What is the point of any life?
By emptychair
@innertalks (23743)
Australia
September 5, 2017 12:45am CST
Death depresses me, and thinking about death leads me to the above question.
What is the point of any life?
Naturalness is not so natural.
Obedience obeys connaturally.
The nature of nature is nature.
We must obey it to be natural.
Love is naturally alive in you.
You are naturally alive within love.
Be that love. Let it come alive in you.
Live with love, and love to live.
What is the point of any life, in its just living and dying?
My Dad has died already. My mum will die soon enough. My dog has died, and I will die one day too.
What then is the point of any of this?
All life revolves around infinite love, which is always existing.
Life comes and goes inside of this love changing love by its being within love.
Love changes by life because life enthuses its loving periods into love, and love experiences itself more alive so to speak then.
Is life for love, or is love for life then?
Neither.
Love is, you are.
Death never really ever reaches either, though it tries to do so.
My Dad is still alive in many ways, just as much as he was, and yet he is now back lost within love more than within life.
The same goes for my dog.
Life moves into love, and the love that was in that life is remembered by other life, which increases the love in that life, which inherits itself into love again, later too.
Life is borrowed from love.
Love is not borrowed from life, but life lives within love, and life remains connected still to love, if and whenever you allow it to do so.
12 people like this
12 responses
@TiarasOceanView (70020)
• United States
5 Sep 17
Though it is very depressing, we are only here for a short time.
So lets make the most of what we got.
6 people like this
@TiarasOceanView (70020)
• United States
5 Sep 17
@innertalks What this if you like Steve..this little boys last words were just that..it is a very moving story..not very long a video, but you see him saying his last words to everyone..Make the most of what you´ve got.
www.facebook.com/loomtothemoon Skye had been battling an aggressive brain tumour for a year. He asked me if he could leave his 'fans' one final message which...
2 people like this
@innertalks (23743)
• Australia
5 Sep 17
@TiarasOceanView Yes, it wasn't long. Quite moving. I am way behind the times though, I had to look up what looming was.
@innertalks (23743)
• Australia
5 Sep 17
Making the most of it, or striving to do so, can help us to be lifted out of our depression too. Thinking that we are achieving something beneficially useful to ourselves and others can help us move on through life in a more motivated way I think.
3 people like this
@innertalks (23743)
• Australia
5 Sep 17
That's true, and yet I still want to know also if there is a purpose after Earth, (after our life here).
Has my Dad's purpose benefitted the Earth then, by his living, even if he, like me, never fulfilled his "real' purpose, or lived up to his full potential?
Is a partially wasted life still purposefully useful in some ways to Life and to the Earth then?
If there is no ultimate purpose after this life spent on the Earth, to me it demeans, and takes something away from my enjoying its "greatness", as it is.
Is life great, or does it more grate, on me because so much about life remains to me a great unknowable mystery?
5 people like this
@jstory07 (148764)
• Roseburg, Oregon
5 Sep 17
@innertalks Everything is a mystery.
5 people like this
@innertalks (23743)
• Australia
5 Sep 17
@Shiva49 Ha Ha. How can uncertainty be certainty?
But I know what you mean.
Love is always the only certainty. All else is uncertainty, and this is why when we are not yet perfected within that love, we will still feel uncertain at times, and so think that uncertainty leads us to certainty in some ways too. All paths lead to love and to its certainty of perfection.
We should never give up on love.
3 people like this
@innertalks (23743)
• Australia
6 Sep 17
Yes, there are such moments, and I guess we should try to savour them more often than we do.
Some of these are so simple that we overlook them when all we see are life's problems.
It is spring now here, and our orchids are looking great. Check out this picture. We put this one on the kitchen bench in our kitchen.
4 people like this
@vandana7 (102698)
• India
5 Sep 17
Beautiful thoughts...:)
Point of life as I see is...
a) move towards a society that does not do harm to humans as well as nature...effectively lives harmoniously. That would be the perfect stage.
b) Help god to create perfect human beings...by rejecting to do what could mar that perfection.
4 people like this
@innertalks (23743)
• Australia
5 Sep 17
Thanks vanny. I like your two points.
When we are not harming anything we are loving everything, in a peaceful way, I think.
Yes, we are here to work on those aspects currently marring that perfection, that is possible for each one of us to achieve, even as Jesus Christ told us in the Christian bible to be perfect, or to strive for it.
"Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." Mathew chapter 5, verse 48.
3 people like this
@Behindtheguitarbar (2831)
• Guangdong, China
5 Sep 17
curiosity on the world is the point of life, at least for me right now.
4 people like this
@innertalks (23743)
• Australia
5 Sep 17
@Behindtheguitarbar I suppose we are responsible for where our curiosity takes us and for what it unearths for us too, and yet, I think that our curiosity is linked to our imagination, and so it can take us to places that we can only dream of in that way.
"Logic will get you from A to B, imagination will take you everywhere." Albert Einstein
2 people like this
@innertalks (23743)
• Australia
5 Sep 17
Yes, curiosity is a great thing.
It's like a carrot that can pull us through life, when our chips are down. We keep going because we are curious about the outcome, and about how things will end up, or turn out for us, and for the world too.
3 people like this
@Behindtheguitarbar (2831)
• Guangdong, China
5 Sep 17
@innertalks yes. Curiosity keeps me digging. Digging out the bearable and unbearable, but no matter the bearable or the unbearable, I have to accept what I dug out.
4 people like this
@innertalks (23743)
• Australia
5 Sep 17
Yes, let's hope that is true, but a little more reassurance right now about that would certainly be helpful to some of us doubters.
But then I could also take the question to another level too.
What is the point of God?
2 people like this
@innertalks (23743)
• Australia
6 Sep 17
@NoorNoor Yes, thanks. I often think that we might be being tested here too.
Did God create the world to test us, and if so what for, what results from this testing does God want, or what does God want to achieve by this testing?
Love never tests anything itself, but those brushing up against its energy are tested, if they do not respond perfectly to it, because the God given freedom of movement in each part of creation allows that part to either fit into love, or become a misfit, and try to make it on their own way, by them not being the part that God created them to be.
When we become something else then, God tests us so that we will see the results,(or have the chance to see them) of these tests ourselves, and so hopefully we will then change our ways to again become the fitted in part to God's world that God created us to be, and to function in it as, for him.
2 people like this
@NoorNoor (2131)
• India
5 Sep 17
@innertalks we had a brain.God tells us to use it through his book .He gave us million things to believe.If doubters die with their doubts they will deserve what they did.
The point of God is he can do whatever he wants.So He created this world to test us.
3 people like this
@m_audrey6788 (58468)
• Germany
5 Sep 17
I also questioned myself like that..What is the point of living? but everytime I think about the answer it only leads to another question "What is the purpose of being alive?" So, I think each one of us just need to learn appreciating the things around us now because these things are all TEMPORARY and we can`t bring it anywhere when we DIE 
2 people like this
@m_audrey6788 (58468)
• Germany
6 Sep 17
@innertalks ..Somehow you`re correct but I think, You can make things right whatever your father did in the past that was wrong..I`m sure he was sorry but too late for him and not for you 
2 people like this
@m_audrey6788 (58468)
• Germany
6 Sep 17
@innertalks ..Happy to know that! Wish you all the best and more happiness to come your way! Have a nice day!
2 people like this
@innertalks (23743)
• Australia
6 Sep 17
@m_audrey6788 That's very true.
I being still alive can certainly try to help to clear up any misconceptions others might have about my father's life, and I can learn from his mistakes too, and I can endeavour to live more wisely because I had him for a father, and tried to learn what I can from his life, and its connections to me.
2 people like this
@innertalks (23743)
• Australia
7 Sep 17
Thanks very much for your appreciative comment.
1 person likes this
@jaiho2009 (39140)
• Philippines
5 Sep 17
Once you will come to know the purpose of your existence then, all your doubts, worries,fears and questions will be answered.
3 people like this
@jaiho2009 (39140)
• Philippines
5 Sep 17
@innertalks
Have you ever tried searching your purpose in life?
Once you feel that feeling of fullfilment / satisfaction in something/anything you do ,that is one reason of your existence.
The problem with us (human) is, we have so many "why's" in life and find no satisfaction in either small or big achievement/s that we have.
Oftentimes, we neglect to appreciate the good things and focus only in our failures, that is why we overlooked what completes our existence in this world.
3 people like this
@jaiho2009 (39140)
• Philippines
5 Sep 17
@innertalks I am not a preacher nor I am good enough to preach.
But, on my own understanding and belief , God created us from His form, therefore God created us perfect (not to mention our physical appearances).
And yes, we are perfected by love because God is love.
God has given us our freewill , to choose -but HE never fails to guide us.
And this freewill is a gift from God for us to know our purpose in this life.
Perhaps your understanding about love and spreading love through writing is the purpose of your existence (if that is so, then, that is one great purpose).
Even the Bible says that, all the riches and earthly powers will someday come to an end, but LOVE goes on forever, for the greatest is LOVE.
2 people like this
@innertalks (23743)
• Australia
5 Sep 17
@jaiho2009 That's very well put. Yes, I have too many "why's" too.
If we all have a purpose, what is mine?
I have asked myself this question many times over my lifetime, so far.
Do we need to pursue this purpose, or more place it out there, and concentrate on the things that we can do now, that are preventing us from achieving our purpose?
Some of us know our purpose, but something in our subconscious programmed mind is perhaps preventing us from achieving it, or even working towards it, right now.
I think that each soul's purpose comes inbuilt within them, uniquely so, and they work on an aspect of this overall goal in every life time that they live. We are all becoming perfected in love but in different ways so that our own gift or part of God can work optimally for others, for ourselves, and for God too.
Purpose always works within that greater purpose to be a real purpose.
Each lifetime's purpose works towards the overall greater purpose of our soul
My own purpose for this current life time is for me to work towards my better understanding of love, through my writing about it.
@velvet53 (24417)
• Palisade, Colorado
6 Sep 17
Living is our gift as is love. Without life and love we are nothing. A person can find themselves if they want to. Just like they can find love if they want to. To want to leave all of this is not the way to do it. Explore, open your eyes and see what is there for you. God put us here for a reason and I for one want to find out why I am here. In the meantime I plan on enjoying my life.
3 people like this
@velvet53 (24417)
• Palisade, Colorado
6 Sep 17
@innertalks That does make sense. I know people that is fighting with depression and I wish that I could help them. Sometimes elderly people just give up because they feel they have been here long enough or they have already lost their spouse.
2 people like this
@velvet53 (24417)
• Palisade, Colorado
7 Sep 17
@innertalks I am very sorry to hear that. She must have been pretty tough to stay in the home and keep going. It is so sad what happened to her.
2 people like this
@innertalks (23743)
• Australia
7 Sep 17
@velvet53 Yes, my mum has lost her husband of 60 years two years ago too, but she always keeps going, and remains cheerful, with her smiling face, whenever I see her.
2 people like this
@Belligerentkj (145)
• United States
6 Sep 17
"…the greatest wisdom is to make the enjoyment of the present the supreme object of life; because that is the only reality, all else being merely the play of thought. On the other hand, such a course might just as well be called the greatest folly: for that which in the next moment exists no more, and vanishes utterly, like a dream, can never be worth a serious effort." Arthur Schopenhauer
The answer that you are looking for will never be found outwardly. The answers of others are of little value to you because their perception of life's values are obscure to you. Think if you will of you and a random stranger looking at a painting; the painting is of a controversial image. As the two of you begin to talk about the painting a heated argument ensues. The image you see is delightful, however the stranger is vastly upset and appalled by the image. Our perception/interpretation is vastly different than that of others. Our morals and ethics are a form of learned behavior. Thus our beliefs are bound by our limited knowledge. We have but to ask ourselves one question. WHY? Do not be deceived into believing that you could ever fully answer this question fully as this question is never ending. Think of a young child as the child ask the parent or stranger a question. The parent or stranger replies only to be asked by the child WHY. The parent or stranger answers only to be asked by the child again Why. This banter continues. The answer that you are looking for can only be found in the choices that you make from one day to the next. As you are constantly living in a state of the five Ws and one H.
If you would like to learn about perception/interpretation all you have to do is think back to a childhood game known as Telephone. If you are not familiar with the game then it goes as follows. The first person writes a statement on a peace of paper, then folds the paper up and whispers what they wrote on the paper to another person, that person whispers in another persons ear what they heard and so on until the last person is told. Then the last person writes on a peace of paper what they heard. The two statements are then compared. The statements are never the same. As it is with our lives. We have to find purpose in ourselves before we can ever find purpose in our lives.
"What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."
"How is one to live a moral and compassionate existence when one is fully aware of the blood, the horror inherent in life, when one finds darkness not only in one's culture but within oneself? If there is a stage at which an individual life becomes truly adult, it must be when one grasps the irony in its unfolding and accepts responsibility for a life lived in the midst of such paradox. One must live in the middle of contradiction, because if all contradiction were eliminated at once life would collapse. There are simply no answers to some of the great pressing questions. You continue to live them out, making your life a worthy expression of leaning into the light.”
@innertalks (23743)
• Australia
6 Sep 17
Thanks for your detailed response to my discussion here.
I also think that the answers cannot be all found outwardly, although I do think they can be hinted at there, as the outer reflects the inner in a lot of ways too.
The ultimate good is not the ultimate good to everyone else, because all see it from differing angles, and yet on some levels the ultimate good can be said to be God, as he is created to be that pinnacle of Goodness.
Love sees good in all though and respects all without seeing any faults because, in the moment, all is perfect as it is, and the questions never exist in the moment of now, but as afterthoughts dragging you always further away from the answers that sit right in front of you, right now, in the now, because they are always there, and they can never disappear ever at all.
2 people like this
@Shiva49 (28390)
• Singapore
5 Sep 17
Living the moments that are not repeated gives me fulfilment and purpose.
Do my best and accept the result that are not within our control and that lends variety and also the thrill that comes with uncertainty.
We do what we can as we are given a chance to participate and that by itself gives inspiration. Leave the rest to our creator - siva
3 people like this
@innertalks (23743)
• Australia
5 Sep 17
Yes, if we always try to do our best, we are travelling along the pathways of love.
God will always help us here to do the rest, as you say, and he will add all that is needed in our lives, for us to live our purpose for him, for ourselves, and for the benefit of all others too, I think.
2 people like this
@innertalks (23743)
• Australia
6 Sep 17
@Shiva49 We have it all and then want to rob more from others too. Yes, if we live from love, that approach will not rob others, but like you said hopefully rub off onto them as well.
2 people like this
@Shiva49 (28390)
• Singapore
6 Sep 17
@innertalks Agreed Steve, God will guide us along and nature is the inspiration but then collectively we just seem to blow our chances repeatedly with many for our betterment spurned.
Individually we should press on and hopefully that approach will rub on others too - siva
2 people like this
