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MY BOSS WON'T GIVE ME MY PAYMENT. Is anyone here a lawyer? HELP.  email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life 2 years ago

If you've read my discussions about my boss (please go to my profile for the links), you know almost everything that has happened.

Now, I've been asking him for the payment he owes me. He made me write 6 articles and do 6 blog posts before I resigned. I wrote the articles, and he accepted them without any complaints. As for the blog posts, that's where the problem started, so I don't really care if I get payment for those.

BUT HE WON'T PAY ME FOR MY ARTICLES. He's saying that I owe him because I wasted his time, he sent me some software WHICH I USED FOR THE TASKS HE MADE ME DO, and because he trained me. HE SAYS I OWE HIM FOR THAT.

Since I can't copy paste here, I posted the content of his e-mail here: http://gpvsfreelancewrite...

His website is http://marketinglifelines.com

I'm really in a panic right now, and I don't know what to do! It's only $30, probably a small amount for Americans, but it's still big, and HE OWES IT TO ME. By the way, it's only $30 for the articles alone, the blog posts are not yet included.

MyLot people, PLEASE HELP ME. :( I don't know what to do. I hate that guy! HE OWES ME. I can't believe he's so unprofessional like this!! angrycry

 

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1. myLot reputation of 78/100. 3honor (9749)   ranked 1,673 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

Jeeyah this has been pretty naive. You need to appoint your own lawyer you need someone you can trust you can't trust mylotters because you can't see in our eyes. The money is not important you have been badly treated he must have violated something in law and no, I don't believe you, consult a fully qualified employment lawyer. angry


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

I don't really know about getting my own lawyer because it seems that I might have to shell out a lot of cash for it. What do you mean that you don't believe me, though? :/ Thanks for the response, 3honor.


myLot reputation of 78/100. 3honor (9749)   ranked 1,673 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

First see if you can get no win no fee agreement many lawers do that even if they don't advertise it. Second you don't know enough about the law neither do I or anyone on mylot your OWN lawyer will ask you questions and apply the local law in your favour. That's why I don't believe you - you will tell me there's no case in law - I don't believe that.


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Do you know where I can get any lawyers who specialize mostly in online employment and such? I don't really know if it will work because he and I never signed a contract. I'm just a freelancer, so I don't know if the law will actually be on my side. :/ But thank you for those tips, 3honor. I just really need support right now from myLotters, so thank you!

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2. myLot reputation of 95/100. Auntiescarf (574)   ranked 1,670 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

Ohhh Im fuming!! After everything you have put him with him, this guy is an idiot, Ive just had a look at his twitter page, and saw the photo of the grinning idiot. Im really sorry babe, I dont know anything about whether it is legal for him to do this, hopefully someone here will know more about it. Ignore his stupid email, first off, you do not owe him anything, if he has provided you with training videos then that was up to him, as he never mentioned that you would have to pay, also you dont pay for his time he pays for yours, that is part of being a boss, and free software application, hello!! He just mentioned the word free, how on earth he has come up with this I dont know!

I was really hoping this wouldnt happen to you, I really hope someone here will be able to give you advice.

Good luck!


myLot reputation of 78/100. 3honor (9749)   ranked 1,673 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Me too Jeeyah XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

I was also fuming when I read his e-mail! I was seriously shocked, because I never thought he'd be THAT unprofessional. :|

And yes, the training videos and all those software were PART of the job. The training videos were basically the instructions (that weren't so clear, by the way). The software used were for the tasks that he made me do for his 'business'. I was like "WHAT THE @#$Q$!"

It's okay, auntiescard if you don't know about those legal stuff. I just need people who, I know, understand me and are on my side. :| And thank you so much for that! I just really don't know what to do. I'm actually thinking to let him not pay me anymore, but because of the way he treated me, I do NOT want to let him get away with this. And he calls himself a professional! And I'm the one who's juvenile! He accepted those articles without any complaints, and just because I argued with him and fought for my right, he's doing this!? doh

Anyway thank you so much again, Auntiescarf! I just need support right now, so really thank you so much!


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Thank you, 3honor!! Ayayayyy. :/


myLot reputation of 95/100. Auntiescarf (574)   ranked 1,670 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

I just re-read that email, try not to reply for a while untill you have calmly planned what you wanted to say, he seems like the type of person that loves to push peoples buttons to get a reaction. I dont know what to advise you, do these articles happen to be copyrighted by you, that would be good, as you could get them removed, but Im guessing as he was meant to pay you for them then they are probably not.

I really wish I knew more to help you! He's an idiot!!


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

I actually replied immediately after reading it, as I was too overwhelmed by my emotions not to reply. Guess what he said? I updated the page where I posted his first e-mail. I posted there his latest reply and my reply to his reply. Kindly read it and tell me what you think. :/

He actually made me write those articles, so those aren't copyrighted to me. So yea, I don't really know what to do.

It's okay, just the fact that you care already makes me feel a lot better. Thank you so much! :(


myLot reputation of 95/100. akuseru (2363)  2 years ago

Idiot doesn't begin to describe it.


myLot reputation of 95/100. Auntiescarf (574)   ranked 1,670 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

jeeyah I know this is probably not what you want to hear but your reply to him made me smile, the way you explained it was the same kind of way I would have explained it, and well done for not showing how frustrated you are, your reply was very to the point, you kept your emotions out of the email. Well done!


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Auntiescarf, for a moment there I thought you were going to say something bad to me! Thank you, I guess we really are alike in some ways. I don't know if you're really gonna take it as a good thing, lol, but yeah. :) I learned that I wouldn't be able to "tame" him if I kept on showing him how mad I was. It was really hard to contain my emotions, but thank God I managed to. Will keep you updated if he replies. Thanks so much Auntiescarf! I might not be able to reply in a bit (it's 4 AM here and I really need to sleep this off). But really a whole lot of thanks to you! Sorry, I've been saying "thank you" a lot, but it's just because I can't express how grateful I am to you, and to the others, as well!


myLot reputation of 74/100. markleob (942)   ranked 13,910 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

jeeh of course he should not count the amount of how much he has spent on these videos because once ha purchased this software, there always a FREE tutorial video from where he purchased it.

i have been working online for almost year but my boss didnt do like that. jeeh, find another online job. pm me, i will give a site full of jobs. it is proven good and will really pay..


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Well, he created the videos himself, but NOT just for me. He created it for his "team" (which, I think, no longer exists because he's so hard to deal with), and he just made me watch them so I could know exactly what to do. AND guess what? I followed them exactly everytime and there were times when he would CORRECT me, when I did exactly as what he said on the training videos.


myLot reputation of 95/100. Auntiescarf (574)   ranked 1,670 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

hey jeeyah, I just meant that with everything you have going on with this idiot that you probably wouldnt want this email to make me smile lol! But it did, it did seem like an email that I would write, I really hope there is something that can be done about this man, he's emails seems so cocky and arrogant! You and the rest of his team should set up a support group.


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Lol, well it's okay. Haha. And cocky and arrogant are an understatement! Lol. I don't really know if he still has a team of writers. During my first days, I guess there were 2 or 3 of us. Then he asked me if I knew a writer because one of his other writers seem to be flaking on him. Then as I went on with the job, he made me do basically everything, and I think I would know if there was someone else working for him, but it seems that I was the only one. So I guess that's what got him pissed off, because he doesn't have a worker anymore. Lol. But seriously I'm 99% sure that he doesn't have a team of workers anymore. Haha. Oh well, karmaaa. evil grinwhistle


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Auntiescarf!! The comments got deleted! And guess what, I e-mailed him and told him to delete my articles from his blog, and to not use them in any way or post them anywhere else, he didn't reply. But since he already saw the comments on his blog, I figure that he already went online. THE NERVE OF HIM!! He won't even just delete the articles he did not pay for!

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3. myLot reputation of 95/100. akuseru (2363)   2 years ago

Geez, what a jerk. thumbdown I'm not a lawyer, but I might be able to help a bit. I have a couple of questions, though:

1) What was the original agreement? Were you working for him as a freelancer? What was the pay you agreed upon per piece? Where did you come across the job?

2) What is the application he's talking about called?

3) Have you kept your emails to him and the responses you received, if and when he responded to you? What about other correspondence through IM or other methods?


myLot reputation of 95/100. akuseru (2363)  2 years ago

Also, has he published the articles anywhere?


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

1. Yes, I was working for him as a freelancer. He told me that the rate was $0.01 per word. So $5 per article. I saw the job posted on craigslist.

2. "DupeFree Pro" and the other is like a bunch of applications, like ASubmitter, ArNotepad, some stuff like that.

3. Yes, all his e-mails are still here. As for the conversations in Skype, I was so stupid that I deleted him from my contacts, so I don't know if I'd still be able to access our conversations there.

4. He asked me to post the 6 articles on his blog. The 2 are currently published now, while the rest are still scheduled to publish in a few days. He asked me to schedule the blog posts 3 days apart. (Yes, I was also tasked to post my own articles to his blog)

Thank you so much!


myLot reputation of 95/100. akuseru (2363)  2 years ago

1) Was there ever any mention of what rights were being given to him?

2) Can you give me the exact full names of all of the applications, please?


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

1) No, I'm afraid we never discussed that.

2) "DupeFree Pro" and "AutomaticArticleSubmitter". The second one is somehow like a zip file (but it's a program) which contains several tools like the "ARNotepad" and "ASubmitter". That's about it.


myLot reputation of 95/100. akuseru (2363)  2 years ago

He's lying about the value of the programs. DupeFree Pro is free, and AutomaticArticleSubmitter is only $97.

Doesn't matter, though. The compensation you agreed upon was money, not software. Unless you explicitly agreed to accept it in lieu of payment, he owes you money. I think it would cost more in legal fees than it would be worth to pursue it, though. sad

Too bad you can't just remove the articles from his site yourself since he won't pay you for them. sad


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

I'm not surprised about it, he lied about and denied a lot of stuff. He's so pathetic that he's even lying about the price of the programs. Thanks for the info, akuseru!

And yes, he voluntarily gave me the software as it would help me in making my job more efficient. And my job was to build his image and his business. So the software he provided was basically to help his own business.

And yes, that's also what I think about pursuing legal actions against him.

He told me that he was going to remove the articles, but I don't really think that it's still fair even though he does. Because he instructed me to write the articles, so it was basically "especially made" for him. Although I can try and sell them, it would be really hard on my part. And he accepted the articles in the first place, so I don't see any valid reason why he would refuse to pay me. He's paid me a lot of times before, but now just because I resigned, he's saying those stuff and refusing to pay me. :/

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4. myLot reputation of 86/100. sushie93 (1143)   ranked 7,285 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

Erf, sorry for you to meet a so bad client!
Well, i think that 30$ doesn't worth to look for a lawyer but do as you want.
Where did you meet this client? It was on a freelance website?
If yes, you can contact them to open a dispute.


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Yea, I also think that it's too small to make a big fuss about, but I still believe that it's my right, you know? And maybe I could sue him big. Lol, but yea I'm just kidding. I really don't know what to do.

He posted the job ad on Craigslist and I applied. :/


myLot reputation of 86/100. sushie93 (1143)   ranked 7,285 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Hm, don't know if you can contact CraigList...


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Yea, I don't think it's still part of their concerns or liabilities. :(


myLot reputation of 74/100. markleob (942)   ranked 13,910 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

jeeh, try onlinejobs.ph or odesk employers there really pay... . i already had 5 employers from the start and all of them really pays...


myLot reputation of 86/100. sushie93 (1143)   ranked 7,285 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Yeah, i heard many positive reviews about Odesk and also Freelancer.com, i'm there and won 2 projects and one full time, always get paid by my employees. Those websites are freelance websites where you can open a dispute if you haven't been paid not like with Craiglist.

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5. myLot reputation of 99/100. mentalward (6158)   ranked 83 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

Do you have a written agreement with him? If not, I suppose you could sue him for plagiarism. I'm sure you could prove that you wrote these articles before he came into possession of them.

If you don't have a written agreement with him about payment and you can't actually prove that he plagiarized your articles, you could at least tell him that you can and will sue him unless you receive payment. It might scare him enough to at least pay you for what you've done.

Good luck!


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

I don't suppose I have a written agreement with him. But I don't know if it's really worth my time, since I'm afraid that other people would view it as such a small thing, considering the amount involved.

Anyway, I've thought about that, but considering the way he has been replying and treating me, I don't think it will be effective. I don't think that he would actually believe that I would be able to do that. He might just throw it back at me and proceed to blab about other things that don't make sense. :/

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6. myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 956 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

jeeyah well I am one American who does value thirty dollars highly. do y you have an equivalent of our fair labor board in your country or area? If so you do need to report this jerk of a man to the board as what he is doing is illegal, he wants free labor so he tees off the people he chose then gets their work and probably fires them. He is a real jerk
in my eyes.Also we have lawyers here who do pro bono work, that means free and if you have anything similar where the lawyer will take on your case just to do good without expecting payment go get one and see if you c an nail that jerk employer of yours. good luck God Blessangrythumbdownglare


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

I really don't know if there's an equivalent in my country, or if they would actually care. Lol. Well, just to clear it out, I was the one who resigned because I felt mistreated. He did pay me before, but now he won't because I guess he got pissed off that I stood up to him and argued with him. :/

Do you know where I can find those kinds of lawyers, Hatley? I don't really know if consulting a lawyer would be worth it, but since most of you suggested it, then I'll look into it. Thanks so much Hatley!

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7. myLot reputation of 60/100. pierone (1127)   ranked 4,661 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

Hello "Ex-Slave" ;)

I guess you can't do anything. More you're in philippines, he's in US (if I understood well), and the site where you meeted was US. So probably for the US laws, you should file a legal iussue in an US court.

But what WE ALL can do, is let this man spend some of his "valuable business time" in answering our emails!

In the site page, there is a CONTACT section. If ANY of myLotters will spend 10 minutes of their time checking the site, and asking him some more proper information, probably he will need to answer to everyone, right? And he will spend lot of time for nothing. This will give not you your money back, but, at least, you will know he got some hard moments ;)

In addiction WE ALL can post a comment to your articles (as Ex-Slave already done). He will need to delete all, but we can post them everyday.
I commented one of the Ex-Slave comments. I guess you can see it ;)

Have a nice time, friend, wish things will go better in future ;)
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myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Lol, you read my comments. I didn't really know what else to do so yea. It was sort of my last resort. Lol.

I like that idea! It would be nice to get back at him like that! Lol. I just feel a little bit shy to ask for all of you guys' help. But if some myLotters do have some free time, then why not! That really made me smile. :)

I just read your comment, and it made me smile again. I really appreciate the effort and support you're giving! :D Thank you so much!

I guess the reason why this happened to me is for me to meet you kind myLotters! I'm actually looking at the bright side of it now. Thanks so much again, pierone, and to the others who're trying to help! :)


myLot reputation of 74/100. markleob (942)   ranked 13,910 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

if you comment, he can still delete this commment because he has all the control as what will come out to this site.


myLot reputation of 60/100. pierone (1127)   ranked 4,661 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Sure, he CAN still delete comments. BUT! First: he should be awake to do that, is a man, he need to sleep. We are from all the parts of the world, we are many, he's alone....
We need 2 minutes, he need hours ;)
Let him have some gym with the mouse. At least we do that for his hillness, right? ;)


myLot reputation of 74/100. markleob (942)   ranked 13,910 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

i have commented in his site too....


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Thanks so much, guys! :)

Mark, where'd you post your comment? I wanna see. Lol. Thanks :)


myLot reputation of 95/100. Auntiescarf (574)   ranked 1,670 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

How are you commenting? Ive had a look and it doesnt show any comments, unless it has already been deleted, and what sort of comments are you writing, give me some tips and I will join the fun lol!


myLot reputation of 95/100. Auntiescarf (574)   ranked 1,670 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

jeeyah, are any of your articles still up? which ones?


myLot reputation of 95/100. Auntiescarf (574)   ranked 1,670 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Im trying but it wont let me, says my post will need to be approved by a moderator, obviously wont happen lol!!


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Auntiescarf, all of them are still up. Lol. But most of them were paid because I wrote them weeks ago. As for the ones that he didn't pay for.. It's the "Importance of Effective Network Marketing Training Online" and "Success through Valuable Multi Level Marketing Leads".. The 4 other ones will be posted one of these days automatically, unless he deletes them. Because the blog posts are scheduled to be posted 3 days apart, so the 4 other ones are still on queue.

Oh and if you want to, just post! Lol. At least when he reads them we can piss him off. lol Even though he doesn't post them. Lol. And since I think the IP addresses can be seen, he'll know that the whole world already knows about him devil


myLot reputation of 95/100. Auntiescarf (574)   ranked 1,670 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Ok its not letting me comment at all, I dont know how you managed, and they are still up! Well done


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Maybe there's a glitch on the comments thingy system or something. Lol, but I bet ya they're all gonna be gone in a few hours. But oh well, at least I'm sure he's gonna get irritated. Lol.


myLot reputation of 95/100. Auntiescarf (574)   ranked 1,670 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

So somehow some of my comments have come up, guess the moderator must have approved them lol!


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Lol, we shall see if they get deleted tomorrow. I hope they don't, though. Lol. But it's really odd that he would approve the comments. I don't think he's the type to do that, considering he's so unprofessional. Prolly a glitch. But yea, who cares! Saw your comments, and thanks so much!

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8. myLot reputation of 74/100. markleob (942)   ranked 13,910 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

wow, sorry to hear that jeeh.

i guess the problem started when you are suppose posting those articles in his blog. you should have watched video tutorials for that. when i started online job, i use google and youtube as my armors.. you can find there tutorials the hows and whats.

anyway, despite the lapses, he should have paid you the right and fair amount. you cant do anything about it except to wait for him to realize you deserved a salary.

just type this message for him and i am sure he will pay you



"okay sir, i understand you will not really pay me. GODBLESS you and your business!"


mind you, he will pay you!


myLot reputation of 60/100. pierone (1127)   ranked 4,661 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Hmmmm, where GODBLESS is a foreigner word that means "wish you will spend all your money in a chemist's"?


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

I have been working for him for quite some time, so I don't really know what you're talking about, mark, about watching video tutorials. I know how to post blogs and all those, and yes, he provided a video training for his "employees" as a guide in posting on his blog, because he asks for too much.

I don't really know if I should send him that. I'm just simply not gonna message him anymore, and I believe in karma, so yeah.

But thanks so much for the reply, Mark!


myLot reputation of 74/100. markleob (942)   ranked 13,910 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

God knows everything and He knows how to teach a lesson to everyone especially the sinners..


myLot reputation of 60/100. pierone (1127)   ranked 4,661 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

God knows everything but seems sometimes he have no time to teach to anyone. Otherwise how could we explain he forgot to teach something to people like Hitler (the german nazi chief who started the WWII and tried to realize the "final solution" to the jewish problem)?

We are in the "DIY" age, do it yourself!

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9. myLot reputation of 99/100. basqui (1385)   ranked 657 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

That was very unfortunate of you, maybe you'd better find some boss with big reputation in the future.

Hope that won't turn out for me coz I just started as a writer at constant-content but haven't started writing yet, I'm still researching if they really pay.


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

He made it seem to me like he had a big reputation. Well, he does have a good reputation when it comes to business, but I never thought he would be as unprofessional as that.

I think constant-content pays, but it's good that you research first.

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10. myLot reputation of 96/100. geniustiger (1358)   ranked 9,421 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

Hi jeeyah!
Hope you are in good mood today. You try to approach him
in personal and ask your payment about what you have
deal with. If he will hesitate to do it then try to go
to your labor office or public lawyers and ask good advices
in what to do with it. I'm sure he will afraid of it if
you consult the personnel for that or the lawyers about
job. If you have some evidence with it then nothing could
be afraid to fight for your right. It is a good way to let
people know that not all men can be fooled by just always
promised and then nothing is done with that debt. Work at it
then I am very pretty sure that you will be paid of it if
you look for a lawyer or an adviser.


myLot reputation of 96/100. jeeyah (259)   ranked 2,213 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Hello geniustiger! I'm fine now, thanks to the support of myLotters and my lover. :) Anyway, it was an online job, and I don't think I'd go to Las Vegas just to get my payment. Lol. I've thought about suing him, but I really don't have the money and the guts to do so. And besides, I'm still too young so I don't know if I'd be able to handle it and if it could really help. Thanks, though!!

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