No more fairy tales?( Feminists Is need your help)

United States
May 28, 2012 9:19pm CST
With the new vision of women , would you read Any fairytale to your daughter? I asked after I heard of a mom who's daughter wondered why the princess didn't fight in the Princess Bride.And now with this new version of Snow White I wondered if any parent that wants their daughter to fight her own battles will ever read Cinderella or the original Snow White. Your thoughts.
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@GreenMoo (11833)
29 May 12
Maybe fairy tales aren't perfect, but neither is the real world. I'd prefer a daughter of mine fought real injustice than imaginary.
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• United States
30 May 12
Ok. Me? I'm glad I got to know My Girl Snow White and Cinderella.And to set things straight my guy is my Prince Charming!
@syramoon (654)
• United States
1 Jun 12
I'm a feminist, not an extremist, but a feminist as in equality. I just wanted to say that before I stated my opinion, just so you know the point of view I'm coming from, because an extremist might disagree with me all together, because I've met several who do. If I had children, I would read them the fairy tales, because they're fiction. It's just like when a bunch of extremist Christians didn't want their kids reading Harry Potter. It's fiction. And the way I look at it, is that I would read them to my daughters, and as a parent make sure they knew they were fiction, and that a woman has many choices and life, and even if one chooses to be a princess, she can also fight her battles and stand up for herself. Because even princesses are held responsible for their actions. Another reason I would read my daughters the fairy tales, are that they do represent a time period mentality, and I would want them to see how far women have came in making men see that we are their equals, and that we as women have to work hard to keep doing so. That as women, we still have a long battle ahead of us for true equality.
• United States
1 Jun 12
Why do you want women to lower themselves to be equal with men? As I see it women have Always been stronger in some ways than men. And men are stronger than women in other ways . To try to make them equal is pointless.But with that said. As long as the title remains the same . I mean fireman Not fireperson, then both genders should be paid the same. So if you see women as equals And that they are Suppose to fight their own battles it is wiser to not read to old fiction fairy-tales, especially to a Capricorn child like I was. I could detect B.S, from a mile away. I would see the fairy-tale and then the real life stuff as a bait and switch. I would cling to the first version and throw away the second! I totally understand the ultra Christians not having their kids read Harry Potter. They take the written word as fact, not fiction. so to have their child read about wizards would make them believe in wizards, something completely against the rules. Remember, they people are descendants of the Puritans. And the Puritans didn't have a sese of humor And saw All entertainment as sinful.So it makes perfect sense!
• United States
1 Jun 12
The kids of ultra Christians are either just like their parents or they rebel. Now it all depends on the child how bad it gets! I see and agree on how dangerous Harry Potter is to the ultra Christian. But then again not all art is for everybody! I only like Snow White. I don't remember being read Cinderella. In fact the reason I remember Snow white is because I have a record of it. I mean a vinyl record with BBC English voices and a full orchestra. That is why you couldn't Pay me to see this new version. I am a male chauvinist. I'm for men more than women .so I see Snow White not letting Prince Charming save her as an insult. Yes I said Let him. When it comes to this so called battle of the sexes I Know women have already won! A straight woman can live without a man as a straight man Needs women. war won! everything else is minor. ps. Wait! Did I Just miss your birthday? Is it coming up. Send me a PM if it is coming up.
@syramoon (654)
• United States
1 Jun 12
As in equal, I met the same pay for the same job and other things like that, which still doesn't always happen. And in some ways biologically speaking, we had to be stronger because of our reproduction system. And I've never been one to try to go around being 'politically correct' and change fireman to fireperson, that's never been high on my agenda. I guess being the Gemini child I was, I seen a lot of possibilities to the same story. I was never fond of the fairy tales when I was younger, and I remember crying in one of them when the dragon was slayed. During high school, I remember writing a short story from the dragon's point of view, about how she was trying to save the princess from making the biggest mistake of her life by marrying this so called prince charming. I can see their view point on Harry Potter, I just don't agree with it. I've known many ultra chritians, whose children had gotten into far worse things, while their parents were worried about keeping them away from Harry Potter, so I think they worry about the wrong evils.
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@ladygator (3465)
• United States
29 May 12
I think that these are just fictional books and should be treated as such. This particular question on why the princess doesnt fight her battles, is where the story gets a bit of flack. At least as far as I have heard. And then the young girls get the idea that she will have a night in shinning armor to come and save her. Our girls need to understand that is a fairy tale and sounds cute, but is not real life. If they are taught logical thinking from a young age, this wont be a problem for them most likely
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• United States
30 May 12
If they are taught logical thinking , they won't like Any of the fairy tales! It won't matter if the princess fights or doesn't. hey will reject Any fiction.
@ladygator (3465)
• United States
30 May 12
It will take a while to understand the whole logical thinking for some I am sure. I dont think its terrible to like the fairy tales. I just dont think that its a base to live by. And neither will my daughters. The fictional enjoyment of fictional movies is a given for many people as a means of entertainment.
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• United States
30 May 12
But if they are too logical , they will dismiss fairy tales as silly nonsense.
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
29 May 12
Many of the Fairy Tales were written as a protest story or to teach a lesson. For example in Cinderella you could talk to you children about good and evil or justice. What are your children going to think when they watch some of the cartoons that are on TV now. One is about the rain forest and anything that attacks the big tree is bad and everything that lives off the tree is good. Some say the Tree represents the Government and we should all be working for the good of the government. Is that the lesson you want to teach your child? Every story has multiple story lines and make a very good teaching tool. Rather than condemn a story why not spend some time with your children and talk about the lessons of the story.
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• United States
30 May 12
I will never have children Thank G-d! And I wouldn't raise girls! I am just a dinosaur who prefers Snow White as a damsel in distress And in real life I am for men's fights.I just wondered what a feminit would do with the old versions of the fairy tales.
• United States
5 Jun 12
Us Yanks sugar coat Everything!
• United States
5 Jun 12
wow bobmnu, this is fascinating! i have not heard this about fairy tales. although, i now know it about dr. seuss stories! when i was a child i thought i would try to read the original grimm's fairy tales, and boy were they grim! the andersen fairy tales were better, but none of them were fairy tales as americans know them!
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@ShyBear88 (59342)
• Sterling, Virginia
29 May 12
I think a girl should know yes they can take care of themselves they don't need to be saved by a guy on a white horse all of the time. That its okay to be saved by someone else but also its okay to save yourself or save someone else. I think its wonderful to show girls both sides. As they say to ever story there is always another half. People have always told girls just one half of it where there might be many sides to it. Things like Hunger Games and Snow White and Huntsman they excited me to get a new feel and look. Women are just as strong as men are.
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• United States
30 May 12
Call me old fashioned but I always will see men as stronger in some things and women stronger in others.And if women are doing Everything for themselves then why do we need men? So the girls should see Snow White The Huntsman , but not the boys. Or I am correct, if you want to raise a female femist , they should Never read ANy of the old fairy tales!
• United States
31 May 12
As a kid I saw older movies that were for adults and I did get there meanings.I never saw Alice In Wonderland , nor Mary Poppins. I know Snow White and The Huntsman is for teens. I just wondered how many of today's kids will ever know the traditional versions.All of this makes me happy I am not a parent Nor a kid today. I'll stick to my version of Snow White Thank You.
@ShyBear88 (59342)
• Sterling, Virginia
30 May 12
I never said that person can do everything on there own. We all need someone weather its a guy or not because no one person can do everything on there own. I'm not saying that a girly movie is for girls only. Of the age of when most kids watch these movies or read the books they don't interrupted the meaning behind it. Movies are movies and books are books. There a story and to every story there is always more then one view of how things went. These stories are told to help kids go to sleep, and to keep dreaming about things because when you work hard things will get good or work out the way you possibly want them to. A lot of little girls want to be a princes and lot of little boys want to kill a dragon or something. Snow White and the Huntmans isn't for little kids this is an adult movie or teen base movie not its for the little kids that parents normally read these books to and even then if it where the little kids wouldn't give a rats a$$ because they don't understand. If you think back to a lot of movies that you watched as a little kid you wouldn't have never of guessed what the real message was. To me a book is a book period with many many meaning in to which every person will see something different then what the writer is seeing. Nothing wrong with a girl saving the day and nothing wrong with a guy saving a day either. There is no right or wrong. It's just a different view that it is all it is. What a parent choice to read to there kids I double they really think is this to girly or too boy like. I don't even think of that at all. What ever books we have is what we have weather its traditional book or not. My girl is at the age where she don't care what you read to her she'll read and make up her own story. If there is a duck involved she is really happy.
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@PageTurner (2825)
• United States
5 Jun 12
Hello I don't recall ever reading a story to my children without editing it to suit my beliefs as I go along. Sometimes, I also would use the stories as teaching moments. Mostly, I just made up stories for my children. They enjoyed that more and so did I. I do think it prudent to be aware of what stories teach our children, and either to modify them, or not use them at all.
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• United States
5 Jun 12
That is my whole point. If you are raising a feminist daughter then Never read her Snow White Of Cinderella!
• United States
5 Jun 12
Yes, I get your point. I've always gotten it. People don't seem to realize the origins and intent of many of the stories they read their children. Many of them are quite ghastly.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
30 May 12
I am feminists but I all love tradition and fairytales are for young children, as they grow up their learn the difference between fantasy and reality. I don;t mind them.
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@youless (114117)
• Guangzhou, China
29 May 12
I don't think about it so much. But I would read the original version of the fairy tales if I had a daughter. Since I am not a good story teller. So I'd better to tell the stories as well as the books. I can't create one by myself. As the new version of Snow White, I haven't watched it yet. But I appreciate to it since this is a modern time, women are not weak all the time. We can still fight for ourselves. I love China
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• United States
30 May 12
I see it this way. If you want women to fight for themselves , then Never read Any of the fairy tales. Just stick to Graphic Novels. In that genre Women kick a$$!
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
29 May 12
I have a different outlook on fairytales and media in general than I did years ago. It's amazing how things are right in front of our faces and we don't see them until they are pointed out. I took a pop culture class and it was a real eye opener for me. Why didn't I see it before that this Disney was just reinforcing gender roles? I never really thought about it and thought they were just cute stories.
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• United States
30 May 12
All the original fairy tales were written in the 19th century! Of course there would be old fashioned gender roles.
@inertia4 (27978)
• United States
4 Jun 12
I see nothing wrong with fairy tales. But you're right, things have changed. But I still do believe that deep down all the little girls still dream about that prince charming. I think they all have that inside of them. It is fine for them to dream as children. The movies they make now about these old fairy tales are dark. But they are entertaining. And I do agree that more and more women are becoming action heroes. I think if my daughter was still that young she would lie to read those fairy tales. She still has a bit of that left in her.
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• United States
4 Jun 12
Some girls are gay so they dream of Snow White, lol! I agree , the movies made are not for the little darlings. But with all these women warriors I wondered if the old versions of fairy tales were not being read.
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@inertia4 (27978)
• United States
10 Jun 12
I think that some people still read those old time fairy tales to their children. But with all the access the kids have to TV and movies and the internet, they see things totally different then we did at those ages. Most of that old fashioned thinking is going by the way side.
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• United States
30 May 12
I don't know, I guess there are good points to each story. Like you said, if a girl has been brought up to stand up for herself she will know they are just fiction and won't let anyone push her around in the same or similar way. Good news though, in the second Alice in Wonderland, the one with Johnny Depp, I don't know if you saw it but Alice puts on armor, jumps on a horse and slays the Jabberwocky. I don't consider myself a feminist as I like to let a man be a man in the relationship. This doesn't mean I let myself get pushed around I just wouldn't want to ever slay anything and I really and I mean I really, don't like to pump my own gas.
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• United States
30 May 12
I don't know Alice In Wonderland so I didn't see the new version. I am a female male chauvinist. I'm all for a guy to come to the rescue in fairy tales.In real life? If he can't slay a dragon , he can protect me in other ways.
• United States
5 Jun 12
i grew up with these fairy tales and in a very conservative household. my father would not let me join the girl scouts because he was worried i would become what they called back then "a women's libber". however, none of these things squelched a strong will and independent spirit. my husband quotes one of his movies to describe me , stating, "she has known her own mind since she was a child"! so i don't know if those sorts of programming always work, perhaps there are genetic/personality/and temperament factors as well!
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• United States
5 Jun 12
I was a girl scout. My mom wanted me to be . But once when our troop leader asked was our troop only here to earn money to go camping, I thought ah yeah! So your dad had nothing to fear.Like you I have a mind of my own. My dad was very conservative but my mom was a feminist. How did they remained married for 35 years I have no idea. But even though my mom raised me during the teen years alone, I lost my dad when I was 12, I grew up being on the man's side of this battle of the sexes.So girl scouts has Nothing to do with it!
• United States
5 Jun 12
Would you read these stories to your daughter? Your Son? Me? If I had kids I wouldn't read Any of the fairy tales to them. The boys would try to protect his love and these days she would resent it. And the girls would be so bitter that no guys would Want to protect her. why bother!