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myLot reputation of 81/100. bird123 (3483)   ranked 167 out of 6,501 in religion 2 years ago

We all have the power to choose what we deem important in this world. People choose that the wealthy are most important. Rich movie stars, singers, executives, politicians all carry people following them. Every year they name the world's richest people. Do you value the rich over the poor?? Is this what God really wants????

We are all God's children so we are all equal in God's eyes. The homeless beggar on the street is every bit as good as the richest man. Have you listened to any beggars lately???? Why do people think they have nothing to say???? Everyone holds a different view. God gave us so many different views so that we could see a larger picture than any one person could. There is so much a person does not see in life. That's why we have each other. Could you be missing a point of view by only listening to the rich??

Perhaps people value the rich because they want to be rich and hope to gain secrets. Being a truly wealthy person has very little to do with money. Spiritual wealth is really the only true wealth. If God sees all people as equal, maybe we should as well. Let's find out what we are missing. Who knows by interacting and maybe helping a poor person, you might learn the greatest lesson of all.

 

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1. myLot reputation of 98/100. AjaySinghBaghel (2133)   ranked 159 out of 6,501 in religion   2 years ago

I look at those beggers with the disability to earn and not the one with fancy shoe and a google that looks good on their face. I have seen healthy and fit peoples begging, that is not done. I value human being and not the rich or poor. It depends on the person. A rich bad person is nor good however a good poor person is much better than the earlier one.
One day a beeger said NAMASTE to me in my language here in Chicago and I stopped and looked at him, he was fit enough to work and earn for his daily requirements but begging looks easier way.


myLot reputation of 81/100. bird123 (3483)   ranked 167 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

I have heard a story where someone drove to a shopping center then went begging all day. This man said he made more money than getting a job. Nothing is ever black and white. There are lessons on both sides of everything. Thanks for all your comments!!


myLot reputation of 98/100. AjaySinghBaghel (2133)   ranked 159 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

I can believe you, this may be true. It may be a business without investing any money but time.

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2. myLot reputation of 92/100. vandana7 (6656)   ranked 21 out of 6,501 in religion   2 years ago

Hi bird - I am going to differ slightly on this - I will accept if both rich and poor are equally hard working, and one makes grade while other keeps on struggling. Then it is of course a case when both need to be treated on par!

But I cant really hate the rich. You look at them spending hours and hours making all that money which they use to start another enterprise - which earns them some profit of course - but also feeds so many employees and their families! And the taxes they pay go to benefit the poor as well. All that toil and hardwork! They could have sat in a corner like me, said I have enough for my food, clothing, shelter, and medicine, why should I struggle any more!

In contrast many of the poor feel jealous. He is not paying me enough anyway so why should I be sincere. And they have more kids than they can feed, making a big dent on taxes! I will cite the example of my maid. Throughout her life, she didnt work. She is about 54 now, and has been working for the last couple of years. She had four children. Elder boy doesnt want to look after his parents. Nor does the elder daughter. The younger daughter doesnt want to work, she is married and has happily transferred the reesponsibility of her daughter to her aged mother. The younger son is not working - he is about 27 years old, and to top it all he is alcoholic. The society is asking her to get him married! :)

The old lady grumbles that she cant do much as she is not accustomed to doing so much hardwork. The daughter grumbles that her parents didnt earn enough for her. They live in rented accommodation and have nothing to bank on for old age. Government offers them absolutely free medication. Other than that, they dont have even a television set.

You tell me whether I should have any value for her children.

I think any help should essentially be confined to a specific period. People get accustomed to taking and start living off such help. I think people whose lives are uprooted because of some calamity like earthquake or cyclone or tornado or hurricane deserve help for a few years till they find their bearings. Monies should go towards helping such people, and not lazy ones. I cant really pity lazy poor!

So my value of a person differs case by case.


myLot reputation of 81/100. bird123 (3483)   ranked 167 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

This discussion isn't about hating rich people because they are rich. They shouldn't be placed on a pedestal is the point. On the other side,there are poor people who are poor in order that they learn lessons in life. Like you said the choice to be lazy must bring consequences in order to learn. If a poor person is poor to learn lessons, you will not be able to help them anyway. God will not let mankind prevent school. There are many ways to help, other than monetary. Interaction can bring ideas. Pointing them in the right direction is always a gift. We are all children of God. In that we are all special. You never know when another's view might change your life with an idea. Accept the gift from anyone. Don't forget to give a few gifts as well. Share that which is special about you with as many as possible. We are all the ones who can shape the world for the better. I think I will keep my eyes open. I might just suggest to a lazy person just what wonders can be accomplished through just a little hard work. Thanks Vandana7 for the idea and all the comments!!


ccsfowler (3)  2 years ago

It is easy to say we shouldn't judge but we are all guilty of this at one time or another. When you see a homeless person with a sign that says "will work for food" you can't help but think then "why don't you go get a job". There is a man who sits at the same shopping center median everyday. He has been there for at least a year. Hi sign reads "Homeless, please help". I do try to have empathy and imagine the situation he has gone through to get into such a sad state but then I also think that if even half the time he spent sitting there with his sign was spent looking for real work or trying to seek assistance then he could already be employed. I find that personally I am more likely to want to help those who help themselves or those that are defenseless. I am a very charitable person but find I give more financially and more of my time to working people struggling to make ends meet or sick children then I do the wealthy or the poor.


myLot reputation of 92/100. vandana7 (6656)   ranked 21 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

@bird, the lazy ones are always the ones who mind others business, and when advised they are likely to tell us to mind ours. I steer clear of them. :) Then again what constitutes help is pertinent. Even hardworking person may ask for help. If he or she is asking help to enjoy something like a cruise, I would not be able to spare. Nor would I be able to spare for dowries or costly clothes or jewelry or upbringing of their kids notwithstanding the fact that they are hardworking. I look for actual helplessness, and need when I have to help. Dowry to me means the person is over reaching may be. I mention this because I was asked to spare for that out of my retirement savings - on no return basis, and I refused, which made many people look at me as if I was selfish. But who knows, I might come in for dementia, and need enough for survival. I couldnt possibly be running to them at that stage. And there were very good matches which my friend refused solely because they didnt belong to the same community! So to me there is difference between fulfilling wishes, and actually helping.

@ccsfowler, it is so true! I too like to help those who are struggling to help themselves rather than those who just sit in one corner expecting the world to take care of them. The only exception to this rule in my case would be people whose lives have been disrupted by natural calamities or wars. At that point of time they are too dazed to find their bearings may be, and their existing debts would start compounding, adding to their stress. So, in such cases, I would help, even if the person has not worked for a week or a month. But beyond that, I would expect him or her to recoup. I might be a bit cruel here, but people who create stress for themselves without external factors really doing it for them dont get my sympathy.


myLot reputation of 81/100. bird123 (3483)   ranked 167 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

Each situation is different. Yes, I do want people I help to be at least trying to help themselves. Of course, those who are so down that they have just given up require lots of moral support first. For the person too lazy to go to work, saying no is the right help. There are many ways to help. Financial help isn't always the best help one can give. Thanks everyone for all the comments!!

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3. myLot reputation of 74/100. anbfriend63 (251)   2 years ago

when we view other people that are rich, a state of mind comprising of "they would have worked hard to earn so much" is created.but after actually viewing the person that is gauging the rich person from his character our viewpoint may change. according to me the person should be valued by his character not with whether the person is rich or poor.according to me thr beggars have poor character just because they live in that sort of environment.so is it correct to blame beggars for their attitude just because they were born in that sort of environment.


myLot reputation of 81/100. bird123 (3483)   ranked 167 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

Yes, we can't always blame the beggar for their challenges in life. A few suggestions to them could mean more than a monetary donation. Who knows, we might come out of it with knowledge as well. As for the rich, some have not been honest, however some are honest and are doing great things in this world. You are right. Character is important. Thanks for all your comments.

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4. myLot reputation of 72/100. jamed28 (1367)   ranked 2,917 out of 6,501 in religion   2 years ago

I don't think so. I don't make friends with those rich people. They have a pretty expensive lifestyle and I can afford to be their friend. Some might take the opportunity of befriending them, to experience their lifestyle, but I am not into it. Sorry but that's me.


myLot reputation of 81/100. bird123 (3483)   ranked 167 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

So if you became rich, you could find much better things to do with your money other than material things. OK! I'm the same way. Thanks for your comment.

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5. myLot reputation of 86/100. prateek149 (375)   2 years ago

I dont value rich and poor. The first thing is some rich people may be good some may be bad also similarly poor people are are same alike. They are poor dont means there spirits are good all times. It depends upon what kind of people is. A person should be good from inner whether rich or poor. The person should not be valued by the wealth he have. The goodness in him should be valued.


myLot reputation of 81/100. bird123 (3483)   ranked 167 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

Yes, I agree. Money has little to do with who we really are. If they don't come out as very good people, maybe it's time to interact and let our goodness influence them in the right direction. Thanks for the comments.

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6. mbtshoes2010 (22)   2 years ago

The wealth of the mind is the only true wealth.Even if we have no money,we couldn't let our spiritual poverty.I'm sure the god sees all people as equal,so we should see the rich and poor as well.


myLot reputation of 81/100. bird123 (3483)   ranked 167 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

Yes, WEALTH OF THE MIND!! I do like this!! If everyone would strive for that, think of all the problems that would be solved. Thanks!!

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7. myLot reputation of 91/100. syankee525 (5263)   ranked 128 out of 6,501 in religion   2 years ago

i know alot of people both rich and poor. some rich people are the biggest jerks and snobby well some of the poor people i know are the nicest and kindest people ever.
so to me being rich or poor isnt the question its the person themself and how they carry themself. like me i would fall under poor but i am a good hearted person who will reach out to help others if i can. give me last dollar to help. go and help all hours of the nights.
so to me its the person themself not what they have. seen so many who will treat people different by how much money they make.


myLot reputation of 81/100. bird123 (3483)   ranked 167 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

When one finds a poor person willing to give you the shirt off their back so to speak, there is alot that can be learned spiritually from them. Thanks for your comments!!


myLot reputation of 92/100. vandana7 (6656)   ranked 21 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

That is a very sane reply syankee. :) I agree. It is the person, and not the wealth or lack of it that influences how we interact with them.

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8. myLot reputation of 94/100. gennyk (5760)   2 years ago

we are all equal in the eyes of God, no one is above the other in His kingdom. the only difference is the status in the society here in living world, the earth.

therefore, i value each person equal. but i am into poor people rather than to rich. aside from me being poor, it is a good feeling being with poor. you will surely see the value of life, and the meaning of life. because life is a struggle. have a nice day!


myLot reputation of 81/100. bird123 (3483)   ranked 167 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

So nothing is taken for granted like some people might do. Good ideas. Thanks. Perhaps if a few of the very wealthy experienced this, it would change the world. Thanks for all your comments!!

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9. myLot reputation of 66/100. Starchaser (773)   2 years ago

I should have respond to this many hours ago, but since I used a phone, mylot denied it. Mylot took my response as copy and paste thing, and I lost everything I wrote.

No, I don't. I respect the rich as I respect the poor, as I see them for the people they are, not their status.

I think people value the rich because they think they may get some help from the rich in the future, whatever kind of help this may be.


myLot reputation of 81/100. bird123 (3483)   ranked 167 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

Respect rich and poor alike. Yes, I like that and on our road to discovery, interact with them all. We can never know in advance what actions we take will change everyone.Sometimes even the smallest thing will mean alot. Thanks Starchaser for stopping by with your comments.

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10. josh_box (17)   2 years ago

i rather value poor people its because when poor people is a person that dont hide ther personality. when you help poor people they will remember you and they wont easily forget the good thing that you done. rather than rich people mostly hide ther personality. its just like when rich people smile you dont dont if there happy or just having fun at you..


myLot reputation of 81/100. bird123 (3483)   ranked 167 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

Interesting point. The snobs of the world can't be happy all bottled up. Better to open up and make a difference in this world. Thanks for your comments!!

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