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myLot reputation of 98/100. Denmarkguy (1467)   ranked 66 out of 5,239 in writing 5 years ago

I write for a living. I am what some people describe as a "Writer for Hire." Other people call that a Technical Writer-- although I hardly fit the conventional image of technical writers, in that there's seldom anything "technical" about what I write. I did start in the field writing software manuals and online help systems, but most of what I do these days ranges from advertising copy, to sales letters, to web content, to newsletters, to metaphysics-- pretty much "soup to nuts."

Many of my "gigs" take place online, through "backdoors" to web sites and company INTRAnets. Whenever I start something new, there are inevitably a slew of instructions on how the writing should come out. Today, I came across the following "instruction:"

Dnt use abbrvs b/c thr 2 diff 4 ppl 2 read.

It reminded me (on some level) of a large number of discussions and comments on myLot. Maybe I am just OLD, but I DO find so-called "txt msg spk" to be really hard to read. Come on, folks-- this is a WEB SITE, not your cell phone!

Am I the only one who feels annoyed by discussions and replies that don't use complete words and sentences? And I'm not talking about non-native English speakers (for whom I make allowances), I'm talking about what's often US residents in college who write in this kind of "shorthand."

What do you think? Does this bother you? Or is it just a "sign of the times?"

 

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1. myLot reputation of 83/100. Monkeymia (161)   5 years ago

I actually don't like the "text talk" as sad as it sounds, it actually takes longer to read and word together than if you wrote it out properly.
Text talk is good for photos but when making a long sentence or post here, use the correct words.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Denmarkguy (1467)   ranked 66 out of 5,239 in writing  5 years ago

It does take longer to read... and whereas I can see how it makes sense if you're stuck somewhere with a 140-character maximum message... it makes NO sense on a web site where you can type out complete sentences.

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2. myLot reputation of 98/100. Wanderlaugh (1103)   ranked 20 out of 5,239 in writing   5 years ago

This is the "new toy" effect. Even allowing for sheer illiteracy, it's virtually compulsory. Peer stuff... there really ought to be a law. It's also a selling point, like "real cool stuff you can download" used to be, years ago, something for the infants.

It's pretty damn boring, too. Who wants to do a spelling lesson while reading? There are enough people on Earth who can't write a post it note, without adding this garbage.

What really bothers me is that it's dangerous. You can't do anything right in txt in business. No contracts are written in it, and no business letters, except perhaps among those who think they'll make an impression. Imagine trying to write a CV in txt.

I hope it will go, eventually. It already feels like centuries.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Denmarkguy (1467)   ranked 66 out of 5,239 in writing  5 years ago

I guess behind my general annoyance at it lies this deeper notion of it being more important to "be cool" than to make sense when you communicate.

I hope it will go away, too-- perhaps as more and more cell phones get full keyboards, and you no longer have to make three different letters from one key.

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3. myLot reputation of 88/100. cjthedog64 (1542)   ranked 1,512 out of 5,239 in writing   5 years ago

This bothers me too. I do think it's a sign of the times, but it won't change. Rather it will become customary to use that sort of spelling. Many schools even teach invented spelling in the early grades to encourage kids to get their points across, rather than worry about spelling. My SD did this and not even she could read her invented spelling! I also read something a while back about high schoolers who were unable to write a basic paragraph because of all the made up spellings. At the time, texting wasn't big yet, so the words were things like "toys r us", "mac n cheese", etc. Now those people are in the workforce, and people are surprised when they can't get a decent job. I'll make sure that my DS knows how to write properly. Yet another reason that I hope to homeschool him.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Denmarkguy (1467)   ranked 66 out of 5,239 in writing  5 years ago

I find it mildly disturbing how schools teach that kind of spelling. I can appreciate the underlying motivation that it's important that someone can "express themselves." That said, the foundation for communication is UNDERSTANDING, not EXPRESSSION. It doesn't matter HOW free you are to express yourself, if nobody understands what you're trying to communicate.


myLot reputation of 80/100. maildumpster (1825)   ranked 3,482 out of 5,239 in writing  5 years ago

Good luck homeschooling. I pulled my kids from PS because they just weren't getting a good education.


Weldon2 (17)   ranked 3,513 out of 5,239 in writing  5 years ago

I use homeschooling to augment the public school due to restrictive laws here they make homeschooling difficult.But I do think the school system is deliberately dumbing down our kids

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4. myLot reputation of 96/100. pebbles_cubbie (2130)   ranked 1,799 out of 5,239 in writing   5 years ago

i don't use txt spk on mylot only in a messenger. i think txt spk is bad for your discussions or responses because the rating will go down if someone doesn't understand what you're talking about. i always use complete words. it's much more appropriate. sometimes i don't understand some txt spk. it doesn't really bother me at all. i just don't think it's appropriate here.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Denmarkguy (1467)   ranked 66 out of 5,239 in writing  5 years ago

You make a really important point here-- that it's not even so much about USING txt spk, but about knowing when it is APPROPRIATE and when it's not.

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5. myLot reputation of 95/100. dancia2007 (318)   ranked 1,782 out of 5,239 in writing   5 years ago

I don't come across chatspeak too often, and when I chat I spell out most things.... usually only abbreviating for LOL. When I see chatspeak where it doesn't belong... it makes me question the person's intelligence a bit.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Denmarkguy (1467)   ranked 66 out of 5,239 in writing  5 years ago

Same here. I have to really "try" to keep an open mind about someone who reponds that way to statements in what is CLEARLY a writing forum.

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6. JWREDBUD (23)   ranked 3,217 out of 5,239 in writing   5 years ago

Our society is getting lazier every day and I can only imagine it will get worse.

I hate text messaging.

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7. myLot reputation of 98/100. beaniefanatic13 (2154)   ranked 1,678 out of 5,239 in writing   5 years ago

Well I avoid most of those discussions as I'm not here to decipher the discussions just so I can respond to them. I think that it shows a lack of respect and by that I mean that most people over the age of say 35 I imagine don't know what all the abbreviations are for, I know that I don't. The only one that I use here and see many people using it is LOL (laugh out loud) even that I have seen 2 discussions started asking what that means. :) I also do the smiley. Other than that I have no idea what most of it means. Nor do I want to. After looking at " Dnt use abbrvs b/c thr 2 diff 4 ppl 2 read." for several minutes I figured it out.

So yes it bothers me, and yes unfortunately I think it's a sign of the times.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Denmarkguy (1467)   ranked 66 out of 5,239 in writing  5 years ago

I sat here and pondered your "sign of the times" comment... and whereas I do agree, something else occurred to me:

It may be a sign of the times, but it's really also a sign of poorly thought out technology. Yes, it's a cool feature that you can use a numeric keypad to generate text... but the fact that it requires multiple keystrokes to generate a single character is actually a HURDLE to communications as much as it is a HELP. The thing I end up wondering about is whether "text compression" is now such a part of life that it will make no difference that more and more phones/PDAs, etc. have full alphanumeric keypads? And how will voice recognition text display? If I say the word "before," will it type "before" or "b4?"

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8. ieatwhatiwant (15)   ranked 3,512 out of 5,239 in writing   5 years ago

Here in our country, at least, "text speak" is not allowed in forums. The moderators are always monitoring the forums. They would call your attention whenever they think that you violated one of the rules. And i have also observed that people who are younger than me, have their own style or version of the "text speak". The spelling of the word and even the context is kind of different from the usual. I am not bothered by it.

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9. myLot reputation of 89/100. callarse1 (3214)   ranked 1,502 out of 5,239 in writing   5 years ago

I do not use text speak, but then again I am not saying that I don't like it. I find that it is easy to read and that is how some people are writing. I believe it is saying that the English spelling is a bit complex and that it needs to be updated (b/c u can spel so mani words diffrently: just an example I thought up). It doesn't bother me, but it may be bother teachers if they get papers with this kind of abbreviation. Personally I wouldn't use text speak myself, but I understand because it is faster for the person to use. Have a nice day.

Pablo


myLot reputation of 98/100. Denmarkguy (1467)   ranked 66 out of 5,239 in writing  5 years ago

Pablo, you make a good point. Even the people at Webster's (dictionaries) go on the saying that "spelling depends on common usage." That's how language grows and evolves.

I know that some countries HAVE attempted to go to "phonetic spelling," but unless I'm mistaken such efforts have generally met with failure. In Norway they actually have a "dual" system of "traditional" Norwegian, and "new" Norwegian, both of which are considered "correct" in daily usage. However, I believe that such things as legal contracts, and commercial papers, and banking documents are STILL written in "traditional" language... simply because new variations on language almost ALWAYS are a "simplification," of predecessors... meaning that you end up with a "loss of accuracy."

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10. myLot reputation of 96/100. lecanis (7304)   ranked 21 out of 5,239 in writing   5 years ago

It drives me nuts! I know I'm not the most eloquent person in the world, but I do at least put in the effort to write real words. I expect others to do the same. Like you, I agree that allowances must be made for non-native English speakers, but they aren't the ones generally typing this way.

It's a major pet peeve of mine, though I have been known to use smileys. They don't detract from the ability to understand what I'm saying though, so I think that's a different issue.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Denmarkguy (1467)   ranked 66 out of 5,239 in writing  5 years ago

I agree.

I'm willing to concede that the point of communication is to... basically... be understood. And I think that's my beef with this. Half the time, it's NOT understood, and it's filled with ambiguities because users (or user GROUPS) actually create their own "versions" that are unique to their group or clique. Sure, I'll be the first to admit that it was once "really cool" to belong to a group with it's own "secret lingo," it becomes a bit of a problem when it spills over and results in a reduced ability to communicate with the world around you.


myLot reputation of 96/100. lecanis (7304)   ranked 21 out of 5,239 in writing  5 years ago

I agree with you on the different versions of text speak making it hard to understand. When I've seen ten different people write the same sentence ten different ways, I'd just rather not deal with it at all. It's just so inconsistent, and it doesn't really help get the point across.

One of the things that horrified me a couple of years back is that I was talking to my father online, and he started using this kind of speak. At the time, I referred to it as "net speak", and I couldn't believe that he was using it. This is the same man who used to make me read dictionaries and regrade my papers because the teachers were "too easy on me". It totally messed up my worldview.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Denmarkguy (1467)   ranked 66 out of 5,239 in writing  5 years ago

Funny!

You think you get past the point when your parents are an embarrassment because they do things that are so OLD... and then they go on to embarrass you by being OLD and doing things that belong with teenagers....

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