Have you ever been given a bum steer?

@JudyEv (382019)
Rockingham, Australia
April 5, 2017 5:50pm CST
Following my post about two South Korean girls being told that a phrase containing the 'F' word was acceptable in social circles, Anna (@LadyDuck) commented that she always checked when her French friends taught her a new colloquialism. In my reply, I asked if she'd ever been given a 'bum steer'. This in itself sounds pretty colloquial so off I went to Google. The phrase means to give wrong or misleading information. It may be intentional but not necessarily so. Such information may result in someone acting in a manner they'd rather not. Wikipedia says the term is mostly used in Australia and New Zealand which is why I thought it worth doing a post on it. The site suggests the term comes from 19th century American maritime humour. When manoeuvring a ship in port, instructions would be shouted from the wharf to the wheelhouse often through intermediaries who could be any one of several nationalities. The stern of a ship is not pointed like the front and so difficult to steer if trying to reverse hence a bum steer. Are myLotters familiar with the term or is it really an Aussie/NZ thing?
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@BelleStarr (61463)
• United States
7 Apr 17
It is a very common phrase in America and in use today.
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@BelleStarr (61463)
• United States
7 Apr 17
@JudyEv I just always assumed it as a cattle term since we call bulls steers. Not any stranger than many others I guess lol now didgeridoo that is a strange word
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 17
@BelleStarr Didgeridoo is a strange word. I like Gabbyquoiquoi which is the aboriginal name of a creek we crossed in our travels.
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 17
It is a strange term though isn't it?
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• United States
6 Apr 17
It is used here, I would not consider it belonging to any particular country!
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• United States
6 Apr 17
@JudyEv Are you saying I"m old......()
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 17
@AbbyGreenhill I was thinking more that your parents told you about it!!! (Did I manage to get myself out of that one? )
@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Apr 17
So again, there is a mix of who has heard it and who hasn't. Maybe it's only the oldies who know it.
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@marguicha (230351)
• Chile
6 Apr 17
I had never heard of it, of course. But my first "australian" word was that of the Dingo dogs. One of my best friends“ children married an australian girl. He called her "my Dinguita" The "ita" is a spanish endearing diminutive.
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Apr 17
How cute is that. Have you learnt some more Australian since?
@valmnz (17095)
• New Zealand
9 Apr 17
Definitely used here in New Zealand Judy, perhaps not so much these days. I found it fascinating to learn more about the expression.
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
10 Apr 17
It isn't so common here any more either.
@LadyDuck (502391)
• Italy
6 Apr 17
I never heard this phrase, but I have never visited Australia and New Zealand. May be in some US states they are familiar with it.
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@LadyDuck (502391)
• Italy
6 Apr 17
@JudyEv I have never hear of it.
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Apr 17
A couple of our American friends have heard of it but others haven't.
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@Inlemay (17712)
• South Africa
6 Apr 17
ha ha ha love the phrase. YES I have been bum steered a few times but as I get older and wiser, it happens less
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Apr 17
Some of us get older and wiser. I'm still pretty gullible at times.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Apr 17
This term was in fairly common use here many moons ago, but I have not heard it for a very long while. I find the image appropriate for the phrase.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Apr 17
@JudyEv Nonsense, I bet that you have a vast collection.
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Apr 17
I don't have too many choices of photos when it come to bums.
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Apr 17
@Asylum You may be surprised to know that I don't ...... but I'm working on it!
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@minx267 (15526)
• Hartford, Connecticut
6 Apr 17
I've heard of it before.. And I am in the US. I didn't realize it didn't originate here.. so that is news to me.. and regarding ships. very interesting!
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Apr 17
Wikipedia isn't always right but that's what it says on this.
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@minx267 (15526)
• Hartford, Connecticut
6 Apr 17
@JudyEv It is very interesting and the thing about ships sounds like it makes sense!
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Apr 17
@minx267 Yes, it sounds a logical explanation.
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• Pamplona, Spain
6 Apr 17
Not familiar with that expression. I know lots of other ones but not that one. When I learned Spanish I did not have anywhere to check so I had to use my own discretion and find out what I was really saying. I learned pretty quick.
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• Pamplona, Spain
7 Apr 17
@JudyEv No you don“t. But I did laugh but I did learn pretty quick as I was living here on a permanent basis and it was not like I was on Holiday and I might get away with saying things like that without knowing.
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 17
Some mistakes you don't want to make twice, do you?
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 17
@lovinangelsinstead21 You wouldn't want to give people the wrong impression if you had to live amongst them.
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@DaddyEvil (174371)
• United States
10 Apr 17
The phrase is used here, Judy. More when I was a kid than now, though. I have no idea where it came from... LOL! Your explanation is as good as any, I'm sure.
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@DaddyEvil (174371)
• United States
11 Apr 17
@JudyEv Judy, I didn't mean it that way. (I honestly wasn't feeling very well this morning so didn't want to try to find a better explanation than the one you gave.) I decided, since I bummed you out a bit to do the research after all. I hope this helps, hon. Check out this link. It is the best I was able to find in the twenty minutes or thereabouts that I looked. Please forgive me.
phrases, sayings, idioms and expressions at The Phrase Finder | Search | Discussion Forum Home| Posted by Robert Smith on November 22, 2000 In Reply to: Bum steer posted by ESC on June 14, 2000 My mom hails from Kansas (Dodge City area) and they were using
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Apr 17
@DaddyEvil It was good of you to go to that trouble. I wasn't upset at all but I didn't research it very well either.
@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
10 Apr 17
The explanation does seem a bit suss I guess.
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@HazySue (39265)
• Gouverneur, New York
6 Apr 17
I think it is a common saying here. I've heard it used before.
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Apr 17
It seems some have and some haven't. It would be a strange one to come across for the first time, wouldn't it?
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 17
@HazySue And their bums!
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@HazySue (39265)
• Gouverneur, New York
7 Apr 17
@JudyEv it would be strange. If I had never heard it before I would think it had something to do with cattle.
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@ridingbet (66854)
• Philippines
7 Apr 17
no, i am not familiar with that phrase, but that F word, i think is already normally spoken even in movies.
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 17
The F word gets lots of exposure unfortunately.
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
9 Apr 17
@ridingbet I think it is unbecoming too. The head of a country should be above such things really.
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@ridingbet (66854)
• Philippines
8 Apr 17
@JudyEv yes i agree. why, even the president of our country curses with the Filipino word of the letter F, and i believe that is unbecoming of a head of a country.
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@Kandae11 (57233)
6 Apr 17
It is new to me.
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Apr 17
If you've never heard it before, it would be seen as a very strange thing to say.
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@Kandae11 (57233)
6 Apr 17
@JudyEv True.
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@manasamanu (3797)
• Bangalore, India
6 Apr 17
This is the first time I am hearing this word.
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Apr 17
I guess every country has their own collection of idioms and jargon.
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• Bangalore, India
6 Apr 17
@JudyEv Yeah may be you are right.
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@Jessicalynnt (50523)
• Centralia, Missouri
6 Apr 17
I'd never heard that slang before myself
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 17
It seems it's not particularly common.
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@1creekgirl (44560)
• United States
6 Apr 17
I've heard of this in America, but never thought much about it.
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Apr 17
So obviously it's not entirely unknown.
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@PainsOnSlate (21845)
• Canada
8 Apr 17
I have heard that phrase all my life, it was part of my family's phrases. I have not heard about the ship that was difficult to steer, but that makes a lot of sense. My dad's family were all maritime people...
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
9 Apr 17
It's not used much here now but I used to hear it all the time.
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@BellaDoc (762)
• San Diego, California
11 Apr 17
It's an Aussie expression through and through!
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Apr 17
It must sound incomprehensible to an ESL person. When you think about it - bum steer - very strange indeed.
@Daljinder (23193)
• Bangalore, India
6 Apr 17
No, I haven't heard that one before. I learned a new phrase today Thank you
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 17
You're welcome. I'm always learning new stuff here. :)
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@Ronrybs (21499)
• London, England
7 Apr 17
I have heard it, but not for a long time. The last time was in some old movie, I think
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@JudyEv (382019)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 17
It would be a bit perplexing coming across it for the first time perhaps.