Rand Paul: "Criticism of BP Un-American"!  | | | | Wow. I mean WTF, it was "Un-American" of President Obama to criticize BP for their part in the Gulf of Mexico oil spill disaster? Here are a few examples of what he said on this morning's "Good Morning America" on ABC: "What I don't like from the president's administration is this sort of, 'I'll put my boot heel on the throat of BP.'I think that sounds really un-American in his criticism of business." On the oil spill, Paul, a libertarian and tea party favorite, said he had heard nothing from BP indicating it wouldn't pay for the spill that threatens devastating environmental damage along the Gulf of Mexico coast. "And I think it's part of this sort of blame-game society in the sense that it's always got to be somebody's fault instead of the fact that maybe sometimes accidents happen." He also blamed the 24 hour news cycle for the controversy over his civil rights act comments. : http://abcnews.go.com/Bus... It kind of looks like he doesn't like to have businesses like big oil or the coal mining industry blamed for their "accidents" but it's fine for HIM to blame someone or something else for HIS gaffes. It also seemed that he'd forgotten who he's running to represent following his primary victory on Tuesday night. He mentioned and thanked the tea party many times during his victory speech but mentioned the state of Kentucky just once. I have to wonder just whom he intends to serve if elected. Any comments? Annie | | | | | | | | | | Local Coupons 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Save 50-90% on your city's best! www.Groupon.com
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| 1. lilwonders456 (3526)
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2 years ago
| | Well I can kinda see what he is saying. BP has said they will pay the bill. Why is the president all over them about the cost of the oil spill when they have already said to Obama they will pay it. Just send them the bill...only get ugly about the bill if they refuse to pay it. But so far (and I mean so far) BP has said they will pay it whatever the cost is. As for what happened.....I have not seen an official report yet...so I can't say if it was an "accident" which yes can happen. Or if BP could have avoided what happened. So I can't say either way right now. If the reports shows it was a fluke that a three fail safes failed at the same time. Fine it was an "accident" and we need to look at how to make sure that kind of 'accdient" does not happen again. If it comes out that BP was grossly negligant in their safety protocols....then I say the American people need to go after BP with everything they have. Personally being a free market guy...he is probly thinking that if anyone should be "putting their boot on the BPs throat" it should be the American consumer. Don't like the way BP runs it's company? Don't buy BP gas. Don't stop at a BP gas station. Get your gas somewhere else. As for the "controversy" over his civil rights comments....well one..they have been blown out of proportions. Two...he needs to do a better job of explain his free market views in more detail. I know all about free market so I know what he is talking about...but a lot of people don't. which leaves room for misconceptions and misunderstandings. As for the "tea party"...well he better thank them. The tea party in Kentucky worked their butts off (most for free) to work on his campaign.By the way...the tea party is pretty big in Kentucky. If elected...he will serve the state of Kentucky....which from the look of the primary most of them tend to agree with his views. Which would mean they agree with most of the tea party views. We will have to wait and see in November for the general. But Rand won that primary by a "rand slide" as some of us like to say. | | | | | | | anniepa (11669)
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2 years ago
| | I'll address the last part of your response first; it well may be that the overwhelming majority of those who voted in the GOP primary agree with most of the tea party views. However, that WAS just a primary election, in November we'll see how the entire electorate in Kentucky votes. I realize Kentucky is a very red state so it's probably a safe bet that Paul will win but it's really not a done deal and I have little doubt there are quite a few of those who voted for him who had no clue of what some of his views are on issues such as civil rights, disabled Americans and big business. About BP, I haven't heard that they've said they'll pay the entire bill. What I did hear was a lot of finger pointing between BP and the other two companies involved, Transocean and Haliburton. I'm not going to go into a lot of details about the "mistakes" made by the three companies because, to be honest, it's all "Greek" to me, but it's clear this just wasn't some freak accident that happened despite everyone's best efforts. There hasn't been any official report issued so far but it's pretty clear this tragedy was caused by negligence corner cutting by these companies in the name of maximizing profits. In general, I have no problem with Paul stating his opinion even if it is to defend big oil over the American people. However, I guess it's his use of "Un-American" that bothers me. It's disturbing that that's the new buzzword whenever someone disagrees with someone. Annie | | | | thegreatdebater (1837)
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2 years ago
| | Lil, Exxon said they would pay as well, and they didn't. They waited till an oil friend president came in office (who they donated a lot of money to), and walked away from all of their responsibilities. So, pardon those of us that know the history of the oil industry when it comes to clean ups. They don't have a great track record. The problem with boycotting BP oil is that they don't only sell their oil to BP stations. See if you have a BP refinery or rack that is near a BP refinery you have no idea who's fuel you are really getting. We have a refinery near my house, and I know that they supply many none BP stations, because I deal with many of the companies that use their fuel, and when they have a problem with the fuel, they call me. His comments have been stupid, and he really should apologize for them, and move on. The more he defends these stupid comments the more votes he loses, and the more people will question the candidates that are running under the tea party name. I don't think people that are in the tea party movement are racist, or anything like that at all. But, comments like Rand's sure don't help ANYONE!!!!! | | | | lilwonders456 (3526)
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2 years ago
| | I can agree with you on the whole "un-american" thing. I hated when anyone who criticized Bush was called that...or anyone who criticized anyone in politics...It IS the American way to criticize. I don't like that Rand Paul used the word now. I can understand where he is coming from....but I do think he is being nieve. I had not heard yet what caused the leak so thanks for filling me in...cost cutting...well looks like that cost cutting just cost them a ton of money. They will pay it. Why? becuase of the public preasure if they don't. The american public is mad as heck and they should be...when Obama submits them the bill...they will pay it and better count themselves lucky that is all that happening to them. great debater- I can't argue with your logic...oil companies don't have a good track record...so they should be watched carefully. But I don't see the point of putting "our boots on thier throats" until they actually try to not pay. Then go at them with everything you have. As for the gas....just my personal opinion...but I think every gas station should have to tell you what company and country the gas you are buying from them comes from. That way I can decide if I want their gas or not. Gives the consumer more power. You can make an educated decision then. | | | | | | | Local Coupons 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Save 50-90% on your city's best! www.Groupon.com | add comment | | | |
| 2. matersfish (2667)
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2 years ago
| | I don't know much of anything about Rand Paul. But I do see that myLot is buzzing about the guy. The usual stuff - some for, others against in any possible way they can be against. I find it funny he's autmatically transformed into a typical politician by the media, while he won the primary for not being part of the same machine. | | | | | | | | | | Buy BP Now? New Report: 5 Oil Stocks Under $10 Set to Rebound in Late 2010- Free WyattResearchEnergy.com/Oil | add comment | | | |
| 3. laglen (7665)
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2 years ago
| | Annie, I thin what he meant was that the comments from the administration were uncalled for. BP said from the very beginning that they wuld do everything they could to fix it and will pay all legitimate claims. The Administration kept hounding over something un needed. what the hell else were BP supposed to do? What warrants such a juvenile threat as 'I'll put my boot heel on the throat of BP | | | | | | | anniepa (11669)
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2 years ago
| | Hey, I agree that there are too many juvenile comments and threats made by many politicians. However, I can think of several things BP should have done from what I've been hearing since the accident. This never should have happened and I have a feeling once all the investigations are through we'll learn it was all about greed and making more profits. I'm not anti-business but I am against corporations cutting corners when it puts peoples lives in danger and risks an environmental and economic disaster such as this one. Obviously, there was no threat against an individual person that a boot heel would be against their throat. As I've said before, this "Anti-American" talk is really getting old. Annie | | | | | | | Political Chat Share your Political Views In a Fun Social Environment! www.livecitizen.com | add comment | | | |
| 4. Rollo1 (2827)
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2 years ago
| | Interestingly, just 18 days before the spill, Obama said of his plans to expand off-shore drilling: "I don’t agree with the notion that we shouldn’t do anything. It turns out, by the way, that oil rigs today generally don’t cause spills. They are technologically very advanced. Even during Katrina, the spills didn’t come from the oil rigs, they came from the refineries onshore." BP might be in a position to put some blame on Transocean, since BP didn't design or build the rig, Transocean did and the rig was on lease to BP. However, BP has not said anything to dispute its legal obligations regarding claims stemming from the oil spill. It seems a bit ridiculous to be publicly threatening them over something that has not happened. Especially since BP was a finalist for a safety award from the Obama administration until this happened. I guess if you are not completely anti-business, any business, you can understand the posturing and blame game of saying something as ridiculous as threatening to put your boot heel on the throat of a company. One very good reason to believe that BP wouldn't negligently allow such a spill is that they lose a lot of money and don't make any money off oil spilling into the ocean. Seems unlikely that it could be anything but an accident. This is a tragedy, but like most tragedies there are only so many things you can do to prevent them. Perhaps, if Rand Paul, when he was two years old, had made a statement in favor of passing the civil rights act, no one would question his support for it now. It's clear that suggestions that he wants to repeal it are flights of imagination from some media commentators. It's very unlikely that other candidates will be quizzed on their stances on legislation passed when they were toddlers. I think he's trying to appeal to the voters who show a modicum of common sense. I hope there's enough of them. Based on the Congress we have now, I wonder... | | | | | | | anniepa (11669)
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2 years ago
| | Believe me, I wasn't at all pleased with the President's change of heart regarding off-shore drilling but I realized he'd probably felt he had no choice but to show some willingness to compromise with the "Drill baby drill" crowd if he had any hope of passing any kind of energy bill. I don't think anyone is denying the explosion and oil spill was an "accident". However, it sure seems to me that there were many steps that could have prevented it not taken in the name of profits. We can debate or argue about the President's choice of words when he made his "boot heel on the throat" remark; that's not something I'd have said. However, neither is the accusation of being Un-American something I'd say! Regarding Paul's recent controversial remarks, it really wasn't the media that started it, it was his opponent in the general election who made the claim Paul had said he'd repeal the Civil Rights Act. I believe the interest in the subject all stemmed from a letter to the editor he'd written several years ago. Personally, I'd definitely want to know if the candidate I'd considered voting for believed businesses had the right to discriminate against people due to race. Annie | | | | | | | Politics: Warren's site Get Involved. Rebuild the Middle Class. ElizabethWarren.com/ | add comment | | | |
| 5. astonysh (4492)
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2 years ago
| | You won't find me on MyLot much these days (I spend more of my time on the Huffington Post - some great comments on Rand Paul there in the last couple of days if you want to check it out). As I am not American I do not like to get into this sort of discussion too much, but I was always under the impressions that Americans laid great store upon the efforts of small businesses. So what do people make of the people running small fishing businesses in the Gulf who may lose their livelihoods long-term as a result of this oil spill? Is it un-American to offer them support? And if it is simply a matter of them suing BP for compensation, who will be able to afford the better lawyers? This could drag on for years as happened in the Exxon Valdez case. Eventually when a big company makes a major mistake that may affect the well-being of thousands of people, why is it wrong to criticise them? | | | | | | | | | | Obama Campaign Offices Find Local Barack Obama Campaign yellowpages.com | add comment | | | |
| 6. artistry (1857)
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2 years ago
| | ..Hi annie, Dr. Paul has stepped in it up to his eyeballs and he will need all his skills as an opthomologist to extract himself. What the hay, is this his way of saying let the free market do whatever they very well want to do and let them as well keep on drilling. We can handle a little "accident". These strange people never cease to amaze me. These are not theories this man is espousing, he truly believes what he is saying. He was not ready as someone said, for prime time. you don't deliberate with yourself on television on the Civil Rights Act, as he did with Rachel the other night. I hope the Democrat who faces him in November is prepared to debate the issues to continue to expose Dr. Paul's flawed soul as he has already started to do himself. I really think some in the Tea Party are wondering what and who they endorsed. "o) I love it. Take care. | | | | | | | | | | Bp Gas Looking For Bp Gas? Find It Nearby With Local.com! Local.com | add comment | | | |
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