All my thoughts are for UK this morning

It is interesting that you made this association : these terrorists are playing with collective indignation to get a maximum media coverage, and it is probably (I have not read this news) collective indignation that killed these supposed child traffickers.

@allknowing It is disturbing to think that a fake social media message can kill. I hope that the authors will be caught and judged.

I had a feeling of discouragement when I heard it on the morning news. Despite of the good job done by the police in UK like in France, preventing a lot of attacks, it is impossible to block any of these mad kamikazes.

@topffer This is not something that police can prevent, there are too many possibilities for those mad kamikazes and nobody can guess where they want to attack.

@LadyDuck Very true. It would have been hard to guess that they could have targeted a public of kids and teens.

Oh, no, it is the worst attack since Nice in my mind, as this one has chosen to target kids and teens.

Yes, it is not the kind of news that I like to hear when I wake up. We live in a sick world.

This world is not going very well.

@topffer That's so sad to see it is not safe all over the world.

Time difference. You are right, I am pessimistic about the future : the police does a good job, but they cannot stop everything. Only in France 15 attempts failed since the beginning of this year... but an attack succeeded. It is inevitable and discouraging somewhere.

A few years ago I was thinking that religious wars were definitely something of the past. Not yet.

It looks like a fatality. I heard that we had 15 failed attempts since the beginning of the year in France. It makes me pessimistic about the future.

@topffer that is very scary to think there is a constant effort made to BOMB people in free and peaceful countries

@topffer well thats what they THINK - we know better!!

Quite all radical Muslims are identified and controlled in countries like UK or France, but we cannot arrest them before they attempt something. The police does a great job, but it would be illusory to believe that they can uncover everything. We have 0.2% of Muslims who are radical in France, and they expect that these attacks will create a global repression against Muslims to convert all of them to radicalism and start a civil war (we have 10% of Muslims). We have to be careful and not fall into this trap.

To speak openly, as I know that I can do it with you, I think that there is a long time that we have all wrong. We know that all terrorists are wahabbists, and we know that their main support is in wahabbist countries, i.e. Saudi Arabia and the Emirates. But we need their oil and we want them to invest in our countries, so we close our eyes, we let them fund mosques where new terrorists are recruited, and in France we are even giving them tax discounts to invest here. And as wahabbists are natural enemies with shiites, to please his Saudian "allies" Trump is now quite ready to start a war against Iran, which would be the most efficient ally against ISIS and Muslim terrorism in Middle East. The Russians are the only neat ones in this war, but they do not need the oil and money. of the Gulf countries like we do... I am pessimistic.

@topffer I agree with all that you say. I am a very angry man at the moment and am looking for something to DO...but have found nothing apart from joining right wing racist groups and that isn't going to happen. Probably the only thing I can actually do is donate some money to any fund set up for victims...even then I'm wary as a lot of these funds make a % profit from donations. I'd describe my feelings now as angry and impotent and I don't like it.

I'd like to get in my car right now with a few friends and find some isis supporters and give them a beating...but I don't know who they are or where they are. Could be on the street next to me or 200 miles away. I'm so mad that kids and families going to a concert were blown up and there is absolutely nothing I can do to help.

It is certainly better to not watch this kind of news if you are paranoid. Are you really or are you joking ?

@topffer I am serious. I get nervous too even watching horror films so I avoid them also. I see them in my dream when I sleep. So I oftentimes watch comedy shows, read finance/money/cryptocurrencies/trading so when I sleep my dreams are all about money and funny things too.

I hope so but I am pessimistic about that.

@TheInvisibleMan Since the beginning of this year, there were 15 failed attempts and 1 attack in France, 13 failed attempts and 2 attacks (with this one) in UK. Even if the police does a very good job, it is difficult to be optimistic.

@topffer Don't be. God is with you all.

For the moment the best to do is to support the victims and their families.

I feel the same way. I have been hurt by this news this morning, and I wanted to be supportive for the Brits,

I don't know if it has been confirmed that it was a Muslim terrorist or not ? Muslim terrorists are capitalizing on collective indignation to have the largest possible media coverage, and they know that they will have it if they target a place like a concert or a soccer match : going to see a match or a concert is a sin for these guys, and they have no scruples to kill children.Yes, they are evil, seen from our eyes.

@topffer Two have been detained over here today and its possible that they are involved in what happened yesterday also. They are from another Country not far from here as well. I always find peace in Great Britain and Wales and France and here also but things here are quite agitated at the moment its a political thing as usual but I don´t get involved rather seek the solace and the peace that everyone needs at times like this. Cannot describe it any other way how I feel. I am reading a Poem a great Irishman from my hometown has written and says it all. Tears that won´t stop..... You have family in Lancashire as well as Stratford on Avon? Did not know that.

@lovinangelsinstead21 Not anymore : I had a great aunt who married an UK Navy sailor after WW2, and they were living in Blackpool when I was a kid/teen, so I spent several holidays there. Their great children are living now 1 in Torquay, and the other one in Guernsey, and they don't even speak French.

I have visited Manchester in the past ; it was on my way to Lancashire when my English family was living in Blackpool. No country can be safe. Most of these terrorists are national,not foreigners. It was the case for the Westminster attack like for most of the terrorists involved in attacks in France. I would not be surprised if this one was also from UK.

I heard it only when I woke up, and I had a feeling of discouragement. Manchester is a city that I have visited long ago and where I transited several times. I don't want to use qualifying adjectives, just to be supportive for the victims and to people living in UK.

It is the first time that they are targeting kids and teens. Plain wrong.