You Cannot Fix It

@GardenGerty (169477)
United States
January 27, 2019 9:00am CST
As my lunch simmers in the crockpot, and I watch the birds feasting outside, I ponder an article I just read online. It was in my suggestions on my home page. The premise of the article is that all these experts who tell us that eating dinner at home and home cooked meals will cure all of our health and social problems are completely out of touch. They are out of touch because they do not know how real people live. They do not know how low income people have to eat to stretch their dollars. How exhausted parents have to take short cuts to just get something on the table. How sometimes schedules keep people from sitting down when the meal is done. I grew up that way. Food was never abundant, and often it was not fresh veggies and fruit but canned goods. To add to that my mother did not like dried beans, or pasta. Both of those can really stretch your money. Oh, yeah, mom had to deal with a house full of picky eaters. She did what she could. We always had a vegetable and a fruit. I learned to fill my empty belly with bread and gravy or bread and butter. I think that is why I am obsessed by good food now. I was impressed when she was older and on her own that she still considered herself worth making a meal for. That was important for her own well being. So this article says that low income families are lucky to afford the food that they can get. They cannot afford to experiment too much, because if the dish they try is inedible or ruined or the family just will not eat it it takes a lot out of the budget. There are ways to eat healthy and cheaply, but it is not usually like the ladies' magazines and cooking shows tell us. It is important to look at the nutrition value of what we bring home to cook. I do not necessarily agree with the premise of this article. You have to search for the best nutrition options. However, if you are having to work long hours just to pay the bills you may feel you do not have the energy. In that case you just buy what you always do, and cook it the same as you always have. We have started picking up commodities when the Senior Center has a disbursement. My sister does the same in her town. They give us some nice food. Lots of varieties of dried beans. Also dried fruits. My sister gives me stuff she thinks she will not use. I get to spend my money for meat and for frozen fruits and veggies. I am old, retired, and have no children here, so there are not so many taste buds to please. I do not know if we can fix the problem of people being hungry, even when they have a job. We can share, if we have food. We can set a good example. We can garden and we can try not to waste. I think those are my best solutions to food insecurity.
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@DianneN (254926)
• United States
27 Jan 19
The one thing my parents believed in when I was growing up was good food on the table and a full belly. My mother was an awful cook, but she tried her best. Both my parents grew up in hard times. Their philosophy was a roof over your head, food on the table, and clothes on your back. Oh, and an education.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
Mom grew up on a small farm/ranch. I know dad was a city boy and his mom gardened. I do not know as many details of his childhood.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
@DianneN Yes, that had a real impact.
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@DianneN (254926)
• United States
28 Jan 19
@GardenGerty My father grew up in the depression and never let us forget that. It changed how he viewed life.
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@wolfgirl569 (135762)
• Marion, Ohio
27 Jan 19
We grow a lot of our food but that does take time and space. Space is the problem that many people have for that.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
That, and knowledge. In urban settings if there is empty space it is often contaminated by chemicals.
@popciclecold (40214)
• United States
28 Jan 19
You are so right, we ate beans, rice and cornbread. It's easy to talk if you don't have to live it.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
Beans, rice and cornbread sure stretch your budget. One of our "desperation meals" when I was young was pancakes. Mom hated them, it made her feel so poor. Me, I love pancakes and would eat them more often but they are not really good for my blood sugar. You also stretched meals by making gravy to serve on bread, potatoes or rice.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
29 Jan 19
@popciclecold Actually we were healthier then.
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• United States
28 Jan 19
@GardenGerty I well, remember those days, at least we learned how to survive.
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@LadyDuck (502487)
• Italy
27 Jan 19
Honestly, this article makes no sense, because if people have no money to make a decent meal at home, how could they afford to buy ready made food that is better for less?
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
Some people suggest that "meal subscription services" are the answer. I do not agree. I do not know if your country has that kind of an offering. You get food for so many meals shipped to you in dry ice and you have recipes and the prep is done. Some say it is cheaper than the store, but I do not agree. With the meal subscription you do not have leftovers to stretch the budget.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
@LadyDuck I have read comments from people on Swag Bucks who have signed up for trials of these and they complain that often it is not the amount of food it said it is, or things are left out. At one time in my other town there was a family owned business that prepped really interesting foods in bulk and packaged them in reheatable packages. You ordered a month's worth of interesting meals for a price. One of my adult disabled clients did this subscription instead of shopping and it helped her get her weight under control, while giving her tastes of other cuisines. It was good for her.
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@LadyDuck (502487)
• Italy
28 Jan 19
@GardenGerty Here there is not this service, it existed in the south of France. The meals were a lot more expensive than cooking at home and not at all good.
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@Happy2BeMe (99353)
• Canada
27 Jan 19
We didn't have much growing up but we always had good on the table. Mom and Dad grew their own vegetables and my grandparent had a farm so there was always meat to go around. My dad was also a fisherman so we had plenty of fish, lobster and other seafood.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
Dad was a city boy, and I believe my mom had Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or Fibro. Either way, she worked really hard when I was young on having a garden, etc. but did not, or could not, by the time I was a teen. You grew up much like my mom's parents lived.They were inland, but had stocked ponds for fishing, and had poultry, beef, and hogs. Deer, rabbit and squirrel were on the menu. The closest thing they ate to pasta was dumplings.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
@Happy2BeMe I can live without pasta easily. About twice a year I make a huge lasagna and package it and freeze it. It is the only pasta my hubby eats and I make it way different than the recipes. Noodles are big in my part of the country. Home made noodles especially.
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@Happy2BeMe (99353)
• Canada
28 Jan 19
@GardenGerty We never had pasta growing up. I don't think I ever had pasta until I moved out on my own.
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@hillhjill (23761)
• United States
27 Jan 19
We didn't have a lot of money when I was growing up, but I swer my mom could make something out of thin air. And it's very sad that we still can't really afford food because of bills etc..I live off a fixed income and by the end of the month my husband and I don't have anything to eat. So yes I agree..share food and I'm doing a garden this year.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
In our town they do not ask for income proof for commodities, but we did not draw them when we could work. I have not used a food bank, but I know plenty of people who do. We would have qualified for commodities when I was young, but dad was embarrassed to ask or something. He did get commodities when he left for a trip as a Boy Scout leader for mom and I guess my younger sister and I. My brother was on the trip.There are programs all over the US where you can buy a monthly share and get a lot of food. It all depends on where you live as to what it is called.
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@Courtlynn (67089)
• United States
28 Jan 19
I'm sorry to hear that, and can also relate to it.
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@hillhjill (23761)
• United States
28 Jan 19
@GardenGerty we have this one place in town that will give you a bad like a Walmart bag of food and I'm very thankful for it but it's not enough to feed you for even a few days.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
27 Jan 19
I don't know the solution either. I will say for some of the people I know, eating fast food is their solution - they say it's cheaper than making it at home and tastes better . Out here there is an abundance of fast food places and people fall into that way of eating so easily . My one friend says their family doesn't eat "real food" because they don't like it - "real food" meaning fresh vegetables and home cooked meals - so she doesn't cook at all.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
That is sad, but I have seen it a lot. We fell into that trap a lot. I kept track one year of what we spent, and we both were ashamed when I extrapolated that out to the number of years we have been married. For me the pleasure of eating out is not the food but the fact of it all being ready and we sit down together and someone else clears and puts food away and washes the dishes. However the cost in health and financially is horrendous.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
29 Jan 19
@much2say I wish we had used the money from the last twenty years more wisely. That being said, sometime before or after Valentine's Day we will go to a historical restaurant about an hour from here. Probably that same day we will go shop at Russel Stover's for candy. LOL
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
28 Jan 19
@GardenGerty I know - eating out is certainly convenient, but it doesn't help the wallet - and its often not the healthiest - even if were from a fancy schmancy restaurant. There are value meals and such at fast food places but we all know it's definitely not the healthiest choice either. A lot of times the convenience makes it all worth it until we realize down the road that the choices inconveniences us in the long run.
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@Hate2Iron (15724)
• Canada
11 Feb 19
Mom couldn't cook when she first got married... but she was pretty young. She learned over the years and turned out to be a pretty good cook... She always made meal time fun!!
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
12 Feb 19
As soon as I got married I began to experiment with new types of foods. It was nice, it was fun and I think I am a good, economical cook now.
@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Jan 19
Habits of a lifetime are hard to change too. Sometimes articles are very glib and it seems the authors have no idea of the real world. And then you get recipes asking for twice filtered extra virgin olive oil or other ingredients that you could only source in the very exclusive food stores. And that would cost you a packet.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
That was part of the point of this article. Poor people or even middle class cannot find or afford some of these exotic or unusual foods.They cannot really afford to spend their time or money on food their family will not eat. So they do not try brussel sprouts or artichokes, for fear it will go to waste.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
@JudyEv Yes, it is, unless the one on one time might be "helping dad in the garage" and such. I remember my dad having me help him bleed the brakes on his truck--I was eight years old or so. I also got to experiment with tools when he worked in the garage. He fixed up an old cast off easel for me too so I could paint and such while he tinkered.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Jan 19
@GardenGerty Exactly. My brother-in-law was once told he needed to spend more one-on-one time with one of his sons. The wife was a bit hopeless and they had seven children! Pretty hard to allocate more time to one.
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@paigea (36143)
• Canada
27 Jan 19
I remember when my kids were young there were always articles with frugal recipes and tips on how to stretch a grocery budget. I got some good ideas. I am working hard not to waste food.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
I bought a book when I was young that was titled something like How to Save Money on Almost Everything. It had some good budget recipes in it as well. Now that we eat out less I can pay better attention to what is here and either freeze it or use it while it is still fresh. I hate it when I let something go bad.
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@paigea (36143)
• Canada
28 Jan 19
@GardenGerty Me too. That is my resolution, to not waste food. Since we both shop and both do the cooking, sometimes we lose track of the leftovers in the fridge. So, I am trying to pay better attention to that. There is a great PSA commercial here right now, showing strawberries being picked, packaged, shipped to the grocery store, into the cart, home to the fridge then gradually deteriorating until they get tossed unused into the trash. It really hit home with me. It is not just my money being wasted, but all that effort.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
@paigea Yes. We have tons of food waste commercials right now. All that effort takes its toll on the environment as well. I agree that when we both bring in the goods it is hard to keep track.
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@Hannihar (130150)
• Israel
28 Jan 19
@GardenGerty Restaurants could help by instead of throwing out left over food they can donate it to homeless shelters or feed people that need it.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
Yes, they could. Grocery stores will freeze short dated meat and that is given out at food banks and so are some of their other foods. Restaurants tend to not do so for fear someone will get sick from not storing it right and then blaming them. They could give it away. At one time some of the fast food burger places would donate already cooked burgers to animal shelters.
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@Hannihar (130150)
• Israel
28 Jan 19
@GardenGerty I am with you totally on that.
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@spiderdust (14756)
• San Jose, California
27 Jan 19
Do you have a link to that article? I'd like to read it. I can relate to this right now. When our household unexpectedly grew last year, I had to make a few economic (both time and money) shortcuts. More pasta and rice showed up on the table, despite some blood sugar issues. More canned cream soups showed up, because I didn't always have time to make everything from scratch. I still try very hard to make sure everyone gets fresh fruit and vegetables on a regular basis and rarely buy snack foods (except for pretzels and corn tortilla chips), but sometimes that means that I buy a 5 lb bag of carrots and have one of the older kids peel and cut them all up into carrot sticks. I do notice changes in our health due to the starchy meals, and it's not for the better. I'm trying to rely on those less, but it's much harder to stretch my food budget dollars these days.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
If it shows back up on my home page I will grab that link. Even with blood sugar issues different people react differently to the starches. For me, my diabetes fares better with a microwaved potato rather than pasta or rice. Barley is a good substitute that is supposed to be good for diabetics. I like it, hubby does not. Corn tortilla chips and salsa works for me, pretzels do not. I know you have your hands full. It is also harder to find time for exercise with little ones although that is also helpful to stabilize blood sugar. As your baby gets older you will go back to some of the healthier options. You have the know how to avoid being in those traps forever.
@Courage7 (19626)
• United States
27 Jan 19
This is an absolutely excellent writing here Heather. I concur with all you have said whole heartedly. My Mother was an amazing woman RIP who kept us fed all the years when Dad left all on her own while walking the roads to work doing menial jobs lowly jobs.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
I think some of the people of her generation had a knack for things. I also know some people would forage. If the skills are not passed down or carried on, we lose a lot of goodness.
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@DianeBorg (791)
• Malta
27 Jan 19
When you eat home cooked food, you know what is in the food, at least partially, but you will know how it is cooked. If you have grown your own food that is even better.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
Yes, and you can season it to taste.
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• Malta
28 Jan 19
@GardenGerty That's right.
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@Tampa_girl7 (54715)
• United States
27 Jan 19
I remember when my grandma was alive she got commodities. I'm not sure how one goes about getting them or if the program even exists here anymore.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
I believe it is a federal program, often administered by the County Council on Aging.It is not just for older people though, often families qualify as well. Some places, like here, they do not ask for proof of income. Food through commodities is often healthier than food at food banks, and it may be alloted by counties. Some places it is once a month, some it is every other month. In December when Bob went down to pick it up they also had everyone take extra things that had accumulated. It is things grown in the US and the program is supposed to help support American agriculture.
@Courtlynn (67089)
• United States
28 Jan 19
No matter what income my mom had, she always made sure we had food on the table. Whether be home cooked or fast food. And I'll love her forever + for that.
@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
My mom was in ill health, but she and dad got us a variety of foods. Sometimes the portions were small. I did a lot of the weekday evening cooking when I was a teen and she cooked on the weekends. Dad and I would have breakfast together and coffee.
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@GardenGerty (169477)
• United States
28 Jan 19
@Courtlynn I look back and often think I was a daddy's girl.
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@Courtlynn (67089)
• United States
28 Jan 19
@GardenGerty sorry to hear that. thats nice you were able to help out. And enjoy time with your dad.
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