Where were the parents, or the assigned chaperone?

@GardenGerty (169477)
United States
May 6, 2011 10:18pm CST
Today, at a zoo about an hour from where I live, a seven year old was mauled by an Amur leopard. He was on a school field trip. He, and a friend, went around or over the outside barrier, and he put his face and hands on the fence, peering in to look at the leopard's cub. She grabbed him and began to maul him. Other students saw the mauling and are traumatized, two adults kicked at the leopard til she released the boy. All I have heard about the adults responsible for this boy were "they did not see the boys leave the group". My experience with this zoo is that they require a certain number of children to adults. My experience with field trips, as a parent, then as a school employee, is that the children are more unpredictable when away from school and they are MY responsibility, I had better keep an eye on them. The boy will survive. The leopard will be put back on exhibit next week. This behavior is normal predatory behavior especially when a cub is involved. I want to hear more about the adult who did not keep an eye on this child.
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@allknowing (153530)
• India
7 May 11
I always have a party for orphans every Christmas and this time I decided to take them to a beach resort and give them a grand time. They were 90 of them and the nun who accompanied them had 90 pairs of eyes so to say, monitoring the activity of every single child there who were having a time of their life wading, and having fun. Supervision is an art and all are not cut up for this kind of work. I admired this nun as there were some bold ones who were trying to go beyond what was prescribed but she knew exactly when this was going to happen and she stopped it. Today's children need to be monitored and perhaps this did not happen the way it should have at the place you mentioned.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
7 May 11
Very generous of you to have this party. I would love this and think it would be fun to participate. I am impressed that one nun could watch ninety kids.
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@allknowing (153530)
• India
7 May 11
This is a routine with me every year but this time I took them to the Beach. Here is a video clip a small part of the do. You will see the nun there.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KozQJgbqhNQ.
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• United States
7 May 11
Hi GG True about the certain number of adults per children and if not enough the trips are no goes. Sure we cannot watch the kids every second of the day but during a field trip they have to be like hawks. It is not for the chaperones to enjoy, although they can along with the kids their priority is to keep a strict on the children that are assigned to them. As the parent of the child you best believe I would want a full proof investigation of the entire event. I would want to know if it was absolute neglect because that being the case I would want some drastic changes, so that no other child is put at risk. Now here at our zoos in IL they have a double kind of barricade which is several inches away from the actual cage so that prevents such type of events happening here. We also have zoo keepers who walk around to make sure no one crosses the barricades.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
7 May 11
That is just it, there is a double barricade. Usually a fence, curved back out so it is hard to get over. There are zoo keepers who patrol both in carts and on foot. It is just too hard to be everywhere. I just know how I would have been if I was watching a bunch of kids.
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• United States
7 May 11
Wow then that makes it even scarier as to where was the chaperone.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
8 May 11
A double barricade? Those kids had to be determined.
@JoyfulOne (6231)
• United States
7 May 11
I hadn't heard about this. How terrible for that little boy! I'm sure every child watching will be having nightmares about it for a long time. Yes, I'd be wondering who wasn't doing their job watching too. I'm just speechless at the horror of it. Will have to watch the news tomorrow and see if they have any updates on it.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
7 May 11
This was in Kansas, Wichita, to be exact. Yes, they interviewed a little girl who says she is 'nervous to go back' and many parents are saying that they plan to go on the field trips with their children.
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@ladygator (3465)
• United States
7 May 11
Oh my that is a terrible situation!!! I am sure the school did their best to keep track of him. At least I really hope they did!! This is a pretty young kid and some are wanders. They should have known this child enough to know he might sneak off like this and kept a better eye on him. I am glad he will heal physically. Emotionally I am sure it will take more time.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
7 May 11
I have not heard on the news the exact details of who was supposed to watch him. I heard it was a parent, not sure if it was his parent. He and a friend left whatever adult they were with and did this. Other kids saw it happen and they are all pretty well shook up. I am sure he will carry this with him a long time.
@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
7 May 11
Yeah. I think they did not have the required supervision for this to happen. I wander where the person was who was to be responsible also but alot of times, groups are understaffed and it just cannot be helped unless they just go ahead and cancel the trip.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
7 May 11
That is what I am wondering? I know I heard he was with a parent, whether it was his or not, I do not know. When I was a bus driver I often went on activities as an extra set of eyes and hands, and it helped.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
7 May 11
hi GardenGerty how awful but I am glad the boy will survive. That chaperone or parent should not be allowed to do this again as that was pure stupidity.If I were to chaperone children on a field trip I would ask for several more parents as a large group of kids 'on a field trip can be most unpredictable. someone has to watch tghem all all the time specially in a zoo with wild animals who are predators The leopard was just acting like it should.the person or persons responsible should have been alert and on watch and on guard at all times.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
7 May 11
Usually there are four kids with a parent or teacher, sometimes six kids. The zoo tends to request more adults with younger kids. I understand this was a parent.
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@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
22 May 11
Firstly, I agree there needs to be supervision... let me get that straight off the get-go. However, looking at it from a different angle, there should be NO WAY a child should be able to go over, around, under, through, ... a barrier to even get close enough to any predatory animal. When it comes to children it rarely happens that they are mauled (they are not seen as a threat) and when it is a female there are cases where the animal has actually nurtured the child. When cubs are involved... different story. Thanks Zelo
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
23 May 11
He was trying to pet the cub. Most of our large cats at that zoo are basically behind elephant proof glass. This one was in a separate exhibit that showed off some of her natural habitat. I could not have gotten across the barrier that was there, but children, as someone has said, are slippery. This topic has actually had me thinking about another one, and I may go post it now, before I forget again.
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
13 May 11
I wonder if the parents will sue?? Whenever a child is harmed or injured, I have the same question as you. People say "you cannot watch them all the time" but the thing is...that's your job! You HAVE to watch them always. You do not leave little kids to do their own thing or assume they will be where you think they are. There are way too many occasions where children are harmed or even accidentally killed because no-one bothers to keep an eye on them or check where they are.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
13 May 11
You and I are pretty old school. If I am to watch them, I am going to watch them. I have not heard of any law suits. I believe the boy is out of the hospital now, too.
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
7 May 11
Oh wow, that is horrible, I hope the boy comes out of that experience not too traumatized..As one who was as assistant girl scout leader for 12 years, I can tell you that depending on the age, an adult can only supervise a certain amount or the trip would be off..For example, I think when the girls were little, 7-8 years old, each adult got 3, no more, so we'd ask a couple parents to help out...Then of course when they got older, say about 10-11, then all it took was the leader and myself with a group of 8-10 girls. I remember well, the constant inquires on special trips: "where is Amy or have you seen Bethany, etc..." I was more concerned though about a girl getting abducted than attacked by an animal, so I watched my girls pretty close..lol
@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
7 May 11
You see, I would worry about abductions. I worry in the local stores and I live in a small town. Kids are slippery. I think adults have to be on their toes. Believe it or not, that was something I was marked down on when working in a pre school. I always saw what was going on and jumped in to fix it if it was not going right.
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
12 May 11
I wonder how the kid is doing now since it's been five days or more since it happened. The poor kid!! I have to say that I agree with you, I'd like to hear more from the adult that was suppose to be watching him and the others. If it were my child, I'd be all over that persons @zz BIG TIME! They wouldn't be fit for another job that involves kids! I'd make sure of that!
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
13 May 11
The boy is out of the hospital, I believe. I also think it was not a paid person, but rather a parent volunteer that was with him and some others. I think I heard that there will be some changes in how field trips are allowed to be conducted, not sure.
• United States
7 May 11
Truthfully GG, I couldn't even imagine, whether it was one kid or 10 kids, letting them out of my sight for one second. They would be in front of me at all times so I could watch. This is just horrible. I hope the little fella is doing well they better start praying his nightmares will go away someday. Yes, it is a predatory act by the leopard and any of them would have done this..more so with babies around. I'm relieved she didn't get hold of his throat because this would have been the end for him. Yes, it will be interesting to see what happens to this person for being so careless and unreliable...I still can't believe "2" disappeared out of her sight.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
7 May 11
Even if nothing happens, I am sure that person will have many regrets, and may even lose friends over this. You do have to keep a close eye on kids.
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 May 11
I wonder about that too, although it is easy to criticize. When there is a large group of children, it is easy to get focused on a couple that are being noisy or unruly, and while that's happening, one could quickly go do something before being noticed. I also wonder about the fact that that exhibit is set up in such a way that the child and the leopard could have gotten that close to one another. Perhaps the fencing needs to be improved.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
9 May 11
I would have a hard time getting beyond the barriers this child went through, but he is seven and probably very skinny and agile. None of which describe me. On the news they say that the zoo is reviewing the barriers and other fencing options, but it is also reviewing the policy for field trips. I believe they have a limit on kids per adult, and that may change. I would feel so bad if I were the adult who let this little guy get away.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 May 11
Yeah, me too.
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@celticeagle (189874)
• Boise, Idaho
8 May 11
My first thought upon reading this was I bet the adults were all together chatting and such. There should be someone in the lead and someon in back to assure no kids wander off. I agree that this behavior is normal predatory behavior especially when a cub is involved. How horrible! Glad to hear the child is okay and that aren't going to put the leopard down because it was protecting its young.
@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
8 May 11
I do not know how they had configured their groups. When I went on these trips we would have our small groups and go off on our own. We would meet up at certain places at certain times. I have seen other groups where with little kids especially you have a long cord or rope and each child has a loop to hold on to. I have known people who would turn a field trip into an adult social activity so that is also a possibility. Someone else brought up the fact that they might have been on their cell. Others have said that kids just are fast and get away.
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@celticeagle (189874)
• Boise, Idaho
9 May 11
I think all you mention are good ideas. SOmeone in the back too. It isn't a social group and anyone who has been around kids knows they can wonder and someone needs to be infront and in back and watch for wonderers. The adults should there to watch the kids, not be on their cells or having a social event.
@marguicha (230350)
• Chile
7 May 11
There are several things to be said here. One is, of course, that there weren´t enough chaperones for the child. But everyone knows how children are: they are slippery when they want to do mischief. I also want to point out that that zoo is not safe enough. Zoos should be safe for children and for stupid grownups. Wild animals are VERY dangerous. An out fence that can be used to go over or under is not a barrier for a seven year old. When my children were that age, my husband and I took the girls to the zoo often, but they were supposed to accept that we took (grabbed in fact) their hands. If they tried to wiggle and push away, they´d get a smack on the butt. Those were the times when children learnt to behave.
@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
7 May 11
I took my children, and groups of their friends to zoos, and fairs and lots of other places. They behaved. They had to or face me. I hope and trust that they did well on school trips too. This out barrier cannot be gone under. I believe they thought it could not readily be crawled over as well, but leave it to a seven year old to figure it out. There is always a first time. I just do not understand with him having an adult and all the other adults around why this got so far.
@marguicha (230350)
• Chile
8 May 11
I still think that once in a while, the old hand on the butt punishment is wonderful. In the case of my children, I´d mostly say they should behave or else. They knew what this meant and they learned to behave. They also learned manners which is something I haven´t seen in children and youngsters in a long while.
@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
11 May 11
I did not hear about this on the news at all. I hope the child is ok and doesn't have to go through too much. I would be so furious. I would not want to be the adult that was responsible for watching them!!
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
13 May 11
I would feel so badly if I had been in charge of this little boy. I believe he is out of the hospital. I have not been home or watching news much lately.
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
7 May 11
While I am really sorry for this child and would want to know more about the supervision, the truth is accidents like this happen even when the kids are being watched appropriately. It can happen really fast. One minute the kids is here, the next there already in danger. It happened in a school trip. It could happen in a visit to the zoo with the parents. It could happen in a two by two line even. Going on school trips is a great learning experience, and as a rule, things go well and supervision is good. Still accidents happen and is something to keep in mind. WHen I go on a school trip I tend to favor a two by two line and a small group per adult. Yet, kids have a tendency to wander faster than we can figure they're missing. Your stop to explain something to the group making sure they're all listening, and little Phineas Bolton escapes from the circle under Marybet's legs and sticks his finger in the electric outlet. As a side note, and not necessarily having anything to do with this case, often, when it is suggested that a child doesn't seem to show the appropriate social skills for this or that school trip, the school ends up with a battle with irate parents that resent the fact that their precious one is being singled out and prevented from experiencing that particular trip subject. This could be just as well, if more an more schools didn't have to cater to numbers more than instruction. Principals have to try and please all and sometimes not the best decisions are taken, but loosing kids ( = numbers ) could lead the school to be closed or to loose some hard earned privileges. Strange world.
@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
7 May 11
I have been privy in the past to school politics. Schools now also must show the educational purpose of the field trips. I would not like the schools to stop going altogether. Maybe at this age (7) they need another kind of trip. I went with groups of pre school children, then also with groups of third grade students. I actually think the preschool kids behave better.
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
11 May 11
This is so sad. When I was a child all of the adults in a neighborhood watched over all of the children, but now society is different and there are more tragedies of this sort. I agree that it is not the leopard's fault.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
13 May 11
I am of the "neighborhood" personality. Actually all the kids in the neighborhood played at our house because the parents all knew they would be watched. My mom asked me to look after the kids one Saturday while she washed and hung clothes. Between the group playing with my brother in the back yard and the girls with my sister in front there were twenty kids in the yard. The boys and girls mostly did not play together because they tended to pick on each other.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
9 May 11
I'm glad this story didn't have a more tragic ending. The boy will be okay.. and the leopard will not be put down. Too often I hear such stories and the animal is put down.. but it's not the animals fault. She was protecting her babies. She doesn't understand that the boy meant no harm.. and if there had not been a fence, who knows what the boy could have done to a baby cub.. some humans are positively cruel. The animal had every right to protect herself and her baby. I agree the adults in charge of this boy ought to be questioned. If I were the child's parent I'd be outraged that his teacher's and chaperones allowed this to happen and I'd probably bring them to court myself.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
9 May 11
When I first heard this I was so scared for the leopard. It was not her fault. I just know that when at the zoo, parents or chaperones need to extraordinarily vigilant.
@bunnybon7 (50970)
• Holiday, Florida
7 May 11
omg. my kids never went any where like that without me. i went when it was a feild trp to the zoo. heard way to much about people getting mauled by wild animals. i bet those parents are regretting not going. i also bet they sue someone over this.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
7 May 11
I could not always go with my kids, but they followed rules well. We will see who gets sued.
@cynthiann (18612)
• Jamaica
7 May 11
I just hate to read things like this as it is only the stupidity of others that allowed this to happen. when I took kids on Day Trips we made sure that the adults knew which kids they were in charge of as well as keeping a general eye put of the others. Many years ago (about 30) I took my students to the beach. They were very poor and had never seen the sea. well, some had - but many hadn't. They were older children - 12 plus. It was such a big thing for them and we cooked and brought the food along with us plus drinks. Many of them went into the water and could not swim. What a nightmare. so three teachers were in the water on shifts to watch the children. Oh, they had such a good time and all went well because we were vigilant. That poor child. totally unnecessary injuries.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
7 May 11
How kind of you to provide this new experience for those kids. Yes, water is dangerous and like many other things it demands vigilance. I sure hope things come out okay from this.