Have you ever worked at a job where they were looking for an excuse to fire you?

@TheHorse (206066)
Walnut Creek, California
May 26, 2016 10:42am CST
I've only worked a few jobs in my life. Once I get hired, I tend to stay on. But in one case, I was in a position where they were looking for an excuse to fire me. It was actually when I worked as a child psychologist at a mother-and-child drug rehab program in Oakland CA. I had blown the whistle on some stuff that was happening there, and was protected in the short-term by the fact that the law prohibits the firing of whistle blowers. I lasted something like 13 years there after I busted them, but was eventually "laid off," even though I'd been there longer than anyone else. In addition to being a whistle blower, I could tell I was resented for my educational level, and for how effective I was. The place was run mostly by ex-drug addicts and ex-cons, so it was not easy to discuss my educational philosophies with the powers that be. To keep my job over those years, I had to be extra careful about what I said and did. But I really enjoyed what I was doing, so I stuck it out. Have you ever been in that kind of position? Did you find it stressful?
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@JustBhem (70555)
• Davao, Philippines
27 May 16
Too bad. Company should save their employees who served them very long. Not to the extent to make excuses of firing good employees.
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 May 16
Sometimes decisions are based on factors other than quality of work. Race, gender, and level of education are still relevant in the US, thought they shouldn't be.
@JustBhem (70555)
• Davao, Philippines
27 May 16
@TheHorse same here in our country, if you dont have a degree or a graduate of any course you cannot apply to any job you want. Very high standards I guess.
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@JustBhem (70555)
• Davao, Philippines
27 May 16
@TheHorse so that means they prefer undergrads or no education at all? How long did you work for them?
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@Ceerios (4698)
• Goodfellow, Texas
26 May 16
@TheHorse - I gave the big boss a fine reason to fire me. I was 14 years old and on a really nice summer job in a silk screen display-printing place. I broke up laughing at one of the bosses one time, folling on the floor, laughing at him for being such a total dunce. the other boss, the biggie, told me, :When you get done laughing, come see me in the office." It was adios time for me.
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@vandana7 (98870)
• India
27 May 16
@TheHorse ..Possibly the boss was yelled at by his wife.
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@Ceerios (4698)
• Goodfellow, Texas
27 May 16
@TheHorse -Tell you what I will do to answer that question - I will put up a post about it because it was kinda involved, but it was plenty enough to set off the amusement of a 14-year-old kid - me. There were two shop owners. The one who did the funny stuff and the other one who was the guy who fired me. As soon as my daily () meds are done and my #1 cup of coffee is ready, I will get to posting.
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 May 16
What did he do to induce the laughter?
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• United States
20 Jan 17
sort of.i've had two jobs in the past where i came in and i wasn't on the schedule at all. and didn't get an answer about it,so it wasn't an omission.they just didn't have the kanakas to tell me i was fired..
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• United States
23 Jan 17
@TheHorse i just went and got another job..not necessarily better,but it was a job..
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
20 Jan 17
Did it turn out for the best?
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Jan 17
@scarlet_woman A job is better than no job. After I left the corrupt place, I got a new job to fill the void pretty quickly.
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@koopharper (7477)
• Canada
26 May 16
Been down this road before myself. Multiple times actually. I was hired for several jobs where shortly after arriving I found out that I was a second choice while the company continued negotiating with the person they wanted in the position in the first place. When I'm being interviewed for a position now I'm on the look out for that type of situation. You can't win. No matter how well you do the job the axe will fall. I've only survived that type of situation once but it was in a different post. After being transferred it was discovered that everything I was being blamed for was outside of my control. Moving me out didn't change anything. I was lucky to be very versatile in the shop or I would have been canned.
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 May 16
Oh, interesting situation. That seems unethical to keep negotiating with the other person after you've been hired.
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• Canada
26 May 16
@TheHorse It's very unethical. Not a nice situation to be in. One place I worked was cycling employees through until the big boss's son came of age. One after another we'd get called into the office just before reaching three months and let go. I watched it happen to the victim ahead of me and knew that my turn was coming. Sure enough I got called in and let go. I blew the whistle on him because he was using a government program to hire through. I didn't find out what was really going on until almost a decade later. He got into trouble when he fired the man hired after me. The labour board was watching him because of my heads up. The guy who followed lasted for almost a year and then was replaced by the boss's son.
• United States
26 May 16
@TheHorse I was once told by a principal that I was their first choice. I had the best experience, recommendations and they liked me best. But, he told me with a smile on his face, they found a native speaker. OOPS. Discrimination based on place of national origin is illegal, even if the place is LA, CA, USA. I didn't get the job, and did not complain. I figured they were jerks, and I didn't want to work for people without ethics.
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@OKennedy (1130)
• United States
27 May 16
These days keeping a job is stressful enough making sure that you don't give them a reason to let you go and when you work in a hostile work environment it makes it even more harder and stressful. I don't think I would have lasted as long as you did. I can't say that I have ever had it that hard working anywhere.
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
28 May 16
I tend to be pretty patient, so I was able to let some nasty stuff roll off my back. But it wasn't always fun.
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
31 May 16
@OKennedy Patience certainly helps in a situation like that. It was made easier by the fact that it was a non-profit, so I wasn't making oodles of money for someone else by staying focused on the goal (helping disadvantaged kids) and more or less ignoring all of the BS (when I could).
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@OKennedy (1130)
• United States
31 May 16
@TheHorse i can imagine and its not for everyone some people just have the patience of a saint
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@miniam (9154)
• Bern, Switzerland
27 May 16
Right now, im like walking on broken glass at my workplace, it`s not because of what l do,it`s because the boss is like waking up and thinking who he can fire that day. Im grateful everyday l don't get a termination letter.He`s been with us 14 months, in that time,we have 26 terminations and about 10 who resigned.
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
29 May 16
What business are you in? It doesn't sound like his ways are good for worker morale.
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
29 May 16
@miniam I hope you are looking for something else.
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@miniam (9154)
• Bern, Switzerland
29 May 16
@TheHorse Work in a private business,really suck.And knowing it will not be easy for me to find a job,l feel trapped but at the same time,expecting termination every day.
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@allknowing (130064)
• India
29 May 16
No. This has not happened to me but no one likes smart people around and may be they tolerated me because I was not smart
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@allknowing (130064)
• India
29 May 16
@TheHorse You do not hide it here either
@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
29 May 16
Hmm. I try to hide it, but sometimes I slip.
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@Lolaze (5093)
• St. Louis, Missouri
27 May 16
Oh yes, my last real job with a company! I'd gotten hired when a lady already employed there had wanted her friend to be hired for the spot I got, she immediately began bad mouthing me to supervisors so they started looking for reasons to fire me. I was told I'd be working with families in crisis, turns out the job was nothing but a glorified babysitter job and since I couldn't get my direct boss to give me a list of my job responsibilities, they got rid of me after my probationary period saying I didn't fulfill the role of my job.
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
29 May 16
Sorry to hear. We had something similar happen at the mega-corrupt place. My "cool" original boss (the lady who hired me) actually quit because they overruled her recommendation (based on an interview) and hired an unqualified person to work with the kids. He happened to be the boyfriend of one of the "clique" members in mid-management.
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@Lolaze (5093)
• St. Louis, Missouri
29 May 16
@TheHorse I hate work cliques!
• United States
28 May 16
I see it happen in my last job , my boss wanted to get rid of a few people but he was careful doing it.
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• United States
2 Jun 16
@TheHorse my boss had a lawyer, and the lawyer advised how to get rid of employees, simply saying there service was no longer needed. Not giving any reason as to why, nothing they could do. He would wait until the end of they shift and hand them their final check. No, he was not sued, someone did try and say they never had lunch breaks and had to work over a lot of the time., he tried to get witness for this and people did get a subponea, to go to the labor board. My boss always won. During reduced hours, when we could collect unemployment, we were denied, when he received the unemployment form, he worded it by saying there is work, but none right now. so people would get denied.
@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
29 May 16
In what ways were they careful? Were they able to avoid getting sued?
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• United States
27 May 16
I never worked at a job where I thought they wanted to fire me but I did have a few jobs when I wish they would
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• United States
28 May 16
@TheHorse ultimately I didn't stay long at those few jobs
@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
28 May 16
Heh heh. If I really hated a job, I don't think I'd stay on very long.
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@teamfreak16 (43421)
• Denver, Colorado
26 May 16
Because I was young, I had an attitude. I worked at Showbiz Pizza. They tried to make me quit, so I lost the attitude and did every crappy thing they made me do. But they never fired me.
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 May 16
Sometimes saying "Yes, Sir" and Yes, Ma'am," is the prudent thing to do.
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 May 16
@teamfreak16 I don't like doing it to someone I "sympathy hired." But sometimes it's necessary.
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@teamfreak16 (43421)
• Denver, Colorado
27 May 16
@TheHorse - I do it all the time now. Respect is free.
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@thelme55 (76484)
• Germany
27 May 16
Gladfully not. My bosses in every job I took tried to keep me and some were even sad when I left my jobs.
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
28 May 16
Glad you haven't experienced this kind of thing. Have you worked mostly in Germany?
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@thelme55 (76484)
• Germany
28 May 16
@TheHorse yes, I worked mostly in Germany. I have the same experience too when I quit my job in the spa in Ireland. We were all sad but I had to go back to Germany due to my health. The weather in Ireland made me sick.
• Nairobi, Kenya
27 May 16
Great one that is what integrity can do, it cannever allow a wrong thing happen. I have been in such a situation though as a volunteer where I and my fellows could get into a war every now and then that they wanted to do sth.wrong, funny enough is that there was non to hundles such issuess because leaders to were involved. So I had to stay focursed untill they ended their office tearm is I raised integrity issues with the support of the new office
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 May 16
Sometimes you do just have to "wait it out."
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• Nairobi, Kenya
27 May 16
• Nairobi, Kenya
27 May 16
@TheHorse sure, they sometimes tend to be in powerful positions
27 May 16
I havent got any job yet. Just helping my fathers
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
28 May 16
Hope he treats you well!
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28 May 16
@TheHorse yeah exactly
@dodo19 (47095)
• Beaconsfield, Quebec
26 May 16
I can't say as I've been that position. I hope I never do.
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@dodo19 (47095)
• Beaconsfield, Quebec
27 May 16
@TheHorse I'll certainly keep it in mind.
@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 May 16
It was not comfortable. But if you keep your eye on the goal (good service for clients), you can do well under adverse circumstances.
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@celticeagle (159221)
• Boise, Idaho
26 May 16
Stressful? Oh, ya. I was working at a answering service nights. They had a taxi service there as well. The gal that worked the taxi board most of the time would sleep most of the night. When a call came in I teletyped it over to her. I would try knocking on the window to wake her up because she was in a room away from me with just the window between us, most times this just pissed her off. I had my own responsibilities and night work I had to do so I couldn't always watch to be sure she did her job. One morning I was called into the boss' office and called on the carpet for not teletyping the taxi info over to the gal. Ugh! I think she had reported me thinking I would her and she wanted to get me first. I explained my side and they let it go for awhile. But, I felt like the gal and the boss where out to get me. All my work began to be scrutinized like it never had been before. Looking for something and some reason to fire me. I finally just found another job and quit. It was a trying time for me. Hated working nights anyway.
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@celticeagle (159221)
• Boise, Idaho
28 May 16
@TheHorse ...This was just sort of a bizarre situation It seemed like because she had been there longer they believed her over me. It was their taxi service on the line. If they had really done some detective work they would have seen there was a time difference between the time I got a call and sent it to her and when she actually got on and dispatched a taxi.
@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
28 May 16
Yeah, your comment had a familiar ring. I often had to do parts of others' jobs because they couldn't do it. But the same people I helped would go after me sometimes.
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@vandana7 (98870)
• India
27 May 16
When I joined my second job, primary intention was to get a home loan for which I was not entitled to in the first job. Here, I found folks who were not able to save even for down payment, for whatever be their social reasons. So a bit of jealousy was there at that point. I joined as a document writer, and did some accounts as well apart from programming. But the work load was randomly spaced. I took up the systems there which were terrible and I'd because of my previous experience learned how to organize. But the worst came when finances were not moving. Salaries were being delayed way too long so I took over home loans department...did a decent job and soon salaries came in time...additional loans came on to me, those too we could manage, they'd not realized the potential because they always thought of assets in white terms. I forced them to mention the real estate at its actual value white as well as black and got them to seek valuations. Somewhere along the way clients began preferring to interact with me, and that became a sore point with some of the staff members. Some politics when I was out negotiating loans were there. I finally left the organization for another which was even worse. But I had other reasons to ground myself and so I did.
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@vandana7 (98870)
• India
29 May 16
@TheHorse ..Yeah...I realized that after I left the job. They used two different employees to do my job. But I had pretty much streamlined things by then. I did bring it on myself so I can't blame them entirely. Instead of remaining idle and indifferent to the work, I went into systems and then into loans and customer service. But I think customer service hit me the most. The person doing that job did not really like the clients talking to me. I could not help it when client's preferred to discuss home loan requirements with me and therefore, everything with me. It did not go down too well.
@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
29 May 16
I don't like being the "most competent person there" because then too much winds up falling on your shoulders. That happened to me in my department when I taught at a small college in Iowa.
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• United States
26 May 16
The last job that I had, this was their quest. I too blew the whistle, more than once. But the final straw for them was when I filed for Workman's Comp. They had hired contractors to reroof the school, and they made me sick. I waited until two weeks after I hit the date which made me a permanent teacher, then filed the papers. They called me into the office and tried to let me go. Sorry, I'm tenured, and have fabulous evaluations. I have done nothing wrong, and you missed the deadline. After my attorney spoke to theirs, they shut up. But this was not the last time they tried to fire me. As an experienced teacher, I was expensive. They worked hard at making expensive teachers miserable so they would retire early. I retired at 64, which was two years before my planned date, but it cost them $$$.
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
28 May 16
I'm glad the College where I teach hasn't hassled me. I've been there a long time, and I have a fancy degree, so I'm a tad expensive, but I generally only teach one or two classes per semester.
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• United States
28 May 16
@TheHorse Then you are lucky. But it might be different at the college level, don't know. In K-12, forcing experienced people out is a new blood sport.
@just4him (306690)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
26 May 16
My last job was high stress and I wanted out, but they couldn't fire me because my work was excellent, and I wouldn't just leave. However, they finally found their loophole and not only fired me but everyone I worked with on a particular team. We were all gone. I hope they found better positions, but I don't know that.
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 May 16
The excellence of my work is probably what kept me on so long. But they were playing "Ten Little Indians" with our best and mostly highly educated staffers, so I knew my time was coming.
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@just4him (306690)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
26 May 16
@TheHorse I had worked on the International team. Our call handle time was higher for that. When they sent the International overseas, we were once again in a very tight call handle time and as a result everyone on the International team got the boot. I think I was next to last to be fired.
@Lucky15 (37346)
• Philippines
27 May 16
I wanted to have someone be under surveillance, it is a relative. But one have told me, i can not.do that for he is a relative. The same reason why i want him.to be clean or clean his act..because he is a relative
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@TheHorse (206066)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 May 16
Is he still struggling?
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@Lucky15 (37346)
• Philippines
27 May 16
@TheHorse financially..yes
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