer shooting at bigger mammals than tourists (although some tourists are very big). Or maybe take some of the ones in "All for Norway". They've taken 12 Americans with Norwegians ancestors and test them to see if they're proper Norwegian. The one who wins get to meet all their relatives and have a big party.

laglen will help. she shoots dozens of big, sturdy tourists every day. not sure what she does with them afterwards though. now i am curious - what exactly is this test that proves you are norwegian?

There's something new every week, they've joined the celebration after high school (a bit like the first two weeks at the university in Britain I think), collected sheep, sung the national anthem to an audience etc. I think they also have to eat sheep head and other weird things.

collected sheep? why? are they trying to prove they have norwegian ancestry too? i think this might prove their grandparents are from aberdeen but i am not sure if it would prove they are part viking.

sorry, wrong box. was still thinking about your bulgarians. erm, just read the last sentence.

hey JB, would you hold the tourist for me? On your head?

well really laglen. i estimate that you have now killed 32,467 tourists and you still can't manage to shoot them without help. i am now taking the trainer wheels off your shotgun. you are on your own, and not before time.

lol I will be ok, just thought you would like to help....

no, you thought with your appalling aim you might have a chance of shooting a rabbit and a ready excuse. anyway unlike you lot my idea of a fun hobby is not shooting tourists. or helping gun crazed americans to shoot tourists.

That is why I have an automatic rifle, If I miss the first time, I should get you in the other 15 shots!

That's clever, 'cause then you don't have to worry about any witnesses. You probably take out everything and everyone that's around you in one go.

You like Tom Lehrer's Hunting song then I suppose? :-)

People ask me how I do it,
And I say, "There's nothin' to it,
You just stand there lookin' cute,
And when something moves, you shoot!"

It's such a cute refrain.

haha my new theme song!

definitely: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iATzgXyhYRs

That was great! I winder if I can make it a ring tone?

thanks for the br - appreciated

your welcome, sometimes I can be nice..... sometimes

see above. both you and laglen are assuming we know far more than we actually do. i bet you 50 cents that your average furriner is as likely to find new mexico on the map as your average american is likely to find bulgaria

You may be correct for the average foreigner... But the foreigners I've met on the trails of New Mexico seem to know a great deal about the areas they plan to visit, hike, ski, etc. I'm usually pleasantly surprised...

JB, I'm a You're-a-peein' (well, so our government tells us) and *I* can't find Bulgaria! The Bulgarians seem to be able to find the UK easily enough, though! So do the Bosnians, Serbs, Estonians and others. I'm not a member of the National Party, by the way ... just sayin'.

I think I could point a large finger at a rather small map and locate New Mexico (it has to be close to Mexico, after all, and I know where California is. Don't ask me to name or point at most of the other States, though.

I do know that some English people from Porridge Oat County landed in America and started it all by speaking English and spreading Freedom of Speech (in English). Then there was a big war between the Cowboys (goodies who were often baddies) and the Indians (baddies who were sometimes not really so bad after all) which lasted many battles till both were virtually wiped out. Now that Sitting Bull is dead, his great grandson, Talking Bull, is the sole purveyor of American History.

Later on, there were people called Ewings, who played at cowboys but weren't really, and then everyone became Friends (but only in Manhattan, apparently), which is also what the early Quaker settlers called themselves.

most of the eastern europeans have left now. one reason (not the main one) was the weather being so rubbish - i have no idea how someone from poland could say that with a straight face (i've lived in poland - nice summers, horrid winters] but they did. so are you standing for ukip come the election then? do you have the tan yet? ooh, i could find alaska. it's part of canada isn't it? or russia. i might have a 50/50 chance of getting new mexico too.

JB, if you ever get a chance to visit New Mexico (it's between Arizona and Texas, with Mexico to the south and Colorado to the north), send me a PM. I've been everywhere in the Western U.S. (Eastern U. S. too, but just not as much), so I might be able to help you make the most out of your visit. (I'd plan to visit Arizona too...). P.S., I know where Bulgaria is .

hey, that's helpful. thanks. . erm now did you know where bulgaria was before or after this discussion started?

[goes off to write a test]

Hofferp, I can only ask *why* do you know where Bulgaria is? Actually, I only know roughly where it is because I had an American friend who was born in Bulgaria (and despised the country and all it stood for, which aroused my curiosity).

@JB7800: Nope, not standing for anything (and it would NOT be the UKIP). I shall probably vote Liberal Democrat (Americans, beware! Our names have little to do with yours!) or Green (depending on which candidate looks the most likely to really care about their constituents). Cambridge City looks like it might stay LibDem though we are a yellow island in a sea of blue (which is Conservative ... sort of more like the Republican in American terms).

What I really dread, come May 6th, is a hung parliament. If there were no clear winner, we shall all be losers.

why do you think a hung parliament would be the worst thing that could happen? on the subject of ukips (and bnps) i don't think there are any wandering around loose up here leafleting. which is a pity because i am due to clean the rat cage and need something nice and absorbant for their bathroom area. shredded a libdem leaflet for rats to widdle on is just not so satisfying.

JB, I knew where Bulgaria was before the conversation...or I thought I did... Owlwings, why? A friend of mine was from Bulgaria...now a U.S. citizen. I've never inquired as to why she left Bulgaria, but because she's in her 80s and the time I think she came to the U.S., I assumed it was because of WWII. All I know is she's a neat lady. But I don't have much desire to go to Bulgaria...not, at least, until I visit the U.K.

bulgaria is still a mess even today. i can't imagine what it was like when your friend left. now it is noticeably poor, full of crime (including organised) and not a great place to live at all. it might be getting better but it is going to take some time sadly.

My neighbors have traveled to Bulgaria, Romania, Turkey...they loved them. But what they talk about are the people, the countrysides, the food, the drink...not so much the cities... If I had the money, I'd think about going. But, I'm retired now, and don't have the money I had when I was working. When I was working, I didn't have the time... Maybe I'll win a lottery . Until then, my travels are limited to the U.S. I have two trips planned this summer; one up north and west and one out east and north. Have a great day!

Bulgaria is, indeed, a mess, from what I hear. I can quite understand why my friend would not have wanted to acknowledge her heritage (her experience of it in the 60's was happy enough but then her parents emigrated - with her - via Italy and I am sure that her 9 year old mind was clouded by that experience without understanding the reasons). Once in the States (and now as a citizen) she was educated as an American and has very much become one. Your friend (at 80), however, may have quite a different view.

Bulgaria is a very beautiful country with mountains, skiing, beaches and also lovely farmland. Property is very cheap and, I think, could be a good investment. It is set to be one of the tourist venues in Europe ... provided it can sort its corruption and economy out.

I too can locate Bulgaria and hey atleast some of their crime is organized! Regarding you ferriners locating states, how about Colorado? Going down to south park gonna have myself time... oh yeah and those little hills!

south?

West

Do we get a prize for locating Bulgaria? Or do us Europeans have to find some USstate?

you get a prize. it is after all a foreign country to you too. the only people who don't win the marvellous 'finding bulgaria' prize are bulgarians. they can find norway instead.

Or they can pay some evil person lots of money, drive through all of Europe in a bad buss and if they don't dive into a fjord because some the driver didn't bring chains they can spend the winter under a bridge somewhere in Norway and play in the streets during the day.

At least someone should tell them to bring proper clothes. Never been to Bulgaria but judging by what they wear it's not so cold as Norway.

He he, no prejudices here. Not at all :-)

BTW, how foreign does the country need to be? Would it be enough for you to find England?

bulgaria is bloody cold in winter so heaven knows why your bulgarians were not wearing nice warm clothing when they visited the arctic circle where you live. i think i might be able to find england. at least i have a 50/50 chance of getting england and not wales.

Maybe they thought people would feel more sorry for them and give them more money, but what's the point with money if you freeze to death? Literally. Some of them apparantly developed double-sided pneumonia etc.

I'm trying to come up with one stereotype for Wales and one for England, but the I'm not sure if they ones for England are really for England or rather for the UK. Hmmm. The Welsh sing. The Scots all wear kilts and drink whiskey. The English drink tea, but so do everyone else too. Confusing. I suppose everyone also longs for the time when they could hunt foxes? Maybe only the English longs for the time when they ruled the world. Then there's tweed and Wellingtons, but I'm pretty sure I've seen lots of both in Scotland, Wales and England as it's wet everywhere.

the welsh live on a diet of leeks. boiled. for a minimum of 6 days. the english on a diet of cakes and pies, all their clothing has a nice union jack theme. the scots exist on a more varied and nutritious diet of deep fried haggis, deep fried turnips, deep fried porridge and white cider. are also all orange. with orange hair too.

You're orange? You look blue to me :-) Must be all the irn bru, too much of that would turn you orange.

As for a diet of boiled leeks, do they fart a lot in Whales? ;-)

i should be orange given my diet of carrots but i am not. lots of people are though - there are millions of tanning salons on every street here. whales? ahah, now i can tell which version of english you learnt. english english.

If we didn't have the states/state lines, we couldn't very well call it the United States of America, could we? If we didn't have states, the USA would have never been formed. States and states' rights were fundamental to the founding of the country. The Federal Government is "suppose" to have specific functions it performs -- protection. But the Federal Government has continued to grow since F D Roosevelt. And many people are opposed to the increasing growth of the Feds. Under this President, the growth has continued, and sped up. I'm one of those who wants a limited Federal Government and for the States to provide for their people. If you don't like what a State is doing, you can move. If you don't like what the Feds are doing, do you find another country? I haven't threatened leaving like some. I can't think of a place I'd rather live. So my option is to vote in November for the candidates who think like I do -- States rights; small Federal Government.

Your election is coming up in May, right? What day? Do you know how you're going to vote yet? I wish you the best in your elections.

I do (I think and hope) understand America's political system rather better than I have suggested in some of these responses! Where I become confused is on issues like devolution (more local power: less central power) and whether we can equate your Republicans with our Conservatives and your Democrats with our Labour parties. Actually, I think not. American politics, in general, seem to be far to the 'right' of British politics in many respects which means that 'middle of the road' Americans would seem out-and-out Conservatives to us!

I would love to see how Americans would score on some of the quizzes that I've seen. Unfortunately all seem to be thinly disguised opinion polls and require you to enter your post code (so that they can gather statistics for the election and, perhaps, make a killing by betting on the result!)

One is here: http://www.telegraph.co.u... (If you are American or not from Britain, I would suggest that you enter the post code as 'SW1A 0WQ', which is the City of Westminster - where the Houses of Parliament are - this should, at least, get you into the main quiz/poll and allow you to answer the questions.

Yes, Election Day is the 6th May for us. It's a particularly critical election, I think, because, as we are coming out of this recession, we need direction. Clear leadership (in whatever direction) doesn't come out of a parliament with no clear majority - you are seeing this in the US right now. I think that it's possibly as critical for the USA (and the rest of the world) as your Presidential Election was for us (and the rest of the world).

Owlwings, I figured when I saw this map that it had more info than a usual tourist would have. I can certainly understand why most people would not pay much attention to our states sovereignty. I have to agree with Hofferp. State Government is very important to our method of governing.

Owlwings, I took the survey and I turned up an Independent, just like I am here. But the National Party came up a close second, with the conservatives running third. Thanks for the survey.

I think the UK is to the "left" of the US in general, or as you put it we "seem to be far to the right of British politics". That's an accurate statement. Our country still sits center right, even though we're being drug to the left by this Administration and Congress. My own feeling is it will start swinging back as soon as...November.

Even though the parties are Republican and Democrat, a better way to look at it may be Progressives (big government) and Conservatives (small government). Republicans aren't always "conservative" and that's why so many people have turned off the Republican party. The Tea Party Movement in the US is a conservative movement that the Republicans are trying to latch on to. But unless they drop their "progressive" elements, the Tea Partiers may not vote Republican.

I hope I didn't confuse you more. But have a good day in the UK!

Thank you for taking the survey, Hofferp. (If many people take my advice to enter the post-code for the City of Westminster, it will totally confuse whatever statistics they are gathering!)

I don't honestly know what 'Independent' means for you (here it means very little in terms of what side of the fence you are on ... Independents tend to do well in constituencies where there is either no other option or where the other candidates don't match the views of the populace. An 'Independent' could either be Left or Right or more possibly somewhere in the middle, agreeing with some policies from either side and also being opposed to other policies.

I was aware, I think, that Republicans are by no means always 'conservative' (and nor are they always 'radical'). I know very little about the Tea Party Movement but I gathered that it was, as we might say, 'Right Wing'.

While many people in the States seem to think of Obama as being 'socialist' (something we would associate with the left wing - almost Communist), by our standards, he would probably fit best under our Conservative banner (with some Liberal Democrat leanings) and I think he would certainly not be happy in either our LibDem or Labour parties. As far as representing America to the rest of the world, however, he seems something of a breath of fresh air (apart from his social gaffes in the way of presents to other heads of state!). There is, we perceive, that of Kennedy about him and I believe that that is no accident - the Kennedy family and its minions are still very powerful. I have heard, too, that some Americans see him as just a puppet of that power.

Well, whatever! We shall vote on May 6th and what we shall end up with is still anyone's guess (though the odds are on a coalition of some sort ... which won't solve anything, as far as I can see).

Independent for me is riding down the middle, liking some policies of both parties, agreeing with neither party on most issues. I see Obama as too progressive (big government/big taxes) for my liking; government has shown it runs most of its programs poorly. So why let them run anything more?

If others see Obama like the Kennedy's, then I think he's really baffled the world. Obama is nothing like JFK. He may strive to be, but that's it...

In a way a coalition government in the U. S. might be best...they wouldn't get anything passed, which would mean they could do no more harm. (Shows how much I trust our Legislators, doesn't it?)

Well, we can hope with both our elections that we come out with something better than what we have right now.

your welcome, I enjoyed it and I am glad you did too.

Glad you enjoyed it, havent checked yet what way I would vote over the drink!

You are right, NYHollyJean, both the US and the UK have very similar issues and we tend to deal with them in quite similar ways, regardless of the party in power. The differences are mainly ones of emphasis.

'Independent', I find, depends a great deal on the candidate in one's particular area. I chose to score for the four main parties and my evaluation came out as: LibDem, 60%; Green Party, 46%; Conservative, 30%; Labour, 27%. Since I am planning to vote LibDem (because, in my view, our candidate is the one who shows the best ability to represent his constituency and, incidentally, to most closely match my own views), I feel that I shall have made the right choice. Our city is currently a Liberal seat but the countryside for miles around is Conservative (farmers and people in rural areas always tend to vote Conservative).

not in scotland they don't. well only the very well off ones - and there are not enough of them to get many tories in up here. i think edinburgh has a tory mp - very lonely man.

Aye, JB, Scotland was always a rare one. They are right to have their own parliament.

i think you're lucky we divide your country at all. some of us don't - the whole thing is just 'americaland'. and includes canada and mexico.

That's a very ignorant thing to say. Mexico is a 3rd world country, the US is the most powerful nation on earth whether you like it or not, and Canada gets free health care and a rather nice hunting season. Just because the land mass is connected doesn't mean it's the same politically. I'll bet you didn't know that each state has it's own laws which are completely different from one another. A lot of UK people are shocked when they find that out. Much the same way I was when I found out the same identical laws affect your whole country no matter what province you live in. If you live in America and don't like the state politics, you can move to a different state that has more freedoms or options. I think you're just jealous. If you hate America so much, how come loads and loads of people from Britain come to Orlando to shop because we have better prices on clothes and those themes parks that for some odd reason attract the masses? I'd rather live in a place where I can buy a weapon to protect myself. In your nation, only the thugs have guns. Your policemen don't even carry guns. How safe can you be with out a flashlight and a billy club? I don't own a gun, but I like the fact that if I wanted one, I would be able to own one.

ahem. have a look at the rest of this discussion coffeegurl and you might realise that i was not being entirely serious. yes i know that the states have different laws. and you are completely wrong about us having identical laws that affect the whole country - the legal system in scotland is not the same as england, wales is different too. i recommend doing your homework before telling other people that they are ignorant.

I think jb, that coffeegurl hadnt read your other postings here and so therefore didnt see your humor. Ya know, you should be careful, I DO own guns!

laglen you own thousands of guns but, and this is a very big but, not one of them has a range long enough to reach a blue rabbit on the other side of the atlantic. go and shoot some tourists - you have 5 days before the protected season starts.

but what about my catapult? Cannons? missiles?

a) you do not own any cannons or missils. i also doubt you have a catapault.

b) these would still not reach me

c) even if they could there is no way they'd be accurate enough. you'd probably end up killing a seagull somewhere up north.

d) killing innocent seagulls is not nice behaviour

But seagulls do not always display nice behavior. And you got me, I only have the catapult! But have access to two WWII cannons! I would never REALLY aim for ya

. but why exactly do you have access to cannons? ps - seagulls are scary. there are a few cities here where they have overtaken the pigeons and they can give you extremely evil looks. i bet they peck too.

wasn't talking about wales or scotland-i meant England. I was told by an English person that all of ENgland has the same laws across the provinces.

you want to see how bad? throw one little piece of bread and see what happens..... be careful! Cannons - I work at a VFW - it is a club for veterans of foreign wars. We have two WWII cannons that have one little piece of weld that makes them inoperable. It would take about five minutes to get them "road ready!"

coffeegurl - well you did say the uk, not england. anyway there are local byelaws in different counties too. was this the same english person who was shocked to learn that different states have different laws?

laglen. hmmm. well i would not put a gun crazed american in charge of cannons for fairly obvious reasons. the fact that you have already figured out how to use them says it all really.

yeah-it was the same person. I talked to them in second life game.

think that explains it. well not everybody from the uk knows as little as they appear to. i think most of us know that laws vary from state to state for example. and my first comment really was a joke - we only lump all the north american countries together to be annoying

Lock -n-Load Laglan! Rear Back-Blast Area ALL CLEAR!!!

please take all your weapons outside before blasting away with them. you are making a mess.

I always clean up my mess.....

laglen, you and coffee girl so far have shot holes in the walls, broken a window, got plaster everywhere and people are going to slip on those bullets. for goodness sake take your guns, cannons and ground-to-air-missiles outside and shoot some tourists.

Did someone say ground-to-air missiles? Roll on July 4th and Guy Fawkes Day!

jb, it is rabbit season! They are going to start eating my garden..... we have blow darts for them!

why blow darts? you are better off just shooting them, then you can eat them. i know this sounds strange coming from a rabbit but i think free range meat is better than that bacon you have been guzzling all day.

blow darts because we are in a neighborhood and do not want to terrorize kids while shooting thumper. If we were in a less populated area we would.

I am sorry it upset you. I thought a lot of the states were pretty close in stereo type.

okay we just agree to disagree. I love my country and would not
live anywhere else so make fun all you want, seems to be a whole
lot of you like to make fun of the Us so have fun, I just do not
see it that way. I think my country is pretty damned good myself.
And for your information MtRushmore is in South Dakota and there
are a lot of wondeful people who do not deserve being made fun
of in that state.

Ok number 1, I am an American and I LOVE my country the way it is. But some liberal nut jobs want to make us Europe. If I wanted European ways, I would move there. Second of all, this was for fun, I am very sorry you cant see it. Third, I think most of us knows where Mt Rushmore is. They just listed both Dakotas together.

Laugh at yourself first, before anyone else can. ~ Elsa Maxwell