My husband was told that unless they get new contracts that he will be laid off

@writersedge (22563)
United States
November 17, 2009 7:30am CST
on February 26, 2010. That was good of the company to let him know. So many are just locking the door when the employees show up they find out when they can't get in. We're hoping there are more contracts.But if not, thank goodness for unemployment. A place that once employed over a thousand employees will be down to 61 when they let him go (he's employee #61) because they're going to let a few go at a time by reverse senority (whoever was hired first will be let go last). Some have January end dates, some have December end dates, etc. But they told temps they would be let go in August and they were there until October. He's been applying for other jobs within the company because they are hiring in a different building, but not very many people. They've been told, when they get new contracts, they will be hired back by senority. My husband has been there over 10 years and was hired during the company's third year here. So have you been laid off? Have you gotten back to work? Found a new job? Were you at your job a long time? Have you learned anything or feel like you need to learn anything? I was on unemployment and it drove me crazy, how about you?
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@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
17 Nov 09
my hubby was laid off in august and so its a bit of a tough time. i am working but only part time. he is getting unemployment and doing some work on the side so christmas will be a little tough this year. he is still looking but it seems jobs are hard to come by these days.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
17 Nov 09
Yes, jobs are very hard to come by. I hope he's able to get a job. They have extended unemployment benefits many times. What they need to do is find a way to employ us all.
• United States
17 Nov 09
yeah we hear you on the job thing. I never thought that it would get so bad. alot of us is prayer and hanging in there. hopefully it will get better soon. Just hanging in there.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
17 Nov 09
Yes, it's scary, no job is secure even after 10,20, or even 30 years now. Keep hanging in there. Take care
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@carolbee (16230)
• United States
17 Nov 09
Ouch, I am sorry. Seems as though laying employees off is the latest craze. Our part of the midwest has been doing the same thing. Eliminating so many jobs and so many out of work. I have never been laid off or fired although it's been a few years since I worked full time. Don't need the medical insurance since it's through my husband's job. Am retired now and really enjoying the lack of commitment on the job. I pretty much did fun jobs that were no brainers. Didn't need to work but liked the adult, human interaction and needed it to be happy and feel somewhat successful.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
17 Nov 09
Must last week, Pfizer announced it will be selling 2 out of 3 research facilities up here and now this. You're 63 and with health problems, I consider you retired to taking care of the grandkids.
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@ladym33 (10979)
• United States
18 Nov 09
We are in the same boat there is a good chance that my husband will get laid off on December 9th we are just waiting to find out. We only learned of this possible lay off last Friday though, so it is not giving us a whole lot of time to prepare. If I had known soon I would have started cutting back sooner. I have started yelling at the kids more about leaving on lights and making sure they use towels more than once so I only do one load of towels a week and not two. My husband has been laid off twice before since we have been married. But we have been married for 20 years so that is not so bad. He did do a lot of studying last time he was laid off he is in computers so it is important to keep up with the technology. Luckily he got a job right around the 3 month point, but the economy was better at that time. I am more scared about this time. We do have some money in the bank but our furnace is really old and our furnace guy told us we were lucky to make it through last year (he is a friend so he is honest with us and not out to make money from us). I just know if he loses his job the furnace will go out because usually when it rains it pours. I own a small business that I run out of my house but lately sales have been terrible, so I can't even help that much. Last time he got laid off my earnings helped us to live off of the unemployment and my earnings without having to dig in to savings to live, but my earnings now won't help that much, at least unemployment is more now and cobra is not as expensive as it was back then.
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
18 Nov 09
Thanks, I hope the company he works for gets more contracts, too. I don't know what your business is. The herb company I work for has changed from years ago and started making stuff people really need, like door draft stoppers and window draft stoppers, and neck warmers, etc. Is there any way your business can be changed a little to go with the times? Like she has lavendar pillows and balsom pillows, now she has that in draft stoppers and rice in neck warmers to zap in microwaves. Another friend switched from typing to resume creations and others are being trained for medical transcription. I'm sure you've probably thought of ways to change or modify your business to go with the times if possible. But just in case. You said sales. Can what you're selling be changed to go with the needs of people now? Oh yes, I went through savings last year like nobody's business. I'm pretty much out of savings now. I wish you luck. I was listening to Public Radio the other day. This 14 yr old in Africa wanted to run his radio, so he made a way to run it with a battery, converter and his bike. Then he went to the library and learned about windmills. He built a wind mill from all junk. He used it to pump water for irregation and to charge the batteries his friends had. Not sure where I'm going with this, but . . .. I'm tired and I think I need to go to bed. At any rate, you two sound very intelligent and level-headed, I'm sure you will figure something out.
@ladym33 (10979)
• United States
18 Nov 09
I hope your husband's work gets more contracts.
@celticeagle (160064)
• Boise, Idaho
18 Nov 09
I no longer work but when I did I did retail support for Hewlett Packard. It would start out as a call from a retail agent in a store or from a customer of the same. We would determine what was needed and then go the extra mile to help and get them satisfied and on their way. Sometimes it was as easy as ordering a certain item that didn't come in a customers computer, printer or what have you. Then there are the more complex calls where the little ole lady doesn't know anything about the computer, doesn't speak very good english and we have to determine what the woman needs and get her where she needs to go. We get as much information as possible connect them to a technician or order something for her or tell her she has to go back through the store. It could become more complicated as different stores had different guidlines and in store rules and things we all had to memorize and remember when dealing with them. It could be very complicated or very easily taken care of. That was my job for five years. About the time it was understood the rules would change. You get the idea. Stressful.
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
18 Nov 09
Yes, it does sound stressful and for 5 years, wow.
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@celticeagle (160064)
• Boise, Idaho
18 Nov 09
Oh, it was and things kept changing and we kept getting more responsibility. Ugh!
@benny128 (3615)
18 Nov 09
I personally have never been laid off so to speak I have left jobs as I didnt like the direction some companies were moving towards. Now I work for myself which is fab, but people do complain about being laid off the companies that are laying people off are only doing so to safe guard their business and other jobs, its unfortunate for the people that do loose their jobs but companies are in existance to make money and unfortunatly the easiest way to save money and the biggest expense of any company is the employee's at least they gave you warning and didnt just lock the doors.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
18 Nov 09
I know. I understand this. They are saying once they have more contracts, they'll hire him back. Months ahead warning is unusual and we appreciate it. We know the economics of the situation. We're just concerned that there are so many hundreds of others being laid off that he won't find a job and unemployment could run out. The usual concerns, our financial future that people who get laid off have.
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
18 Nov 09
Maybe reading others' responces will help you see why I wrote this a little more clearly.
@cutepenguin (6431)
• Canada
17 Nov 09
oh. Well, it is good of the company to give so much notice. This is very hard though - it feels like we are surrounded by layoffs. I'm self-employed, and I haven't had any decrease in business. My husband works in a field where they are still hiring, so we are lucky. But I've had several friends get layed off in the last year, and it's tough.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
18 Nov 09
You two are in deed very lucky. I hope your luck continues to hold. Thanks for dropping by and take care.
• India
18 Nov 09
*sigh*…I really don’t know when this saga will end or how! No, I’ve not been laid till now but even then I have been scouring the markets for options but its worse out there…I can get employment but at half of what I am getting right now! Just this Monday, a colleague was laid off for the same reason as your husband’s and we’re passing each day in fear of something happening. My husband’s not in a good position either…he keeps saying that he doesn’t know when his present company might shut down or whatever and the problem’s the same. There’s employment but the pay is paltry and job profile is so demeaning to people like us, who’ve given our best to our companies for more than 10yrs!
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
18 Nov 09
Yes, I think this is a scary time. They keep extending unemployment, but new jobs aren't being made so people can get back to work. No end in sight and what will we do?
• Philippines
18 Nov 09
i haven't been laid off, it's just that i made this foolish decision to resign from my job and then i ended up a bum for almost 8 months up to now. :) and i haven't applied for another job yet, maybe next year or so. and you know what, during those 7 months, i just felt this self pity. but eventually, i got hold back of myself again, and recently, i just got out of this self pity state and right now, i'm just enjoying every minute of being jobless. :D i was also part of that company for almost 7 years so i really got depressed when i resigned and got stuck at home for months. but the reason i resigned, just simply being bored from same boring job 5 days a week. that moment (the resignation part) became a turning point of my life. yeah being jobless makes everyone crazy, to the point of being depressed most of the time. but now, i can finally say that i've moved on. the only regret that i'm feeling right now is that i should have resigned if i'm sure that i'll get another work the next day after my resignation. in that way, i won't feel so useless and i wouldn't ended up being bum.
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
18 Nov 09
You have learned much. 1. Loosing a job is like being in a state of mourning. There are stages of mourning that they outlined in a newspaper article last year. So now you have gone through the stages of mourning and are better! 2. You learned to have another job lined up before you leave one. These things you can use to help others. I will need to be patient with my husband and remember all the stags of mourning. Thanks for the reminder. Maybe reading other parts of this post will make you feel better and maybe it will not. Take care and thanks.
@lindiebiz (1006)
• Canada
18 Nov 09
That company must be very good to let your husband know early enough if he would be loosing his job. I have been looking for a job for about 3 months and have not been able to get on. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
18 Nov 09
Yes, I think my husband's company is very special. They have had picnic and Christmas parties for employees. When my husband was very ill, they helped him get disability and took him back which they didn't have to do. They provide days off based on longivity and do not make you state why you took them off or make some days vacation, some days sick, etc. You get 2 weeks, if you have to take them for medical, it's none of their business, just tell them 24 hrs in advance. With my husband's medical problems, this has been really, really nice. They're saying that as soon as they get new contracts, that they will put people back on. I hope you're able to get a job very soon. They say things are picking up, I hope things trickle down to us regular people. Thanks and take care.
@rg0205 (2636)
• Hong Kong
18 Nov 09
Not having anything to do will drive me mad. I need to be busy. I feel quite useless when I'm not working. It's good that your husband's company was kind enough to inform their employees about the situation so people can be prepared. So many companies just dump their employees without warning. I haven't been laid off. I'm still working with the same company for the last couple of years and I have a contract. I am, however, quite fed up because of all the politics and greed that goes on in large companies. It's just something I feel like I'm growing tired of. I'm just 23 and yet I feel drained with it so that puts the question whether this is something I can see myself doing long term.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
18 Nov 09
Just be careful and read # 15 before you do anything rash. Yes, it was nice of them. We had a couple of companies just lock doors and put a note on the door like "Out of Business." I've known people who have worked somewhere long enough to run competition for the big boys or do consulting or part of the job as their own business and not have to be in that mess, but that takes time and patience. There are creating your own work books out there, but most of them say try part-time to see if something will run first.
@getbrowser (1708)
• China
17 Nov 09
jobless - For the financial crisis, more and more are becoming jobless now. For these jobless people, before they have been ready to find a better job, to return to further education may be a wiser choice.
With the spump of the economics all over the world, I have to say that there are many people who are suffering such a bad situation. For the financial crisis, more and more are becoming jobless now. Although there is no great stigma associated with being laid off, most people want to hunt for a better job again. However, for keen competition, it is next to impossible for jobless people to find an approproate job. In my eyes, for these jobless people, before they have been ready to find a better job, to return to further education may be a wiser choice. You see, if they try to hunt for a job straightly after being laid off, for the keen competition, it is difficult to find a proper job indeed.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
18 Nov 09
My husband may have the opportunity for training, we shall see. If he is offered training, he will probably take some. It depends on what they're offering. When I have lost my job, I have not been offered training because I have a Master's Degree and am considered overtrained for some jobs now.
@seomas (22)
• Malaysia
17 Nov 09
its a scary story to hear so many have been unemploy, i watch cnn they told about 10 percent from USA is unemployed this is true? have this got something to do with the lack of how obama run the companies? just a conclusion no hard feelings
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
17 Nov 09
No, it has to do with greedy people that were running companies way before Obama got in. Banks and realtors were selling to people who couldn't pay them back or talking people into more expensive homes and land than they could afford. Also credit card companies letting people charge more and more until they couldn't pay. People have been loosing their homes and jobs for a long, long time. The jobs more because of the free trade act that has been around for many, many years. OUr jobs went to other countries and no tarrifs to make it so the things from other countries cost more so we could stay employed. It used to be that tarrifs were put into place so it would be the same amount or more to buy outside the country. But now with people loosing their jobs, they can't pay for things, so it goes around and around. Yes, 10% is sadly true. When I went to buy a home, I had to fight with the realtor and the banks because they wanted me to buy a very expensive home. I wanted to buy one that wasn't as expensive. This was in 1998. I lost a good job and have had jobs that don't pay as much ever since. I am able to keep my home. But if I had listened to the bank and realtor,I would have lost my home by now. But my credit cards are high now. So many people did not pay them back that it is getting expensive to pay them off. They have huge percentages on them now. There used to be laws against usurious (too high) percentage loans, but I guess they don't apply to credit cards. So you see, we have many problems now. Laisez-faire economics where some businesses are not watched very closely can cause problems. At the end of when Bush was in, this was discovered and he tried to stop it and now Obama is trying to stop it. But too many mistakes and not changing the laws back to protect our people make it too little, too late. That's my version of it, but if you were to ask 100 Americans, you would get 100 versions.
18 Nov 09
Another thing. If the day comes and goes and he is still employed, but they then later lay him off and don't give notice, the timer resets for the WARN law. He will have to have 60 days warning again prior to getting laid off. Period!
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
18 Nov 09
What are you talking about? They just put chains on doors and put out of business on them. Notice given to employees in most places is a courtesy.
@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
17 Nov 09
Yes...I have been pretty emotional, and uninvolved here, as for the first time in 17 years, I am facing the loss of one of my most supportive contracts! NEW Board of Directors, and they have put the contract out for bids! Lots of bidders, and whoknows! It really has me disconnected, as living on a small Island, due to the recession..very little going on! NO tiling...Winter, no landscaping, so if I don't get the bid..it will mean that I will have to go OFF Island for work...a pretty huge disruption in my life. Self employed..NO unemployment Insurance. Could be a rough time! I'll muddle thru somehow...but disconcerting! Cheers!
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
17 Nov 09
Pergammano, I didn't know. I hope you get the contract. Yes, if you're self-employed, you can't get unemployment here either. Yes, you will have to go far if you don't get it. No wonder you're having difficulty concentrating. Good luck no matter what way it goes.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
17 Nov 09
I haven't had a job for two - three years but not because of being laid off. I quit my job. I am finally getting another one, but I can't say I was trying hard to get a job. For awhile I was just having too much fun being unemployed. Of course I had no bills so it didn't matter. Now though My husband and I are getting ready for our future by planning on buying a car soon, also insurance for both the car and us (health)... and of course a house to follow suit, so I am glad to be getting a job. However, I know so many are being laid off but I wasn't aware so many weren't given notice. You would think that to be illegal, though I know tough times cause for drastic measures, I wouldn't think it'd be too drastic to let the employees know so they can seek new employment... Glad your hubby was told, though hasn't he known for some time?
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
18 Nov 09
No, he was told a couple days ago, but Feb. 2010 will be some time by then.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
3 Dec 09
Thank you, I hope that you are able to get back into the work force. Thanks and take care.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
2 Dec 09
Oh well then I must have read another person's discussion. It's sad that so many people are being laid off, yes February 2010 will be some time. I hope that he finds a new job very soon!
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