My humble advice Never think myLot is a place where you learn good English

Those who are weak in English and who want to learn it here, blindly assume Native speakers are good in the language. The sad part is this category will not even know who writes good English and who does not

@LadyDuck I have noticed that.

@allknowing Exactly, they risk to learn a bad broken English, many people here also use "American slang".

Conversation in broken English (lol)

@allknowing It’s okay as long as we understand each other. Not all here are native english speaker, just like you.

@JustBhem I have had a solid background and so I do not make those spelling or grammar mistakes Having said that those who are weak in English will not even know who writes well and who does not and that is the sad part.

@allknowing I do not intend on writing perfect English tenses here since I am not a native English writer here. What is important for me in here is that I can convey my ideas to many as much as possible.

@rsa101 Good English is like music that has no false notes. Why not if you are able to?

There are many here who write well but those who wish to learn will not know to pick 'wheat from chaf'

@allknowing yea i know.i'm just sayin'.

The purpose of this discussion is to alert those who want to improve their English that this is not the place.

I am not talking of understanding but those ho want to improve their English, this is not the place.

@allknowing yes, they need extra class, as you said many are available in youtube channel noawadays

What myLot expects is just interaction no matter how bad the English is and so I do not know what you mean when you say you learn communication skills here.

@ilocosboy myLot does not expect but in your own interest you should attempt to write correctly

Easy, just like grade 1 pupil ABC because he/she is almost everyday in school. Of course mylot not expecting good English from us as stated in the guidelines.

@allknowing Some native speakers aren't good at grammar or spelling

Moral of the story. Never learn from native speakers

I am more concerned about those wanting to learn blindly following those who they think are great

@allknowing I can relate to that. I think this book is useful for those people who wanted to step up.

This is just to alert those who want to learn good English. myLot is not the place as they will not be able to distinguish what is right and what is wrong.

@allknowing Yes understood as those who are native English speakers often use incorrect terms.

I could write an endless list. The sad part is those who want to learn the language think native speakers are the best to depend on (lol)

@MALUSE Native speakers start learning phonetically and there lies the fault

@allknowing If that were the case, nobody would need lessons at school in their native language. Once, a German pupil I taught in English wrote 'I', the first person personal pronoun with a small letter, namely 'i'. I gave him a full mistake. (We also have half mistakes for simple typos). He started arguing with me. He told me that he had seen that very often written by native speakers of English and what was on the net was certainly more correct than what I had to said. I said if you are convinced that what native speakers write is always correct, we can put a German test of yours on the net. There are certainly many people who want to learn German. They will be grateful for an original text by a German native from which they can learn how to write correctly. Surely, you never make spelling mistakes and your grammar is also correct. Hmmm. He opened his mouth and shut it again. 1:0 for me!

Not every native speaker. Having said that how is one. who is new to the language, to know what is right and what is wrong. ?

There are great places on the Net where you can pick up good English

That is the way to go

@allknowing thanks

myLot I know allows it but it is in your own interest that you should strive to produce correct grammar and spelling. There are places where this is not tolerated.

@cperry2 If you are careless here you will be careless there as well. Practice makes it perfect.

@allknowing Yes, like my job as a book reviewer. Things have to be letter perfect. Commas have to be where they are supposed to be, and goodness don't use then in the place of than or the other way around.

But it should not be blindly believed that by virtue of being a native speaker they are infallible

Specially the American slangs

No matter how intelligent a person is how can thy cull out bad English since they do not know the language?