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myLot reputation of 89/100. hockeygal4ever (5360)   ranked 108 out of 1,741 in news 5 years ago

News is that someone stole 2 paintings out of a family member of Picasso's home. The 2 paintings were valued around $66 million but the question is, why would you even bother to steal something so obviously noticable? Not like you can drop it off for a high priced auction and unless the only people you ever deal with are complete derelicts or total underground types if you hang it in your house someone is going to notice! DUH!

So can you seriously think of any reason to steal these paintings and what you would do with them?

 

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huggiebear22 (1293) response was accepted on 3/27/2007.
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1. myLot reputation of 97/100. danishcanadian (24610)   ranked 71 out of 1,741 in news   5 years ago

Some people will do just about anything for attention. I wondered about this myself, when I heard the story on the news. You make a good point about it being noticed. I guess some people are stupid, and just want to say they've done it, not giving a darn about the consequences.


myLot reputation of 89/100. hockeygal4ever (5360)   ranked 108 out of 1,741 in news  5 years ago

Yeah.. I mean even if they can sell it underground.. the chances of being caught have to be HUGE and then, if they can't sell it right away... how long before they could sell it ... hundreds of years! LOL Talk about leaving a windfall for your next generations?

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2. myLot reputation of 63/100. Ciniful (1139)   ranked 255 out of 1,741 in news   5 years ago

Throughout history, works of art have been stolen and sold underground ... through black market dealers. You're right, taking it to the local pawn shop is out of the question, but why would they need to, when they can sell it underground for half the value? It might be a huge decrease to the value of the painting, but what WOULDN'T the average person do for 33 million dollars?


myLot reputation of 89/100. hockeygal4ever (5360)   ranked 108 out of 1,741 in news  5 years ago

I understand that but I still am clueless as to HOW or WHY anyone else would buy it. Okay, you get it on the black market for half the value. So what? What are you going to do with it? If you're that rich, unless you put it in a locked room to adore by yourself, it's probably going to be seen by other rich people who will KNOW it's a Picasso. I guess you could say it's a "fake" but if you're rich enough to buy it on the black market people are going to know it's probably not a fake and figure that one out since they know what was stolen.

I honestly have always wondered why you would EVER steal things that are sooooo obvious as to be stolen.

If you steal a car, you can cut it up and reuse or whatever. But a Picasso that the world knows.... so what can u even do with it?


myLot reputation of 63/100. Ciniful (1139)   ranked 255 out of 1,741 in news  5 years ago

It's the status in owning it, for those who can afford it. It's bought underground for the same reasons that people buy ferrari's when a honda will get them where they need to go. Status symbols and the self enjoyment of owning something that rare or expensive. And of course they'd show it, it would be on display as the rich keep their works on display now. How many are going to walk into their living rooms and demand certification to prove authenticity?


myLot reputation of 89/100. hockeygal4ever (5360)   ranked 108 out of 1,741 in news  5 years ago

LOL.. you haven't met some of the rich folk I've dealt with! I'm telling you... the first thing they'd do is get out their magnifying glass and start investigating for the authenticity!!!!!

I guess if you're low enough to buy on the black market and egotistical enough to want a painting because it's so valuable and not really because of the truth of the matter of art, then you probably don't really have friends that are real "church goers" and "saints" eh? Guess you do have a point there!

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3. myLot reputation of 60/100. urbangirl (978)   ranked 633 out of 1,741 in news   5 years ago

Well, if it were me I would hide them away for years and then maybe hang one of them up in my lounge room casually. I would only make sure to invite my non art-literate friends around. If I got caught I would say I had bought it from a market and (naturally) assumed it was a fake?! As long as the other painting couldn't be traced back to me, I guess I would get away with it (yeah right). Anyway, the thought of having a REAL Picasso hanging up on my wall while others assumed it was a fake would be enough for me.


myLot reputation of 89/100. hockeygal4ever (5360)   ranked 108 out of 1,741 in news  5 years ago

LOL... I'd get excited to be able to afford the fake version!

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4. myLot reputation of 98/100. emeraldisle (8959)   5 years ago

They were probably stolen by professionals who have a buyer already for them. Someone who will put them in a private vault so they can know they have them but not share with anyone else. Personally I can't see the reason for it but for some I guess it is a thrill. If it wasn't by professionals then they probably didn't realize what they were taking, which I seriously doubt.


myLot reputation of 89/100. hockeygal4ever (5360)   ranked 108 out of 1,741 in news  5 years ago

I'm pretty sure they knew because it's known to be Picasso's grand daughter's house I guess. I think that's what they said. But the weird part is.. why would you spend that kind of money on something to not even be able to enjoy? If you are a huge art fan... you'd want to see it and admire it and share it with your friends. LOL Seems silly to me. Then again I don't have millions to toss away either... so perhaps I just don't understand because of that?


myLot reputation of 81/100. Idlewild (4769)   ranked 73 out of 1,741 in news  5 years ago

Maybe they do already have a buyer for the paintings, or know of people who would buy it an keep in their own private vault and admire it all to themselves. There are collectors of all kinds of things who buy rare items but never take them out of the wrapper or container, because it would decrease their value. I don't understand how you can 'enjoy' something if it's covered in its container the whole time, but I guess that's why I'm not a die hard collector of anything.


myLot reputation of 89/100. hockeygal4ever (5360)   ranked 108 out of 1,741 in news  5 years ago

OMG... now we're talking about my gram! LOL She used to have a CLOSET FULL of new dresses and things that she was "saving" because they were "too nice to use". LOL

I would get so upset every time I went to see her because things I'd get her for gifts would hang in the closet forever and yup, when she died the ol witch that moved right in with my gramps tossed it all away anyways!

I've always wondered why you buy or have things NOT to use. Seems senseless to me too!

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5. myLot reputation of 99/100. gbala9 (1303)   5 years ago

You underestimate the sense of possession a collector feels to just own something. Even a simple hobby can go horribly wrong if you become a compulsive collector. None of the stolen artworks and antiques can be sold in an open market or auction houses, yet a collector who wants to own it will be willing to pay for a piece they feel is missing from their collection or a piece they'd like to own.

They know they can never display it to the world, still the sense of ownership and possession is all that they desire. It is just like a heady addiction, a drug they carve for. If you think the person who stole it is crazy think again, it is someone who knows who wants to own that piece so badly, it is someone for whom a fraction of the valued price will make a difference and it is someone smart enough to know the buyer will never unmask them.

Right now the underground circuit will be abuzz with when it will come for trade and you bet someone is going to be real happy with it, and someone is going to be real rich with it.


myLot reputation of 60/100. urbangirl (978)   ranked 633 out of 1,741 in news  5 years ago

But wouldn't people who already have collections be under immediate suspicion?

Anyway, I understand this "need" for things.


myLot reputation of 89/100. hockeygal4ever (5360)   ranked 108 out of 1,741 in news  5 years ago

I think what I can't fathom though is that it's going "underground" for sale.. okay.. understand that.. but is there really NOBODY that gets told of this who goes to the authorities and lets them in on it?

I guess I'm too freaking honest to comprehend? LOL I dunno.

But I do understand the compulsion thing. So that would have some bearing on it all.

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6. myLot reputation of 90/100. kbkbooks (2253)   ranked 96 out of 1,741 in news   5 years ago

Well, gee, maybe it seemed like a good idea at the time?? DUH.


myLot reputation of 89/100. hockeygal4ever (5360)   ranked 108 out of 1,741 in news  5 years ago

LOL... exactly.
I'm not quite getting it either. Guess that's why I didn't steal it and you weren't my assistant?

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7. myLot reputation of 82/100. maddy37 (4288)   5 years ago

There are members of our society who with great art to look at day after day getting a high and forgive me but get turned on Most of us donot see it but there are out there
so they have these paintings in a hidden secret room and when the mood needs it they wandered to the room and sit there in awe and unbelief they have these treasures to gaze at ...........or they have these paintings hoping to sell them on the black market and trust me they will line up to buy these masterpieces and wonot give one thought to that fact that they are involved in illegal transactions Sorry i am not not of that persuasion or a member of knob hill to get into that scenario Happy Trails and May everyone of your wishes come true


myLot reputation of 89/100. hockeygal4ever (5360)   ranked 108 out of 1,741 in news  5 years ago

I have to admit Maddy.. it's not really a "hob knob" thing as much as a frame of mind I think. I can honestly say.. I'm FAR FAR FAR from rich.. lol... but I LOVE and adore art.. even some of the most strange and odd art around and I tend to be able to see artistic value in most anything.

I personally love Picasso and I think I have a way of perhaps warping my own mind into seeing what he was hoping we'd see or maybe I just don't care if I see what others see or what the artist WANTS me to see and enjoy seeing it all on my own viewpoint? LOL

But anyways... I see what you mean. I understand that there are those out there who are fanatical for sure and this is a real high to get. I would love to be able to just see it and knowing what they symbolized it really saddened me that his family lost it.

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8. myLot reputation of 97/100. retardedrugrat (3665)   ranked 537 out of 1,741 in news   5 years ago

I think the underground market for these kind of paintings is HUGE because they're so rare and vaulable.

I know it sounds cliche, but a lot of times, these paintings go to people like the Mafia, and they're always in demand.

I was told this once by a friend who has Mafia connections, although I haven't spoken to her in months.


myLot reputation of 89/100. hockeygal4ever (5360)   ranked 108 out of 1,741 in news  5 years ago

Were you talking to my cousin Vinnie's wife? LOL
Just kidding.

I guess there is always someone out there willing to buy it no matter what. I just can't imagine it myself. I can't imagine that they don't have even ONE friend with some morals that would go "Hey... you know Guido has the real picasso?" and turn them in!!!! I mean, not EVERYONE they mingle with can be "bad" can they?

I just can't grasp it all I guess!!!!! I mean I understand that they obviuosly are out there because this is not the first nor the last expensive item to be hoisted for sure!

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9. myLot reputation of 94/100. tarsadawn (263)   ranked 121 out of 1,741 in news   5 years ago

I thought the same thing. No respectable buyer is going to want to even touch them because they're STOLEN. And, even if they could find someone to take them, they're definitely not getting $66 million for them. They'll be caught soon enough. Not too long ago, Munch's the Scream was stolen from Norway, it was found...Picasso's will be found too.


myLot reputation of 89/100. hockeygal4ever (5360)   ranked 108 out of 1,741 in news  5 years ago

I'm anxious myself to see if they get caught quickly. If you're ballsy enough to do it, how tight are you gonna sit with this thing? It's obviously calling out to you for the money!

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10. myLot reputation of 73/100. gbspew (419)   5 years ago

There's a black market. It can be trade for much more than 66 milion dollars because there are so many collectors who don't know what to do with their money.

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